Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 6 *Arrest*

[mck16]

So Celina was reported missing. They came in to the home and searched. Then Celina was found and they came back. AG said they came back based on things they found after she was located and autopsied.

They removed 2 trucks. Now I would think they are doing all kinds of testing on the trucks. Maybe found DNA that will have to be tested. Maybe found other evidence we have not been told about.

I think we are waiting on the testing of the trucks. I don't think they have any proof or they would have made an arrest. Am I missing something? tia

 

[Granna6]

The content of the comments regarding KM made by "b" following this article have also been stated in the "Justice for Celina" facebook group by a local FB member.

Oh my goodness! Those comments are HUGE, if true, and throw a whole new light on this case! I had never heard any of this before. Washed sheets? KM driving around town in the wee morning hours? Community members thought of him first? I think I read that his priors included wrecking vehicles. My first thought is that reckless driving/speeding could be a result of being high. I wonder if this potential suspect has/does use drugs?

 

[mck16]

A lot of the more "original" dwellings in Coos County are big.
I grew up understanding that Coos was popular to the "rich influential" society because of the minerals in the numerous natural springs in the area... The women thought the waters had properties that would minimize age progression. I have searched the web to verify this, but have come up dry... But I still envision the "rich" socialites communing here to keep themselves beautiful... With this in mind, in more Victorian times, this house would have been exquisite.
http://www.nh.searchroots.com/coos.html#history
has some interesting information regarding NH's North Country and the weather/environmental stats...please keep in mind how large & how much Coos County accounts of NH.

I believe you are correct. This house reminds me of the vacation mansions all along the coastal highway. I drove up coastal 95 into Maine and I could not believe the houses along the beach. They looked like hotels.

 

[BeanE]

Do we have any verified locals on this thread?

I don't see any in the verified thread:
Professional Posters & Verified Locals/Insiders - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[bstnh1]

I wonder if B has any inside info or if it is just wild rumors. I hope there are some solid pieces of evidence in this case. I really do.

I read through all of B's comments and quite frankly, I don't believe him. There are too many details in his remarks for not a single one of them to have come out in the press or on another comment board.

 

[hollyblue]

The house looks big even if it is a duplex.........
WHY did CC have to sleep in the basement?
CC slept on the COUCH?
Reminded me of Hailey Dunn.............

This whole case reminds a lot of HD's. Down to the friend on KM's FB with the satanic avatar and his liking of SlipKnot. Very troubling. IMO

 

[miabellamoure]

The house looks big even if it is a duplex.........
WHY did CC have to sleep in the basement?
CC slept on the COUCH?
Reminded me of Hailey Dunn.............

Possibly for the added income of renting out the girls bedroom to KM...?

 

[katydid23]

Link to picture of KM and CC
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10008784-5.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Is it just me, or do they look exactly like brother and sister?

 

[gitana1]

So Celina was reported missing. They came in to the home and searched. Then Celina was found and they came back. AG said they came back based on things they found after she was located and autopsied.

They removed 2 trucks. Now I would think they are doing all kinds of testing on the trucks. Maybe found DNA that will have to be tested. Maybe found other evidence we have not been told about.

I think we are waiting on the testing of the trucks. I don't think they have any proof or they would have made an arrest. Am I missing something? tia

Yes. The one thing I think you may be missing is that just because there isn't an immediate arrest does not mean there is no proof.

My hunch is that this one is a going to be solved. But it takes awhile to get forensic results back and to tie together a solid case to take to a jury.

And in some cases, it could mean there is tons of proof but not enough yet to sustain a conviction.

Lack of an arrest never means there is zero proof. I heard that on the Kyron threads a lot and it made me crazy!

 

[iamnotagolem]

Is it just me, or do they look exactly like brother and sister?

I noticed that, too. Also wondered if we have a time line on when LCN was involved w/KM's dad.

 

[cluciano63]

Yes. The one thing I think you may be missing is that just because there isn't an immediate arrest does not mean there is no proof.

My hunch is that this one is a going to be solved. But it takes awhile to get forensic results back and to tie together a solid case to take to a jury.

And in some cases, it could mean there is tons of proof but not enough yet to sustain a conviction.

Lack of an arrest never means there is zero proof. I heard that on the Kyron threads a lot and it made me crazy!

