GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #10

[Hap]

When I first heard about this case, it reminded me of one that happened about 47 miles southeast of Conway back in 2006, I believe it was.

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Her body was found further down the river in the spring. It's never sat well with me as a suicide. I've never believed that. I felt it was an easy cop out/explanation. Just my honest opinion.

I remember this. It was very sad. I am not getting any vibes that there is a suicide concern for Abby. Nevertheless, her being gone so long is very worrisome.

Thankful to the rest of the WSers who are keeping this thread going. :loveyou::loveyou::loveyou:

 

[NH GIRL]

But have they ever really said anything of substance? IMO, NO! Won't even just say "yes or no" to the question "Has Abby ever run away before".. that IS a question that a simple word could answer... instead we get the uncharacteristic blah blah blah...

I'm afraid much of what we believe or have thought, isn't what the truth really is. It just seems that there remains too much mystery when at this late in the case, it shouldn't be!

I had felt Abby was abducted in the beginning, but now... I don't think so. Abby left for whatever reasons. Whether she wants to come back or not, I don't know. If the letter even hinted to her being gone against her will, I feel that some of that letter would have been stated by now. NO I don't mean the entire letter! I mean a basic summary of it's contents. As of today, nothing is known about the letter, about Abby's state of mind, Abby's likes/dislikes, whether she has left before or not, heck we can't even state if she could have went to be with paternal family, or why LE just refuses to even speak of her Dad! Never seen anything like it, and IMO, many have simply stopped looking for Abby, and if they saw her, or suspected it was her, might not even report it, thinking Abby doesn't want to be at home, so why get involved?

I guess it was the last LE brief where the letter was mentioned, and the short haired lady that must be running the investigation stated something along the lines of why the resources for a runaway.. and that they will keep looking for Abby because Zyena wants them to. Ummm OK! YES if my child was missing I would want FBI and ever resource on the spot immediately. YET I would most likely only get the attention of local LE, and doubtful much would be done. WHAT is so different in THIS case, that got THIS much attention??? Something MUCH more than we've been told, IMO!!

And that lack of information has hindered the public's interests, IMO! I was just speaking to my husband the other day about Abby's case, and though he has seen her photos before, he didn't even remember it! I have neighbors from up north. She has grandkids that still live there. My neighbor keeps to herself, isn't active in the community per her choice. If I saw a teenage girl at her home, I wouldn't immediately think it could be Abby...but the truth is, it could be! It could be her granddaughter as well. But, if Abby changes hair colors, length, etc. nothing about her would truly stand out to identify her. Knowing more about her would help with that aspect! But...anyway...

Be safe Abby, wherever you are!!

JMO!!

Abby does NOT have a history of running away. She never has. And there are NO indications of her being a runaway now. She is still considered a Missing Person. Which, it doesn't matter what the situation is, the fact of the matter is, Abby is a 15 yr old girl, NOT at home with her mother. No situation she currently is in is a safe or healthy one.

 

[2Hope4]

If by some chance she was with family, would she not be safe? I don't know, as I don't know any of the family. I do know how emotional teenagers can be. I do know my children would have had a really tough time with a divorce, and definitely with me or their Dad having a new significant other. I'm not saying either is wrong!!! I'm saying from a teenager's point of view, it's much different than an adult's point of view. However, I also know that if my kids were with anyone on either side of the family (with exception to my MIL, who would emotionally, mentally harm and not realize she was or admit that she's doing anything wrong) they would be safe. It wouldn't be what I wanted. Any Mom that loves their kids would want contact with them! I would be heartbroken for sure!!! But if I thought that's where they were, I know they that their needs were being met.

Teenagers years can be rough for many kids. I might would even say the majority. So much peer pressure, so much wanting to fit in, so many changes going on within in the body, it's just rough, IMO.

Again, I do care about Abby, and I pray she is OK, and safe wherever she is, and that if she wants to be at home, that some way, some how that opportunity comes soon!

I pray her parents can find answers, and work together to be there for Abby when she does come home.

I wonder if any searches are still being done? Well I guess probably not with the winter months and snow. Does Abby have a special place she liked to hang out? A special place she would go to chill, and think if upset? Does she have a close relationship with relatives from both sides of the family? Close enough that there's a chance she could have attempted to go to one? Even if she didn't make it there, could she have attempted? Has she ever dealt with depression or anxiety? Had she recently had any conflict ? Yes I believe if she's still out there, then someone is helping her. Whether it is helping, or not, I mean they are supporting her in some way. I pray it's a positive helping, and that's she being treated as she should be.

