NFL star, Ray Rice, cut by Ravens well after knocking his future wife unconscious

[eileenhawkeye]

I think I may have misunderstood this statement. Are you saying he didn't graduate from High school?

He didn't graduate from college. College football players have the option to leave after their 3rd year/junior year to enter the NFL draft. Some chose to do this, if they are predicted to be a high draft pick, because of the possibility, if they do stay another year (and graduate), they could be injured, and their future career in the NFL will never happen.

 

[grammieto5]

WOW! This kid has an impressive athletic record. Maybe he could play Basketball if he can't play football anymore. I knew if I kept digging I would find out if Ray Rice graduated from high school, he did graduate with a 3.7 GPA. I hope he gets help, he is way to young for his only way to make an income to be over. I can just imagine what it's like right now for his wife And I do feel very sad for their child!!!

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm wondering what she thought as she watched the video...or did she not view it at all?


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[grammieto5]

Yeah, she must have seen it by now, unless they have kept the TV's off in their home. It's on all the channels, especially the sports channels. I really hope they are protecting their child from seeing/hearing all of this. That little girl is also the victim


Especially the way he treated her after he knocked her out. He is supposed to love this woman???? Like the poster up thread wrote, that's more disturbing.

 

[oh_gal]

As a survivor of domestic abuse, the wife's response of how the "media" is ruining her life really irks me. The "media" didn't knock her out; he did. Let's put the responsibility where it should be, shall we?

 

[nrdsb4]

In this particular case they were engaged in mutual assault as soon as they returned each others aggression. When that happened there ceased to be victims, only perpetrators. As it happened she came out the worse for it. That fact does not excuse her own actions. Blame for the outcome of their mutual assault rests on both parties equally.

Totally disagree that there is equal culpability here.

 

[rob]

The wife is upset over all this media coverage and she married him the day after it happened. She was also arrested that nite. What all happened? was it a free for all? We did see a small clip of what happened, but there had to be more.
I'm not excusing him, no man should hit a woman for any reason. Nor should any woman hit a man.

Now my thoughts on the NFL. Since when does an employer get involved in this stuff. We've had it happen at my work place (not actually at the job, but one of our employees), and unless you're arrested and miss work because of it, no repercussions on the job. Sometimes we want to interfere where its not warranted. I assume he got the pre-trial intervention, like others acused of the same crime. Can you take that back? Again, I'm not excusing him. He should have to face the same punishment that any other citizen faces. But, don't people get second chances? Especially if the victim has given him one. He has worked hard to get where he is, and now him and his family will be punished by losing his income, possibly forever.
I'm sure I'm going to get jumped on for stating this opinion, but I keep going over it in my head, and I'm not sure he is being treated liked everyone else.

 

[nrdsb4]

Now my thoughts on the NFL. Since when does an employer get involved in this stuff. We've had it happen at my work place (not actually at the job, but one of our employees), and unless you're arrested and miss work because of it, no repercussions on the job. Sometimes we want to interfere where its not warranted. I assume he got the pre-trial intervention, like others acused of the same crime. Can you take that back? Again, I'm not excusing him. He should have to face the same punishment that any other citizen faces. But, don't people get second chances? Especially if the victim has given him one. He has worked hard to get where he is, and now him and his family will be punished by losing his income, possibly forever.
I'm sure I'm going to get jumped on for stating this opinion, but I keep going over it in my head, and I'm not sure he is being treated liked everyone else.

In my profession, you can lose your license to practice for something of this nature. Many people who go to nursing school with something like this on their record find that they cannot get permission to take their board exams. Anyone who has a career dependent upon a licensing board is subject to background checks. Findings of previous arrests and convictions can absolutely lead to revocation of a license (and your ability to ever work again in that capacity); the fact that the actions occurred outside of the work place has zero relevance.

 

[rob]

In my profession, you can lose your license to practice for something of this nature. Many people who go to nursing school with something like this on their record find that they cannot get permission to take their board exams. Anyone who has a career dependent upon a licensing board is subject to background checks. Findings of previous arrests and convictions can absolutely lead to revocation of a license (and your ability to ever work again in that capacity); the fact that the actions occurred outside of the work place has zero relevance.

Thanks for that info. But, I can tell you, as a federal employee, as long as you don't lie about it on your application, it's no problem. (ironic, huh?) If you get arrested, but get out in time to report to work, or you don't have to serve time, you're ok. Even when whatever you did is common knowledge.
I am not licensed to do my job, but neither is a pro athlete.
Now if you kill someone or rob a bank, it may be different, but so far, we haven't had that happen.

 

[Intermezzo]

My ? is when did TMZ get the video. I would imagine it was paid for. I would like to know how long tmz had it before they released it. jmo

I had that ?? as well in my mind...that video was hotel/casino security camera footage and not just any employee would have access to it
I agree..TMZ paid someone for it...though I don't think they, TMZ, would have held on to it very long before releasing it.

 

[Intermezzo]

She doesn't have to want to pursue charges for prosecutor to bring the case.
Especially with the video.
It's amazing Ray Rice got such a sweet deal when the video exists showing him punching his fiancée out.

