NFL star, Ray Rice, cut by Ravens well after knocking his future wife unconscious

  • #81
^^^^^Yes, I see that on the video recently released. However, the video I saw three months ago showed nothing that happened inside the elevator, only Rice dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator.
 
  • #82
I can't speak for anyone else, but the only video I saw over and over shows Rice exiting the elevator, dragging his fiance out of it like a sack of potatoes. I never once saw video of him actually delivering the blow to her INSIDE the elevator.
Then you haven't seen the latest video that surfaced in the last couple of days. It shows just that and it's all over the place, not hard to find!
 
  • #83
Then you haven't seen the latest video that surfaced in the last couple of days. It shows just that and it's all over the place, not hard to find!


Yes, I have and I stated that already.

^^^^^Yes, I see that on the video recently released. However, the video I saw three months ago showed nothing that happened inside the elevator, only Rice dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator.

BBM

I was responding to a poster who just asked if we hadn't already seen this video (of the punch which occurred inside the elevator) several months ago.

Hey guys

This is like MAL 370 deja vu! Do you all remember seeing the video months ago. I do, but not sure how to find it - it was aired over and over - any of you remember this?

Its media just not reporting...................
 
  • #84
^^^^^Yes, I see that on the video recently released. However, the video I saw three months ago showed nothing that happened inside the elevator, only Rice dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator.

bbm I do wonder what version the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell saw, not sure if he has said he saw it. I wonder if who ever received it through the mail room there and what channels it( the video) would have went through, like who could/would have stopped it from proceeding further up the ladder to Goodell. jmo idk
 
  • #85
^^^^^Yes, I see that on the video recently released. However, the video I saw three months ago showed nothing that happened inside the elevator, only Rice dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator.

However.. WHO DOES THAT?!!! What man if her woman was unconscious would drag her out like a rag doll?? No one that gave a carp. If she fell and got hurt or was unconscious a normal man would have stood in the way of the doors closing and yelled for help.. Not him..
He pulls her out like she is garbage.

TO me that is enough to know his guy is a low life abuser.
Now that I see what happened before that, Him spitting in her face twice and then knocking her out? and not even caring that he knocked her out? He deserves jail time. If he did that to a man walking down the street he'd be charged with assault but heck.. The girlfriend well lets just let that go..

This ticks me off. Abusers don't start hitting.. They start well before that. and I bet that she was hit before because he punched her with no regard and then blamed the injuries on her.

He deserves to lose everything he has until he gets it and changes it.

I feel bad for that girl, So deluded, so indoctrinated that she thinks that is okay even once.
 
  • #86
bbm I do wonder what version the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell saw, not sure if he has said he saw it. I wonder if who ever received it through the mail room there and what channels it( the video) would have went through, like who could/would have stopped it from proceeding further up the ladder to Goodell. jmo idk
I'm guessing the legal team saw it and it was CYA time... 'Comm. R.Goodell can't SEE this, deniability '.... But seeing how this is playing out, without TMZ having made it public, we would never have seen it, so, how many times in the past has something of this nature gone on? Is this SOP for the NFL? And I am wondering also, how does something like this get into their hands? An employee punches his own ticket with TMZ, then quits his job at the casino? Wonder what TMZ had to pay for this....... & then I also keep thinking about the teams that will benefit from having Rice gone......
 
  • #87
I've just got to share this story. A former neighbor molested his pre-teen step-daughter over a 6 month period. (Would you believe he got 90 days? Incredible.) His wife said authorities had no reason to get involved; it was a family problem. She stuck with him. Don't know what it takes to get women to "see the light."
 
  • #88
I've just got to share this story. A former neighbor molested his pre-teen step-daughter over a 6 month period. (Would you believe he got 90 days? Incredible.) His wife said authorities had no reason to get involved; it was a family problem. She stuck with him. Don't know what it takes to get women to "see the light."

Yes, so true. I know a woman whose husband is currently in prison for abusing their adopted daughter. She visits him and fully intends for him to come home to her when he is released from prison. Fortunately the daughter is grown and out of the house, but their second adopted daughter is still at home, although an adult.

