Found Deceased NEW ZEALAND - Grace Millane, 22, British backpacker, Auckland, 1 Dec 2018 *Arrest*

[CoverMeCagney]

Has the comment gone now? I can't see it

Yes, it's gone.
Did we ascertain if it was posted at 9:29pm NW time (ie 12 minutes before the last "sighting")?

 

[smucklecrumble]

Is the man being named in the DM the same person that is being referred to as JS on here? He has different initials so not the same person?

Are the posters saying that the DM posts untrue stories in the UK? I really don't find that, they get news early by having lots of sources I believe but don't make stuff up IME

I read in the article that he chooses to go by his first and middle name on social media and is estranged from his father. The name they published is the one listed on the court docs and apparently his legal name. MOO

 

[smucklecrumble]

Comment is now gone but it also had the upside down smiley emoji next to it which I found odd. It’s usually used when you’re teasing someone

 

[asyousay]

The laws really need updating as obviously with the Internet it means he can’t be named in New Zealand but the rest of the world he can be.

So what’s the point of the gag when people in New Zealand can simple go on google?

An immediate appeal meant he still cannot be publicly identified in New Zealand but the restrictions do not apply to international media

 

[suzyjackson]

This just came over the news

Main Stream Media
10th Dec 2018
The Guardian
Full article and video of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's apology:
‘Your daughter should have been safe here’: NZ's apology to family of Grace Millane

This isn't sitting right with me, does the NZ PM apologise to all parents of murdered children or only those from overseas, any and all murders are abhorent wherever the victim comes from.

My thoughts are will all parents who have suffered this unimaginable horror

 

[suzyjackson]

Comment is now gone but it also had the upside down smiley emoji next to it which I found odd. It’s usually used when you’re teasing someone

I don't know what the emoji means but there is a screenshot in the DM story for anyone who hasn't seen it

 

[Alyce]

Yes, it's gone.
Did we ascertain if it was posted at 9:29pm NW time (ie 12 minutes before the last "sighting")?

FB always shows posts in the time zone of the person viewing them - so yes, your calcs were correct, our 8.29am ( UK ) viewing, was 9.29pm NZ time

 

[jamjim]

I did find the use of the 'upside down' smile emoji a bit odd. Myself and my friends only tend to use it in a 'teasing' way or when we're being a bit sarcastic about something. It's difficult to say though as everyone interprets smilies differently. I have to say, I saw his comment a few days ago and found it very unsettling. Especially as it seems as though it was posted very close to the time she was last seen.

He wasn't friends with her on Facebook, so he would have had to have searched for her profile to find her picture to comment on it. If they were just about to meet or were already together, why did he feel the need to comment on her picture?

 

[asyousay]

That emoji is sarcasm/teasing as far as I am aware so if this is after he had killed her he is saying it ironically.

 

[smucklecrumble]

Found this meaning for it....

Silly, goofy, sarcasm, joking.

Upside-Down Face Emoji

Doesn’t really fit with the rest of the comment, and is even more unsettling knowing it was made after she was last seen and right before she died.

 

[asyousay]

Found this meaning for it....

Silly, goofy, sarcasm, joking.

Upside-Down Face Emoji

Doesn’t really fit with the rest of the comment, and is even more unsettling knowing it was made after she was last seen and right before she died.

Well he had murdered or was about to murder her so it’s just him being a sick F***

 

[suzyjackson]

I did find the use of the 'upside down' smile emoji a bit odd. Myself and my friends only tend to use it in a 'teasing' way or when we're being a bit sarcastic about something. It's difficult to say though as everyone interprets smilies differently. I have to say, I saw his comment a few days ago and found it very unsettling. Especially as it seems as though it was posted very close to the time she was last seen.

He wasn't friends with her on Facebook, so he would have had to have searched for her profile to find her picture to comment on it. If they were just about to meet or were already together, why did he feel the need to comment on her picture?

If they were together at the time they might have been looking at each others SM accounts, I can see 2 young people getting to know each other doing that, joking and making comments on each other's profiles, I don't necessarily see anything sinister in that, it's the sort of thing my teenagers would do. You'd have to be quite twisted to do that if you were about to do anything sinister and also a bit stupid as it draws attention to you, as can be seen from the earlier comment on this thread

 

[libramoon175]

Well he had murdered or was about to murder her so it’s just him being a sick F***

Reminds me of Georgia Williams. She was dying after being strangled and he texted her parents saying 'got to go, battery's dying too'.

 

[gregjrichards]

Is it true he is only facing 14 years in jail for murder and could be out by his early 40s taking into account the time for a trial and conviction?

If true it’s shocking as I doubt he can be rehabilitated.

 

[asyousay]

Reminds me of Georgia Williams. She was dying after being strangled and he texted her parents saying 'got to go, battery's dying too'.

Wow - some people are just so sick and twisted it’s beyind words.

 

[Cardgame]

If they were together at the time they might have been looking at each others SM accounts, I can see 2 young people getting to know each other doing that, joking and making comments on each other's profiles, I don't necessarily see anything sinister in that, it's the sort of thing my teenagers would do. You'd have to be quite twisted to do that if you were about to do anything sinister and also a bit stupid as it draws attention to you, as can be seen from the earlier comment on this thread

IF he's guilty, then he IS 'quite twisted' so IMO the FB comment is not an indication that this 'wasn't premeditated'. I do think it may have been done in order to make it look like it wasn't premeditated, or even as a deliberate 'clue' as to his own identity.

If the timeline is correct then Grace was caught on CCTV arriving at the hotel at 9.41pm, apparently 'with a male companion', presumably the POI?

So if the FB timing is accurate, and our time gap calculation is accurate, then wouldn't they have been in transit from the casino at 9.29pm? Seems even stranger if that's the case.

 

[fergie7]

IF he's guilty, then he IS 'quite twisted' so IMO the FB comment is not an indication that this 'wasn't premeditated'. I do think it may have been done in order to make it look like it wasn't premeditated, or even as a deliberate 'clue' as to his own identity.

If the timeline is correct then Grace was caught on CCTV arriving at the hotel at 9.41pm, apparently 'with a male companion', presumably the POI?

So if the FB timing is accurate, and our time gap calculation is accurate, then wouldn't they have been in transit from the casino at 9.29pm? Seems even stranger if that's the case.

I think the casino is only 5 minutes walk from the hotel so could have been just before they left. Very strange anyway imo!

 

[gregjrichards]

Wow - some people are just so sick and twisted it’s beyind words.

It fits what his Grandmother says about him that he is a “strange one”.

 

[Tortoise]

The laws really need updating as obviously with the Internet it means he can’t be named in New Zealand but the rest of the world he can be.

So what’s the point of the gag when people in New Zealand can simple go on google?

What is the source of the quote in your post please?

 

[suzyjackson]

What is the source of the quote in your post please?

I'm not sure which quote you mean, sorry