This deal has now ignited a debate in regards to the first time offender program that kept the case from going to trial.
The Prosecution in this case is now defending their decision to put Rice into that program.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/ray...e-over-first-time-offender-programs-1.1084363

Ray Rice case ignites legal debate over first-time offender programs

“Mr. Rice received the same treatment by the criminal justice system in Atlantic County that any first-time offender has, in similar circumstances,” said Jay McKeen, a spokesman for the Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office. “That decision was correct.”

NFL superstar Ray Rice was enrolled in the same program that lets thousands of defendants each year avoid prosecution in cases from assault to theft and helps lighten busy court calendars in New Jersey while permitting first-time offenders a clean slate.

 

[Intermezzo]

In my profession, you can lose your license to practice for something of this nature. Many people who go to nursing school with something like this on their record find that they cannot get permission to take their board exams. Anyone who has a career dependent upon a licensing board is subject to background checks. Findings of previous arrests and convictions can absolutely lead to revocation of a license (and your ability to ever work again in that capacity); the fact that the actions occurred outside of the work place has zero relevance.

Agreed.

 

[nrdsb4]

Thanks for that info. But, I can tell you, as a federal employee, as long as you don't lie about it on your application, it's no problem. (ironic, huh?) If you get arrested, but get out in time to report to work, or you don't have to serve time, you're ok. Even when whatever you did is common knowledge.
I am not licensed to do my job, but neither is a pro athlete.
Now if you kill someone or rob a bank, it may be different, but so far, we haven't had that happen.

That very well may be where you work; I couldn't speak to that.

Since when does an employer get involved in this stuff.

All the time! You do realize that there are MANY people who answer honestly "yes" to the questions about past arrests/convictions who are NOT hired, don't you? You understand that there are many employers who do not want to hire someone with domestic violence convictions on their record (or any convictions of any kind), in spite of the fact that these events took place in the applicant's free time, right?

I think the NFL knows their image has suffered greatly in recent times, and whether or not we agree with how and when and why they decide to act in various instances, they are trying to clean up their act. Does it seem arbitrary, inconsistent, and often times lamely enforced? Yes, it certainly does. But they are within their legal rights to demand that their players not break the law in order to stay employed in the league. In fact, there may be language in the contracts signed which give them the right to suspend a player for actions which take place off the field.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

AP Source: Official sent Rice tape to NFL months ago

NFL: 'We have no knowledge of this'

Published On: 21 m Updated 4 m

A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, The Associated Press reported on Wednesday.

League officials have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The law enforcement official played the AP a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible." ...

http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/ap-source-official-sent-rice-tape-to-nfl-months-ago/27988668

 

[Cajun Girl]

And there you have it. Roger Goodell and the NFL have been lying the entire time. Why you ask? $$$
They have disregarded the tape since April and tried to sweep it all under the rug. Why you ask? $$$. Then TMZ got ahold of the tape and blasted it. Watch the 4 minute tape, you will see Mr. Rice spitting on his fiancée before they even get to the elevator, an astute, outraged NFL player pointed that out yesterday. This entire incident makes me ill. My Sister survived 10 years of domestic abuse during a decade when those words barely existed. Seeing this circus reminds me even almost 50 years later, not much has changed. And that makes me incredibly, undeniably sad. Shame on you Roger Goodell and the NFL spin machine.

 

[jjenny]

"One former staffer said Rice, the former Baltimore Ravens running back, spat in his then-fiancée's face twice, "once outside the elevator and once inside," prompting her to retaliate with movements that were ultimately countered with a knockout punch. According to the men, as Rice punched Palmer, the elevator the couple rode was rapidly approaching the hotel lobby just two floors above the casino floor. A security staffer, dispatched from his lobby post, saw Rice starting to drag his fiancée, who appeared to still be unconscious, out of the elevator."

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11503496/ray-rice-spat-face-fiancee-twice-punch-lines-reports

 

[CARIIS]

Hey guys

This is like MAL 370 deja vu! Do you all remember seeing the video months ago. I do, but not sure how to find it - it was aired over and over - any of you remember this?

Its media just not reporting...................

 

[nrdsb4]

Hey guys

This is like MAL 370 deja vu! Do you all remember seeing the video months ago. I do, but not sure how to find it - it was aired over and over - any of you remember this?

Its media just not reporting...................

I can't speak for anyone else, but the only video I saw over and over shows Rice exiting the elevator, dragging his fiance out of it like a sack of potatoes. I never once saw video of him actually delivering the blow to her INSIDE the elevator.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

NFL to look into its handling of Rice case

By BARRY WILNER and ROB MAADDI, AP
2 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — The NFL called in a former FBI director to examine how it pursued and handled evidence in the Ray Rice domestic violence case as pressure increased for the league to be more transparent about its original investigation.

The move late Wednesday came hours after The Associated Press reported that a law enforcement officer said he sent an NFL executive a video in April that showed Rice striking his then-fiancee at a casino. Goodell has maintained that no one in the NFL saw the video until it was released by TMZ Sports Monday.

Women's organizations, members of Congress and players have called for more detail about the NFL's handling of the Rice case. The criticism intensified after the law enforcement official's account...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20140910/Rice.Video/

 

[TrackerSam]

I can't speak for anyone else, but the only video I saw over and over shows Rice exiting the elevator, dragging his fiance out of it like a sack of potatoes. I never once saw video of him actually delivering the blow to her INSIDE the elevator.

It's a very quick left hook.