NH NH/CA - Robert Evans, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's

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  • #381
Also(sorry to add so many posts!have been trying to keep up with news reports)denises mother died in 2008.georgette beaudins obit listed Denise as,a family member,no mention of a grandaughter.denises brother was listed as deceased,cannot fund anything online in regards to this.
 
  • #382
The Middle Child that is "Bob Evans" Child. Could this be the girl. Strangely enough her name is Elizabeth. She was 7 months old when mom and daughter went missing in 1977. Moms Remains were found in 1981, but the baby was never found. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3011dfca.html
 
  • #383
****GUYS!WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS:I went into MyLife,and looked into Denise beaudin in Manchester NH.it showed me places she used to live after NH,and uts Scottsdale az.it lists relatives as Randall and Armand,her brother and father,so this is def her.did she make it Scottsdale with Robert ?????if not,he used her info..bur I'm thinking she made it that far !!!!
 
  • #384
****GUYS!WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS:I went into MyLife,and looked into Denise beaudin in Manchester NH.it showed me places she used to live after NH,and uts Scottsdale az.it lists relatives as Randall and Armand,her brother and father,so this is def her.did she make it Scottsdale with Robert ?????if not,he used her info..bur I'm thinking she made it that far !!!!

I found a Denise Beaudin in Arizona too. but she is older than the Denise we are looking for. The one in Arizona was born in 1954. The Denise from NH was born about 1958.
 
  • #385
I found a Denise Beaudin in Arizona too. but she is older than the Denise we are looking for. The one in Arizona was born in 1954. The Denise from NH was born about 1958.

I thought of that too.but a)if someone ,like Evans used her name to get utilities hooked up,etc...b)if she made it that far with him,no telling what he told her....telling her to use a,diff birthdate..maybe govt assistance ?its not like it is today..either way,its connected info to her brother and father ,so it isn't anyone else.period.
 
  • #386
Also(sorry to add so many posts!have been trying to keep up with news reports)denises mother died in 2008.georgette beaudins obit listed Denise as,a family member,no mention of a grandaughter.denises brother was listed as deceased,cannot fund anything online in regards to this.

I noticed Georgette Beaudins obit listed a "...daughter in law Denise Flint and her husband Mark"

I did some digging and this Denise appears to have been married to Randall and changed her name. So I think we have two Denise Beaudins, at least for some period of time. The daughter in law's middle initial is P. Is this the Denise in AZ?
 
  • #387
I think everytime BE movrd and changed his name it was because he had killed.

I think he likely murdered before NH and taking the name BE.

I believe Elizabeth was there in NH or close by and is likely the woman in the barrel. I believe he killed them before hooking up with Denise.

Denise was probably alive for some time to take care of Dawn before she was killed, probably in Texas.

I have no doubt there are more victims during his missing years, under other aliases.

I think any names he used have been thoroughly vetted by LE. The break is going to come from someone who recognizes him or by connecting him to stolen identities.

I have nothing to offer beyond my posting the info on Curtis Kimball, that was later posted by someone else. I think the man in Georgia was the real Curtis.

Hopefully familial DNA can be used to ID the other victims. I know it's not the same process but new techniques are always coming.

JMO

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I found a Denise Beaudin in Arizona too. but she is older than the Denise we are looking for. The one in Arizona was born in 1954. The Denise from NH was born about 1958.
and lets remember..MyLife pulls up your name and states..but they get it from mostly mail,govt payments,utilities,etc.and sometimes ,as I recently learned after a friends mother was missing for 23 years...it shows relatives as,say,places you've rented,if other people rented same place,will show you are relatives .i Googled my own name,and cousins I haven't seen since childhood showed up as relatives,no idea how.but in this case,we know Evans,was in AZ.and it shows her relatives,as her brother and father .its a,sign she likely made it to AZ!someone turn it in?
 
  • #390
I noticed Georgette Beaudins obit listed a "...daughter in law Denise Flint and her husband Mark"

I did some digging and this Denise appears to have been married to Randall and changed her name. So I think we have two Denise Beaudins, at least for some period of time. The daughter in law's middle initial is P. Is this the Denise in AZ?
Very good point !however I think Randall died shortly after the marriage,and my interest is the fact that Denise beaudin,as 925 Hayward st Manchester NH,showed our Denise,and look listed places she has lived after Manchester NH as Scottsdale az,also places we know Robert Evans has lived in the past and future...
 
  • #391
Actually,ive spoken to the NAMUS administrator,as well as ADMIN from Doe Network.they do not rule out potential matches just because they both have DNA in the system.its a difficult thing to understand ,but certain matches may require certain DNA,like paternal needed she only maternal submitted and so forth.if they get a reasonable match,they contact LE,and,request further samples.so its possible that a doe and another match could be in the system,but it may not be a hit because perhaps they needed a,paternal sample,etc
Thank you. I've tried saying this several times, and keep getting shut down.