Does she have any birthmarks that might be noticeable if a photo was on backpages, or any site like that? Something that would set her apart from most of the girls? Does LE think it's a possibility that human trafficking is involved? Would the 'underground' world be able to get her into another country? I don't know how that world operates, only that it isn't good!

WHERE ARE U ABBY?

 

[LookingHoping]

I'm sure if she was with one of her parents that LE would know. I cannot imagine they leave a parent out of an investigation like this. I suspect they'd have also looked into special places, relationships, all that. They've been working diligently on this case daily, since she went missing. I don't think they are ruling anything out.

I do think information about birthmarks and such would be good for public to know. I hate the idea of her possibly being on one of those pages, but yes, it would be good info to help spot her because they (the scum of the earth) love to keep faces off those pages (grrrrrrr). Ooooh LAWDDY I looked at back page the other day for the first time and needed serious eye and soul bleaching/cleansing afterwards&#8230;.

 

[TxLady2]

I follow this case frequently, but rarely post. Just wanted to add some thoughts here.

A lot of times there is no indication beforehand that a teenager has even thought of running away. It just happens, for some reason we don't realize at the time. It can sometimes be just a spur of the moment idea, and sometimes they plan ahead, but they never think about what can happen, or the dangers out there. They're young, they haven't seen all the bad things in this world, and there is no warning severe enough to get it through their heads what they're getting into. A lot of young girls.. and some boys.. end up prostituting, get involved with drugs and end up dying young. But even if you point those things out to a teenager, it goes right past them. "Oh, that will never happen to ME.. I'm going to make it on my own." But it does happen, and that is the scary part.

Even of they've never given a thought to it before... there is always a first time. For some unlucky ones, it's the ONLY time... because they have their lives taken away by some pervert. For the lucky ones, they come back home, a little older, and hopefully a lot wiser.

My point is, don't be swayed by the fact that it may never have happened before. It may not be true in this case, but it could be. Just know that they don't always leave clues, and sometimes will do or say things to throw parents off the track.

I pray that she does come home safe and well.

 

[MamaJoJo]

I follow this case frequently, but rarely post. Just wanted to add some thoughts here.

A lot of times there is no indication beforehand that a teenager has even thought of running away. It just happens, for some reason we don't realize at the time. It can sometimes be just a spur of the moment idea, and sometimes they plan ahead, but they never think about what can happen, or the dangers out there. They're young, they haven't seen all the bad things in this world, and there is no warning severe enough to get it through their heads what they're getting into. A lot of young girls.. and some boys.. end up prostituting, get involved with drugs and end up dying young. But even if you point those things out to a teenager, it goes right past them. "Oh, that will never happen to ME.. I'm going to make it on my own." But it does happen, and that is the scary part.

Even of they've never given a thought to it before... there is always a first time. For some unlucky ones, it's the ONLY time... because they have their lives taken away by some pervert. For the lucky ones, they come back home, a little older, and hopefully a lot wiser.

My point is, don't be swayed by the fact that it may never have happened before. It may not be true in this case, but it could be. Just know that they don't always leave clues, and sometimes will do or say things to throw parents off the track.

I pray that she does come home safe and well.

I like your post, TX. I'm sort of steadfast in my belief that Abby did not runaway; always have been. But, I do have to concede, there is always a first time for everything. NHGirl is very clear with her proclamations against Abby running away and I believe that all of the Bring Abby Home camp feel the same way. It must be a tireless journey for those close to Abby trying to figure out what in the world happened on that fateful Wednesday.

Find your way home, Abby!

 

[LORI5050]

Praying you are safe and will be found soon..

 

[Steleheart]

I like your post, TX. I'm sort of steadfast in my belief that Abby did not runaway; always have been. But, I do have to concede, there is always a first time for everything. NHGirl is very clear with her proclamations against Abby running away and I believe that all of the Bring Abby Home camp feel the same way. It must be a tireless journey for those close to Abby trying to figure out what in the world happened on that fateful Wednesday.

Find your way home, Abby!