I don't know this woman all that well but she is the sister of a friend. It was strange because recently one of these womens nieces (from yet another sister) was orphaned. Fortunately there was little question that someone in the family would take custody, so my friend and their brother both offered. Everyone immediately dismissed the idea the the sister whose husband is in prison could take the niece, because they all recognized that no court would award custody to her knowing the husband would be living there again. What was odd was that it seemed so "matter of fact". Oh yeah, the other brother can't take her because he's a life long bachelor and the other sister can't because hubby is a convicted child molestor" As if one of those things is not horrendous.

Go figure.
 
  • #89
^^^Some of those stories are sickening. I guess for some women, it's better to be with a child molester or wife beater than
<GASP> without a man.

I get that when one has children, this can get complicated (and dangerous). But it's a mother's responsibility to protect her children, and I fail to see how allowing them to live with a man who abuses is doing them any favors. If anything, it just keeps the cycle of abuse going into the next generation.

Very frustrating and obviously not an easy problem to solve.
 
  • #90
However.. WHO DOES THAT?!!! What man if her woman was unconscious would drag her out like a rag doll?? No one that gave a carp. If she fell and got hurt or was unconscious a normal man would have stood in the way of the doors closing and yelled for help.. Not him..
He pulls her out like she is garbage.

TO me that is enough to know his guy is a low life abuser.
Now that I see what happened before that, Him spitting in her face twice and then knocking her out? and not even caring that he knocked her out? He deserves jail time. If he did that to a man walking down the street he'd be charged with assault but heck.. The girlfriend well lets just let that go..

This ticks me off. Abusers don't start hitting.. They start well before that. and I bet that she was hit before because he punched her with no regard and then blamed the injuries on her.

He deserves to lose everything he has until he gets it and changes it.

I feel bad for that girl, So deluded, so indoctrinated that she thinks that is okay even once.

Seeing how he just dropped her limp body on her face was really disturbing to me, even more so than the punch. Showed just how lacking in remorse he was.
 
  • #91
Seeing how he just dropped her limp body on her face was really disturbing to me, even more so than the punch. Showed just how lacking in remorse he was.

And there was a man standing next to the elevator door on the outside just watching!!!! WTH? He stood there watching Rice push Janay's unconscious body around with his foot...just watched him drag her. What is wrong with people?
 
  • #92
And there was a man standing next to the elevator door on the outside just watching!!!! WTH? He stood there watching Rice push Janay's unconscious body around with his foot...just watched him drag her. What is wrong with people?

Although it's absolutely no excuse, at first it was thought by others that she was drunk. Still? To use your foot?
 
  • #93
IDK maybe it's me. But the way I see it is, how can you ask for something if you don't know it exist. If all that was out there was her on the floor and him moving her feet and dragging her, how was anyone to know what had transpired moments before. If he was punished for what was available to view at that time then how can the nfl be at fault. idk jmo I feel that there may be alterer motives at work, just a little feeling because of the delay. I do look or try to look at angles that are sometimes looked over, but that's just me. Just seems that RR was already looked at in a bad light and maybe they are trying to make some else look worse. idk jmo It's my opinion that Goodell had no idea what RR did and that who ever released what happened was probably after Goodell for ignoring it, even though there is nothing that says he knew. jmo idk something just stinks to me that's all.
 
  • #94
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/265128...-wear-ray-rice-jerseys-at-thursday-night-game

Well, isn't this just crazy. And, what IS wrong with today's people? Note this comment:

"There's two sides to every story," said the 23-year-old waitress from Baltimore. "I saw the video. That's their personal business, and it shouldn't have affected his career. I don't agree with domestic violence, but she's still with him, so obviously it wasn't that big of a deal. Everyone should just drop it."
 
  • #95
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/265128...-wear-ray-rice-jerseys-at-thursday-night-game

Well, isn't this just crazy. And, what IS wrong with today's people? Note this comment:

"There's two sides to every story," said the 23-year-old waitress from Baltimore. "I saw the video. That's their personal business, and it shouldn't have affected his career. I don't agree with domestic violence, but she's still with him, so obviously it wasn't that big of a deal. Everyone should just drop it."

Violence isn't 'personal business', it's criminal. I think it would have been better if the state had prosecuted him. More and more states are prosecuting with or without her pressing charges.
 