We do not need to rule out ANYONE unless they are on a rule-out list. Send it in if you think it could match!

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  • #392
What needs to be vetted more is who was/is Donna/Denise from California who was registered as a guardian of Dawn/Lisa? Is there anyone from the trailer park he lived in that could verify if a woman was living with him in 1986? If it was Denise Beudin she clearly didn't die in between NH and CA and lived, at least, another 5 years. If it's not her we have another potential missing persons/murder victim.
 
  • #393
What needs to be vetted more is who was/is Donna/Denise from California who was registered as a guardian of Dawn/Lisa? Is there anyone from the trailer park he lived in that could verify if a woman was living with him in 1986? If it was Denise Beudin she clearly didn't die in between NH and CA and lived, at least, another 5 years. If it's not her we have another potential missing persons/murder victim.
do you have a link for this subject?because from my own research,there was no donna/denise listed as the guardian.the legal notice states any females...listed donna laporte/etc..but that's,a,formality.he til people who the mother was,and in order for the state to sever their ties and rights ,they have to post a legal notice for three weeks.they are listing only names Robert gave out as the mother ,which is prob false
 
  • #394
I think Denise was around longer than anyone is positing.

1. Denise worked at a nursing home at one point before she disappeared. The LaPorte woman was listed as a nurse.

2. I can't see this dude taking care of a little girl for all that long by himself. Taking care of a child is a lot of work, and the reports seem to indicate she was in good shape physically when she was abandoned.

3. Possible ties to AZ with her involved.

My pure speculation is that she joined him in a life of aliases for a few years, made it to California with him, and was killed shortly before he and the little girl made it to the RV park.

I also think that the middle girl from Allenstown was Lisa 1.0 . I think he did away with her mother and used her to help him ingrate himself with a woman and her kids, i.e. Elizabeth. He got around to killing all of them shortly before he hooked up with Denise. After a few years on the road, finally settling in CA, he killed Denise and got ready to repeat the pattern, but for some reason abandoned Lisa instead. Maybe there are others in between. The mention of other children would make it seem possible but it just doesn't make sense that he would keep the child around for all that long after he had killed her mother. That's my two cents for whatever it's worth.
 
  • #395
What needs to be vetted more is who was/is Donna/Denise from California who was registered as a guardian of Dawn/Lisa? Is there anyone from the trailer park he lived in that could verify if a woman was living with him in 1986? If it was Denise Beudin she clearly didn't die in between NH and CA and lived, at least, another 5 years. If it's not her we have another potential missing persons/murder victim.
The information in that legal post was provided solely by BE to the people he abandoned Lisa with. I don't believe for a minute that much, if any, of it was true.

If there was a Donna LaPorte, either it was a name he knew from the past, or he simply made it up.

JMO

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  • #396
do you have a link for this subject?because from my own research,there was no donna/denise listed as the guardian.the legal notice states any females...listed donna laporte/etc..but that's,a,formality.he til people who the mother was,and in order for the state to sever their ties and rights ,they have to post a legal notice for three weeks.they are listing only names Robert gave out as the mother ,which is prob false
Sorry, I missed this. I basically said the same a few posts later, but I would have just agreed with you!

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  • #397
Going over the names and locations, an item that stuck out is the comment BE was possibly visiting family in Bay City, TX We have another comment that says he was employed there as well. Seems as thou he may have spent a large amount of time in Texas

The suspect might have known someone who lived at an RV park in Austin during 1986. The suspect called two RV parks: Austin Lone Star RV Resort and Pecan Grove RV Park. During the 70s and 80, he said he worked as an electrician, mechanic and repairman for various companies across Texas.

Austin Lone RV Park
https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...430981051f60a66!8m2!3d30.184789!4d-97.7709388

Pecan Grove RV Park
https://www.google.com/maps/place/P...09557137806cef!8m2!3d30.2628487!4d-97.7601756


- Wyoming, Evanstown: Possible place of birth
- California, San Pedro, Calif.: Possible place of birth
- Colorado, Denver: Possibly spent time here
- Virginia,Roanoke: Evans claimed he married his wife Denise LaPorte here, who cannot be identified or located
- Canada,Quebec: Evans also claims he met his wife LaPorte here
- California, Anaheim: Possibly employed here
- Texas, Bay City: Possibly spent time here with "family" and was employed here
- Texas, Ingleside: Possibly employed here
- Texas, Houston: Evans claimed LaPorte died here; was possibly employed here
- Texas, Austin: Evans attempted to call someone here living in an RV park
- Texas, Corpus Christi: Evans stated his wife was murdered in Corpus Christi
- Hawaii, Honolulu: Possible association to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, based in Honolulu
- Georgia, Greensboro: Possibly arrested under another alias name here
- Arizona, Phoenix: Possible place of employment
- Missouri, St. Louis: Possible place of employment
- Louisiana: Possible place of employment
- Washington State: Possible place of employment
- Oregon: Possible state of travel/employment