I agree with you MJ - steadfast. She didn't do this. someone else did. I may be on the fence sometimes about whether she left with someone willingly and it went bad, or some creep just breaking down his exhibit at the fair, or a quick meet-up to "finally meet-in-person", etc. Still being held or didn't make it, We don't know.

 

[Steleheart]

Not directed at anyone in particular;

It's not that the only answer to whether she ran away was JY saying" this is not characteristic.."
http://www.myfoxboston.com/video?clipId=9607183&topVideoCatNo=238258&autoStart=true

I think that phrase was like a summary of what LE found out in this case up until now. There is much information supporting the belief that she would not have simply taken off. Much of which has been reported, linked and cited and especially in a CWS Story here;
http://www.conwaydailysun.com/index.php/newsx/local-news/109589-rich-gray-comments-on-case-from-afar

"RG, who has been in a relationship with Abigail's mother, ZH, for four years, issued a statement per a reporter's request..."
He also answered a reporter's question about the ordeal by noting via email Oct. 17, “I was pretty shocked and scared when Z told me that night of the 9th that [Abby] hadn’t come home.

So he's known Abby since she was ~10. He was shocked. He was scared. Further;
"I was sure that she was just out for whatever reason and that she’d be back that night. But she hadn’t done anything like that since I’ve known her, so all kinds of things went through my mind."

YES there's always a first time. But a kid with no history and a pretty good life (by all accounts thus far) Doesn't just get out of school one day and stick her thumb out looking for a new life, taking nothing and tossing her phone! And No Trail To Follow That's one smart young woman! If that is what happened? She's AT RISK!
And as other posters have mentioned upthread if it was an authority figure, etc - someone she trusted and wanted to be with or someone trying to protect her - STILL unhealthy. And yes absolutely at risk.

But come on. These days someone that sees her walking one day can strike up a thang, HEY 'HMU, here use this phone my GF is jealous' - a few texts, pics and etc. Then grab her the next day.
Baddabing.
And the only actual evidence is locked inside Abby's phone. Cell companies don't keep that data very long:
https://www.aclu.org/cell-phone-loc...ponse-cell-phone-company-data-retention-chart

Look at it "text message content" '3-5 days', 'not retained' etc. carrier by carrier...

I think we want info the FBI just doesn't have.

 

[LORI5050]

Praying for you Abby.. We have not forgotten you. Many people are looking for you. Stay strong.

 

[Spider92]

I read that a body was found today behind a theater in Hooksett, NH but can't find any details. Has anybody read about that? It's probably not related but it caught my attention.

 

[gnsndr33]

I read that a body was found today behind a theater in Hooksett, NH but can't find any details. Has anybody read about that? It's probably not related but it caught my attention.

Where did you read that?

 

[MamaJoJo]

Where did you read that?

Reported as an "untimely death".

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140225/NEWS07/140229542

ETA: Doesn't seem to be related to Abby.

 

[gnsndr33]

Found it. http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140225/NEWS07/140229542&template=mobileart

 

[gnsndr33]

I hope this isn't her..... Please no. But then again I don't want it to be anyone's child!

 

[Spider92]

Found it. http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140225/NEWS07/140229542&template=mobileart

I can't seem to read that link without a subscription....does that article provide an identity?

 

[gnsndr33]

I can't seem to read that link without a subscription....does that article provide an identity?

Try this link sorry http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140225/NEWS07/140229542

 

[gnsndr33]

Hooksett Police Chief Peter Bartlett confirmed the body was not that of a child, but provided no other details.

 

[mcw0105]

I haven't seen this shared yet....

http://www.wmur.com/news/mother-of-abigail-hernandez-shares-new-message-to-daughter/24678478

New message from ZH. Anyone else curious as to what was meant by "Don't step on a sleeping bear" ?????

 

[MamaJoJo]

Lori mentioned the new message from ZH on 2/22/14 up thread...

Mom left another Message to Abby on the BAH page.. So sad..

Please God let this be the day that Abby is found safe and brought home to her Mom and Sister..

I haven't seen this shared yet....

http://www.wmur.com/news/mother-of-abigail-hernandez-shares-new-message-to-daughter/24678478

New message from ZH. Anyone else curious as to what was meant by "Don't step on a sleeping bear" ?????

I've definitely been curious. An inside joke? Meaning what?