Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 4 *Arrest*

[Granna6]

BBM
And when she said that, I said to myself that it is because you should always be careful, there are crazies everywhere, but as for the crazies involved here, they know who they are and they are being watched. Just MOO!

My thoughts exactly. It was like saying, "Well, you should always be alert, but in this situation, we don't have a crazed killer/predator on the streets preying on strangers."

 

[*~Aimee~*]

I agree they should do a tox screen. There are several little ones that someone slips them something and then we find out through tox reports - for instance Sandra Cantu (only 8) drugged by Melissa Huckaby. They can give her a drink of kool-aid laced with something and she would never suspect it if she trust someone. So they need to do the tox screen.

I think dotting all i's and crossing all t's is a good idea for LE to be able to prosecute the prep. They seem to be doing right - keeping tight lipped and doing their job.

Also last night on HLN shows I heard they thought she was placed upriver and drifted back down. I thought almost like she was trying to come home to her Daddy. So sad...

 

[Gardenlady]

Dontcha just love the way the media spins things. Wanna see one better?

The Boston Herald is reporting "Autopsy can’t find cause of NH girl’s death" as a headline!

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/r...e_of_nh_girls_death/srvc=home&position=recent

IMO the Herald tends to be sensationalistic. For print news in Boston, stick with the Globe.

 

[sreshowtime]

PENDING PENDING!! what do these news peeps not understand about PENDING fer crying out loud!

good grief they are making it sound like LE shuffled out bleary eyed and wiping their nose, going 'I dunno'

 

[kelian36]

A source is telling a Boston CBS station (WBZ) that the SF "has been questioned by police, and has been uncooperative." What could this mean, and is it the reason the press conference was delayed? Okay, why would he be uncooperative when the impression has been given that he has cooperated all along? My guess is that he is being uncooperative in answering questions that the autopsy brought up. Ideas?

Imo, uncooperative means not truthful. It can be something as simple as not remembering the time he last saw Celina or something as big as not answering any questions or not giving a DNA sample. I'm just sick that another child has died.

 

[Melanie]

So I'm assuming it didn't show she drowned.

I think that's a safe assumption. Remember the first presser where the SA said that Celina was placed in the water; not found in the water.

That's very telling to me.

MOO

Mel

 

[karen in New York]

This is pure speculation on my part:

Observation in the water: wrapped as several others have said...perhaps weighed down also?

Observation out of the water: I'm thinking hands bound? gagged? a ligature?....something they could tell just by looking that Celina did not go into the water voluntarily or by accident but was, as she said yesterday, PUT into the water....

Being in the water for so many days, how will that affect evidence and the cause of death?

 

[HRCODEPINK]

IMO the Herald tends to be sensationalistic. For print news in Boston, stick with the Globe.

LOL! I don't normally read the BH. I was actually just refreshing the news search on Google and saw that on the top and thought WTH? No one said that!! Amazing what they will put out there.

 

[kelian36]

BBM

There's a big clue...................

chaaa chinngg

 

[Pensfan]

Point of interest-The hospital where WN was transported yesterday was Upper Connecticut Valley Hospital. It was the nearest hospital. This facility is a 16 (yes, sixteen) bed med-surg hospital.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Dontcha just love the way the media spins things. Wanna see one better?

The Boston Herald is reporting "Autopsy can’t find cause of NH girl’s death" as a headline!

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/r...e_of_nh_girls_death/srvc=home&position=recent

This part gives me pause.

Police said there was no sign of a struggle and there was no indication she ran away or someone took her.

 

[peace9274]

Anyone know where MsF is?

I wanna know what numbers to play.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

This part gives me pause.

Police said there was no sign of a struggle and there was no indication she ran away or someone took her.

Yup! They have been saying that for days.

 

[katydid23]

But my gawd - WHY! Why would anyone want to drug an 11 year old, kill her, and dump her in a river.

My question will always be why -- no matter how Celina died.



Mel

Sadly, being an incest survivor, I feel like I have the answer to that question. The urge to rape a young child in the home is often impossible for some pedophiles to resist.

Sometimes I think the only reason my uncle didn't kill me was because he like the convenience of having me sleeping just down the hall.