Well...the longer that one goes unsolved/uncharged and Kyron remains unfound...the more I believe there really IS no evidence...JMO

 

[gitana1]

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Well...the longer that one goes unsolved/uncharged and Kyron remains unfound...the more I believe there really IS no evidence...JMO

Not me. There's no body and that can make it hard to bring a good, solid case to a jury. It's easy to arrest on probable cause grounds given certain proof but it can be much harder to (using that same proof), allow for a finding of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I doubt investigators in Kyron's case would have persisted for so, so long in clearly focusing on one, main individual if there was absolutely no proof.

Luckily, in Celina's case, her body was found - and fast. I believe there is a ton of evidence in her case and I believe that evidence is going to lead to arrests soon.

 

[katydid23]

I read through all of B's comments and quite frankly, I don't believe him. There are too many details in his remarks for not a single one of them to have come out in the press or on another comment board.

I am going to have to agree. Wouldn't he be under arrest if even half of those things were true?

I used to work in a high school. My first year there I made the mistake of believing the things kids told me about other kids. I learned that lesson fast. Rumors Run Rampant. But the thing is sometimes the seed of the idea is correct. imoo

 

[lauramags]

I don't see any in the verified thread:
Professional Posters & Verified Locals/Insiders - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Nope, no verified Locals...only people who wish they were here...LOL!!! Why would any locals verify themselves anyhow, NH voted for McCain remember, we are republicans. Unless you've read Ayn Rand that is....ha ha ha ... even if someone were verified "local" what would that mean with regards to a state that you can drive in 4.5 hours tip to tip mean???
Seriously, This part of NH wouldn't even have "locals" with high speed internet access now would they...duh

 

[nosysw]

Just to be clear...no one has stated that Celina was a special education student or developmentally delayed...or that an IEP would inherently allow grade modifications...just that she was apparently retained or started school late...while it is rare for a special education student to be retained, sometimes students are retained and still lag behind their peers and subsequently are classified for special education under one of any number of disabling conditions...

I work in an inner city and students grades are routinely modified due to their disability...and, yes, some of them are classified as having a learning disability. Although special education has federal guidelines, individual states do have their own codes which can vary considerably as long as they don't contradict the federal guidelines/restrictions...

 

[HRCODEPINK]

Not me. There's no body and that can make it hard to bring a good, solid case to a jury. It's easy to arrest on probable cause grounds given certain proof but it can be much harder to (using that same proof), allow for a finding of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I doubt investigators in Kyron's case would have persisted for so, so long in clearly focusing on one, main individual if there was absolutely no proof.

Luckily, in Celina's case, her body was found - and fast. I believe there is a ton of evidence in her case and I believe that evidence is going to lead to arrests soon.

BBM
I totally agree here. If what we are hearing from MSM is true and she was wrapped, it is not easy to wrap a body--especially in a blanket--and not leave evidence. I am not giving up hope! Sometimes it takes a couple weeks to get all of their ducks in a row, but JY is really good and I have faith.

With that, I am off to get the kiddos to bed. BBL!

 

[bstnh1]

I am going to have to agree. Wouldn't he be under arrest if even half of those things were true?

I used to work in a high school. My first year there I made the mistake of believing the things kids told me about other kids. I learned that lesson fast. Rumors Run Rampant. But the thing is sometimes the seed of the idea is correct. imoo

Yes, especially the story about finding sheets in the dumpster next door. The press would certainly have noticed that.

 

[Magdalyn]

AL could have been a neglectfully absentee dad (albeit possibly with some excuse due to poor health). But that does not mean that upon learning of his daughter's death, he didn't reassess his more recent attempts to contact his kids and found that in context, mom's excuses as to why they could not see him, now seem fishy. It is possible and given that a beautiful little girl has been found dead and we are receiving almost nothing from LE about what happened or what they have discovered, I would say that anything said by any of the family members could be significant and should not be taken with a grain of salt. Until we know all the facts about all the players and family members, they can help to paint a picture right now.

Respectfully snipped for space.

First, thank you much for your insight. I wanted to thank you twice! :tyou:


Second, I'm not sure why bio dad is getting jumped on about much of anything. He was in a coma/in the hospital when Celina went missing making him about the only person we can rule out conclusively. He has nothing to gain by pointing the finger at the wrong person. Whether he was involved much in his daughter's life or not, he has nothing to gain by bad-mouthing anyone unless he is realizing he should have voiced his concerns sooner and wants to get his 13 year old out of that house ... and he wants to get the right person/people behind bars. MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

Rumors usually have some bit of truth...or at least that has been true in many cases here. FWIW

 

[iamnotagolem]

Is it possible that Celina was a grade behind b/c they moved a lot? I'm assuming they moved w/the marriages/divorces of her mother.