NH NH - Allenstown, Adult Female & 3 Children, found Nov'85 & May'00

[Alleykins]

After Carl K and webrocket's recent discovery of a living missing person who left with a violent person, you never know.

 

[Alleykins]

Honestly, as much as this is close to a match up I'm still kind of convinced Dorothy is this Jane Doe from 1975: https://identifyus.org/cases/10796 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...CT-18-28-Wrapped-in-Paint-Spotted-Tarp-Aug-75

I honestly doubt Dorothy made it past 1975.

According to the WS thread you posted, Dorothy was already turned in and being considered for that East Haven JD back in 2010. post #19 by hmg
In 2012 someone mentioned the possible match so they may have submitted it again, who knows? And on Dorothy's page, hmg posted in 2013 they hadn't heard anything back yet. www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?111270-OH-Dorothy-Leishman-Wood-Madden-25-Lorain-8-Aug-1975

I haven't been able to determine if anyone did submit Dorothy as a match for the Allenstown NH adult JD yet, though.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

After Carl K and webrocket's recent discovery of a living missing person who left with a violent person, you never know.

Can you clue me in on this one?

 

[Springrain]

Can you clue me in on this one?

I'm not Alleykins, but this thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...52UFNJ-18-20-dismembered-in-trash-bags-Jun-80

After Carl's special on Crime Watch Daily, (which featured a couple UIDs at the end, including Buckskin Girl), someone contacting him saying that she thought her sister might be BG. It was concluded that she was not BG, but she bore a shocking resemblance to the High Point Jane Doe, and the JD's death fit in perfectly with the circumstances of the girl's disappearance. Carl and Webrocket located her alive in Palm Springs.

 

[Alleykins]

Thanks, Springrain, for posting that.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

The years are close, Native American possibly AND a child's size 4 t-shirt found with the body? What the HAY!!! Could this John Doe be the father or sibling of the unrelated 4 year old?

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1

 

[Alleykins]

The years are close, Native American possibly AND a child's size 4 t-shirt found with the body? What the HAY!!! Could this John Doe be the father or sibling of the unrelated 4 year old?

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1

I often wonder if UID DNA is run against others UP's in CODIS.

 

[KaylaraOwl]

I could ask Todd Matthews about it. I think I have him on Facebook.

 

[Roselvr]

The years are close, Native American possibly AND a child's size 4 t-shirt found with the body? What the HAY!!! Could this John Doe be the father or sibling of the unrelated 4 year old?

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1

It's not loading for me, not even google cache. Tried 2 browsers too. Can someone do a screen shot?

 

[Alleykins]

I could ask Todd Matthews about it. I think I have him on Facebook.

Please do-that would be awesome. Thanks!

 

[Roselvr]

I could ask Todd Matthews about it. I think I have him on Facebook.

He gets a lot of PM's, replies some times and others does not. Drives me nuts when he opens them but doesn't reply

 

[Alleykins]

Here's a screen shot of the page of http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1. Sorry it's not great but hope it helps. The very bottom got cut off cuz of the size.

 

[Roselvr]

Here's a screen shot of the page of http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1. Sorry it's not great but hope it helps. The very bottom got cut off cuz of the size.

Thank you. Yes, it helps very much

The years are close, Native American possibly AND a child's size 4 t-shirt found with the body? What the HAY!!! Could this John Doe be the father or sibling of the unrelated 4 year old?

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1

Do not think he could be the father. We're looking at 2 little possible siblings, one (older of the 2) of which has American Indian heritage, the baby did not; which means the mother would be AI

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Thank you. Yes, it helps very much



Do not think he could be the father. We're looking at 2 little possible siblings, one (older of the 2) of which has American Indian heritage, the baby did not; which means the mother would be AI

The older of the two younger ones is the one I referred to . Don't see why a potentially 23 yeAr old man couldn't be the father of the 4 year old. I'm not following what you're trying to say here.

 

[ice190]

Here's a screen shot of the page of http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184250/1. Sorry it's not great but hope it helps. The very bottom got cut off cuz of the size.

His teeth are a bit out of line, perhaps like the child/ren?

Sent from my SCH-I435 using Tapatalk

 

[KaylaraOwl]

He gets a lot of PM's, replies some times and others does not. Drives me nuts when he opens them but doesn't reply

I sent it. We'll see if he responds.

 

[Alleykins]

I sent it. We'll see if he responds.

Thank you. I've always wanted to know because there are missing sibling & family groups out there, like the Abel and Leslie sisters, who may have ended up in different places.

 

[Roselvr]

The older of the two younger ones is the one I referred to . Don't see why a potentially 23 yeAr old man couldn't be the father of the 4 year old. I'm not following what you're trying to say here.

They most likely share a white father. If the father was AI, both little girls would be part AI. Both little girls are not AI, just the older of the 2, which means the AI comes from the maternal side.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

They most likely share a white father. If the father was AI, both little girls would be part AI. Both little girls are not AI, just the older of the 2, which means the AI comes from the maternal side.

That assumes WE KNOW that both little girls have the same father and we DON'T know that. That has been the speculation. We can just as easily speculate regarding this John Doe that he was killed and the killer took his child (size 4 child's shirt found with his body) and killer later hooked up with the maternally linked oldest UID here and THEN had a child with her. Maybe he told her that he had custody of this child and the child's mother wasn't in the picture. Who knows. It's just another theory other than the one you point out, that should/could be looked into like any other one before it is ruled out. We don't even know if the killer of the Allenstown UIDs WAS the father of the youngest child. We DO KNOW that the middle child possibly has different isotopes. Oklahoma is not far from her isotope region. A mother not in the picture and a father dead also explains why this middle child may not be reported missing, especially if she may have come from a reservation.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Here are two maps of Native Amercan reservations. And the middle child's isotope map. Wish I knew a way to overlay them.