  • #96
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...g-ray-rices-contract-20140908,0,2715305.story

Ray and his wife are still wealthy people. If Janay chose to divorce him, it would be easy to find a lawyer who could use the tape and take Ray to the cleaners. But, she chooses to stay with him. That is her right. I never understood Rihanna continuing to see Chris Brown, not married to him, no children, but off and on, she still does. Also, he still is played on the radio and you tube, still has a record contract, etc...
Just treat everyone the same.
 
  • #97
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...g-ray-rices-contract-20140908,0,2715305.story

Ray and his wife are still wealthy people. If Janay chose to divorce him, it would be easy to find a lawyer who could use the tape and take Ray to the cleaners. But, she chooses to stay with him. That is her right. I never understood Rihanna continuing to see Chris Brown, not married to him, no children, but off and on, she still does. Also, he still is played on the radio and you tube, still has a record contract, etc...
Just treat everyone the same.

I've known women that can not live without being in a state of chaos.
And I've known many that equate violence, jealousy, and controlling behavior as "love"



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  • #98
This story resonates with me. As a DV survivor with daughters, I grew up in a equating love with violence from a very young age. It didn't occur to me that one didn't come without the other. I idolized my father and tried desperately to win his approval, not knowing that alcohol played into his mood swings until I was older.

The cycle of violence repeated itself, but I didn't value myself enough to leave in time. Yes, I made terrible mistakes, and years of therapy have taught me that now as I look back. I can't allow myself to regret every choice I made, especially since they brought my beautiful children into my life.

I wish I had left sooner, but I didn't. However, I did NOT allow them to be exposed to violence twice. The moment my children were at risk, there was no amount of money or anything tangible that was worth the risk. I gave it all up and left.

The financial ruin, loss of my career and everything we had ever known is something we are still recovering from. It's been years and we still live in the shadows, looking over our shoulders. It takes an immeasurable strength to leave a violent relationship, press charges, and stand strong and tall in the face of this adversity.

However, I knew I had to do this, for myself and my girls. They look to me as an example of what it means to be a strong woman. If I stayed, what would I be saying to them? I could never forgive myself if I had stayed, because I knew there would be a next time.

Violence escalates, and I could not take the chance of either of them being hurt, or God forbid, me dying at the hands of my abuser.

It was my responsibility to protect our family at all costs. I wish more parents (as both men and women are victims of DV) would make this difficult decision, but as we have seen on these threads, they don't. :moo:

I wish JR the strength to see the forest through the trees. I hope she and her child stay safe. Money can be replaced. She and her child are irreplaceable.

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  • #99
I've just got to share this story. A former neighbor molested his pre-teen step-daughter over a 6 month period. (Would you believe he got 90 days? Incredible.) His wife said authorities had no reason to get involved; it was a family problem. She stuck with him. Don't know what it takes to get women to "see the light."
Fortunately Robin Givens is speaking out again how Mike Tyson beat her, just as the idiot is bleeping off reporters on talk shows.
 
  • #100
This story resonates with me. As a DV survivor with daughters, I grew up in a equating love with violence from a very young age. It didn't occur to me that one didn't come without the other. I idolized my father and tried desperately to win his approval, not knowing that alcohol played into his mood swings until I was older.

The cycle of violence repeated itself, but I didn't value myself enough to leave in time. Yes, I made terrible mistakes, and years of therapy have taught me that now as I look back. I can't allow myself to regret every choice I made, especially since they brought my beautiful children into my life.

I wish I had left sooner, but I didn't. However, I did NOT allow them to be exposed to violence twice. The moment my children were at risk, there was no amount of money or anything tangible that was worth the risk. I gave it all up and left.

The financial ruin, loss of my career and everything we had ever known is something we are still recovering from. It's been years and we still live in the shadows, looking over our shoulders. It takes an immeasurable strength to leave a violent relationship, press charges, and stand strong and tall in the face of this adversity.

However, I knew I had to do this, for myself and my girls. They look to me as an example of what it means to be a strong woman. If I stayed, what would I be saying to them? I could never forgive myself if I had stayed, because I knew there would be a next time.

Violence escalates, and I could not take the chance of either of them being hurt, or God forbid, me dying at the hands of my abuser.

It was my responsibility to protect our family at all costs. I wish more parents (as both men and women are victims of DV) would make this difficult decision, but as we have seen on these threads, they don't. :moo:

I wish JR the strength to see the forest through the trees. I hope she and her child stay safe. Money can be replaced. She and her child are irreplaceable.

:twocents:


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