 

[epiphany]

Dontcha just love the way the media spins things. Wanna see one better?

The Boston Herald is reporting "Autopsy can’t find cause of NH girl’s death" as a headline!

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/r...e_of_nh_girls_death/srvc=home&position=recent

Similar headline as WMUR9 New Hampshire:

"Autopsy Can't Find Celina's Cause Of Death"

http://www.wmur.com/news/28746555/detail.html

 

[Pensfan]

Anyone know where MsF is?

I wanna know what numbers to play.

Good question. Maybe she is being kept away from WN.

 

[Ada]

I'm so sad that we lost beautiful Celina. In that picture of her, in the hat, she reminds me of a young Gena Davis.

I was just pondering what it takes to kill a child. An 11 year old child. It wasn't so long ago (ok it was long ago for me and others here ) that we were 11 years old. Don't know about the rest of you, but, I spent my days having death defying fun. Climbing trees, exploring the woods and swamps, jumping off of tall stuff just because, taking boats out on the water to explore the waterways, diving into the waves at the beach. Nothing was going to harm us. We were mighty.

How does someone kill something as brave and willfully strong as a child.

I dunno, I'm just heartbroken and rambling.

 

[shefner]

I don't think I agree... to be diagnosed with Schizophrenia, one has to show dellusions/hallucinations for a period greater than 6 months...

Everyone can have a psycotic episode triggered by depression, stress and specially drugs. However, in Schizophrenia, the psycotic episodes are recurrent and not necessarily triggered by anything.

It is also a disease that starts when the individual is very young... They demonstrate a schizoid personality - those distant, introverted kids who have a very hard time forging emotional/social connections.

Not all shy kids are going to develop schizophrenia, however, it is very rare that a extrovert kid that is full of friends will develop the disease.

Like depression and other mental illnesses, there are varying levels of the disease. Some people are able to function very well and have mild attacks, while others are almost incapacitated.

Just curious, are you trained in schizophrenia? I was not before my adult son became ill. My training came quickly and painfully through personal experience.

My son has NEVER had hallucinations....never heard voices....but was still very sick when he experienced his first psychotic episode over 2 years ago. Others followed and they sometimes did have "triggers."

Our son was very outgoing, fun-loving, and popular while in school. He was fully engaged in numerous activities, including sports and student government. He was voted by his peers as the "Wittiest Senior" and served as the school mascot. But he still developed schizophrenia.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. But like most schizophrenics, he does not accept that he has a mental illness and does not feel the need for medication. Right now, he is experiencing a fairly good period. But he still struggles with all forms of social adaptation. He does not take direction. This is exactly as his psychiatrist explained to us. He also told us that our son may go years between episodes....and may never have an episode again. Many aspects of this illness are extremely unpredictable.

He did tell me this and I have never forgotten it:
This is the hardest thing you will ever have to deal with.

Bingo.

 

[Magdalyn]

PENDING PENDING!! what do these news peeps not understand about PENDING fer crying out loud!

good grief they are making it sound like LE shuffled out bleary eyed and wiping their nose, going 'I dunno'

:floorlaugh: Thank you, the visual you gave made me laugh and I sure needed it.

 

[Padua]

Just curious, are you trained in schizophrenia? I was not before my adult son became ill. My training came quickly and painfully through personal experience.

My son has NEVER had hallucinations....never heard voices....but was still very sick when he experienced his first psychotic episode over 2 years ago. Others followed and they sometimes did have "triggers."

Our son was very outgoing, fun-loving, and popular while in school. He was fully engaged in numerous activities, including sports and student government. He was voted by his peers as the "Wittiest Senior" and served as the school mascot. But he still developed schizophrenia.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. But like most schizophrenics, he does not accept that he has a mental illness and does not feel the need for medication. Right now, he is experiencing a fairly good period. But he still struggles with all forms of social adaptation. He does not take direction. This is exactly as his psychiatrist explained to us. He also told us that our son may go years between episodes....and may never have an episode again. Many aspects of this illness are extremely unpredictable.

He did tell me this and I have never forgotten it:
This is the hardest thing you will ever have to deal with.

Bingo.

You don't have to have hallucinations or delusions to be diagnosed with schizophrenia.