Confirmed Aliases
- Robert T. Evans (1970’s – 1981)
- Robert C. Evans (1970’s – 1981)
- Curtis Mayo Kimball (1984 – 1985)
- Gordon Curtis Jenson (1986)
- Gordon Curtis Jensen (1986)
- Gerald E. Mockerman (1988)
- Jerry Edward Mockerman
- Lawrence William Vanner (2001 – 2002)

Other Alias Varations
- Jerry Edwards Gorman
- Ulos Jenson
- Curtis Rollin Kimball
- Don Vannerson

Footprints of a Serial Killer - NH1 WBIN
http://www.nh1.com/full-coverage/footprints-of-a-serial-killer/

New Hampshire murder suspect could’ve had ties to Austin
http://kxan.com/2017/01/26/new-hampshire-murder-suspect-couldve-had-ties-in-austin/
 
  • #398
All thou it says Hawaii, there are many locations would be a good idea to circulate BE's mugshots and information to area unions in CA and TX.


- Honolulu, Hawaii: Possible association to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, based in Honolulu

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  • #399
Someone that Knew Bob Evans AKA "Gordon Jenson" in the mid-80's Speaks Out
http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/wo...cle_007c1332-df8f-54df-8ede-b8150ba8ce7a.html

I find this interesting. Was this just to stay in character? Or did he actually mourn Denise's death even though he killed her? This leads me to wonder if Evans ever have a psychological evaluation in prison? Could he have Schizophrenia or some other mental disorder. I say schizophrenia because I know sometimes when untreated, someone with the illness can be a danger to themselves and other people. Evans is said to be an alcoholic, which is especially dangerous to mix with an untreated mental illness.

This part is heartbreaking...Maybe he lived with the bear brook victims like this? I have theorized they were impoverished.

I'm so glad that in the unthinkable hell she likely experienced while with Evans, Lisa had someone like Mrs. Decker. The part where she would call her grandma is so sweet!

Sociopaths feel a lot of self-pity. So it may have just been that.


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  • #400
Going over the names and locations, an item that stuck out is the comment BE was possibly visiting family in Bay City, TX We have another comment that says he was employed there as well. Seems as thou he may have spent a large amount of time in Texas

The suspect might have known someone who lived at an RV park in Austin during 1986. The suspect called two RV parks: Austin Lone Star RV Resort and Pecan Grove RV Park. During the 70s and 80, he said he worked as an electrician, mechanic and repairman for various companies across Texas.

Austin Lone RV Park
https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...430981051f60a66!8m2!3d30.184789!4d-97.7709388

Pecan Grove RV Park
https://www.google.com/maps/place/P...09557137806cef!8m2!3d30.2628487!4d-97.7601756


- Wyoming, Evanstown: Possible place of birth
- California, San Pedro, Calif.: Possible place of birth
- Colorado, Denver: Possibly spent time here
- Virginia,Roanoke: Evans claimed he married his wife Denise LaPorte here, who cannot be identified or located
- Canada,Quebec: Evans also claims he met his wife LaPorte here
- California, Anaheim: Possibly employed here
- Texas, Bay City: Possibly spent time here with "family" and was employed here
- Texas, Ingleside: Possibly employed here
- Texas, Houston: Evans claimed LaPorte died here; was possibly employed here
- Texas, Austin: Evans attempted to call someone here living in an RV park
- Texas, Corpus Christi: Evans stated his wife was murdered in Corpus Christi
- Hawaii, Honolulu: Possible association to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, based in Honolulu
- Georgia, Greensboro: Possibly arrested under another alias name here
- Arizona, Phoenix: Possible place of employment
- Missouri, St. Louis: Possible place of employment
- Louisiana: Possible place of employment
- Washington State: Possible place of employment
- Oregon: Possible state of travel/employment

Confirmed Aliases
- Robert T. Evans (1970’s – 1981)
- Robert C. Evans (1970’s – 1981)
- Curtis Mayo Kimball (1984 – 1985)
- Gordon Curtis Jenson (1986)
- Gordon Curtis Jensen (1986)
- Gerald E. Mockerman (1988)
- Jerry Edward Mockerman
- Lawrence William Vanner (2001 – 2002)

Other Alias Varations
- Jerry Edwards Gorman
- Ulos Jenson
- Curtis Rollin Kimball
- Don Vannerson

Footprints of a Serial Killer - NH1 WBIN
http://www.nh1.com/full-coverage/footprints-of-a-serial-killer/

New Hampshire murder suspect could’ve had ties to Austin
http://kxan.com/2017/01/26/new-hampshire-murder-suspect-couldve-had-ties-in-austin/
I think he was looking for work and living arrangements trying to figure where to go next.

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