NH NH - Elizabeth Marriott, 19, Durham, 9 Oct 2012 - # 7 *S. Mazzaglia guilty*

[Skigirl]

Some of this more clinical, dry testimony must at least be a relief for LM's family.

 

[zoey]

We will pause our stream while the trial is on break.

by KC Downey/WMUR Staff 7:01 AM


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A break is called when the State says they've gotten ahead of themselves, the Judge telling the jury that he has other pressing matters so this will be a full fifteen minutes. When they leave, he calls both legal teams to the bench for a conference. Judge Steven Houran has been consistently congenial throughout this case, even at the most tense and dramatic moments.

by Jen Crompton/WMUR 7:02 AM


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[AnnieMagnolia]

IIRC the defense doesn't dispute the fact that SM was in the car with Kat, so why do we need this witness?

I was thinking they wanted someone to corroborate KM's lame testimony. So she ran over the phone and GPS and admitted to it. Doesn't make everything she said true.

 

[HauntsForHope]

IIRC the defense doesn't dispute the fact that SM was in the car with Kat, so why do we need this witness?

To verify the previous testimony, that the Tom Tom GPS and Apple I-phone were removed.

 

[geevee]

To verify the previous testimony, that the Tom Tom GPS and Apple I-phone were removed.

And also I think because one of Kat's fingerprints was found in the car.

 

[04009margaret]

Attorney Barth has major issues to overcome in the story that Kat told him in his office. As per his opening statement he wants the jury to believe that it was Kat that killed Lizzie, using breath control during BDSM gone wrong. For this to happen, the jury has to believe that Lizzie willingly agreed to be tied up in a rope harness & have a collar that restricted movement put around her neck, they also have to believe that she allowed Kat & Seth to have consensual sex with her. Lizzie from all accounts was in a committed relationship with her girlfriend & was eager to make new friends. How does Barth get the jury to buy the story that Lizzie was a willing participant in this sex play, before it all went tragically wrong, I just don’t see him overcoming this hurdle. Whatever happened that night, Lizzie was not a willing participant; therefore his client did rape & played a part in the murder of Lizzie. Sorry Barth, I’m not buying what you’re selling, Kat & Seth are both guilty of murder.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

And also I think because one of Kat's fingerprints was found in the car.

According to kat didn't seth have on gloves and commanded kat to put on a pair while still in the apt?

 

[geevee]

According to kat didn't seth have on gloves and commanded kat to put on a pair while still in the apt?

That's what she said, but I read in one of the articles that one of her prints was found in the car (apparently the one this officer mentioned) so she must have removed them at some point.

 

[angiefly2]

Attorney Barth has major issues to overcome in the story that Kat told him in his office. As per his opening statement he wants the jury to believe that it was Kat that killed Lizzie, using breath control during BDSM gone wrong. For this to happen, the jury has to believe that Lizzie willingly agreed to be tied up in a rope harness & have a collar that restricted movement put around her neck, they also have to believe that she allowed Kat & Seth to have consensual sex with her. Lizzie from all accounts was in a committed relationship with her girlfriend & was eager to make new friends. How does Barth get the jury to buy the story that Lizzie was a willing participant in this sex play, before it all went tragically wrong, I just don’t see him overcoming this hurdle. Whatever happened that night, Lizzie was not a willing participant; therefore his client did rape & played a part in the murder of Lizzie. Sorry Barth, I’m not buying what you’re selling, Kat & Seth are both guilty of murder.

While I agree with you 100% (I'm going to play devil's advocate here) people cheat on their significant others all the time. Just a thought. I don't believe LM willingly participated either. It will be interesting to see just how Barth approaches this subject. JMO

 

[Nymeria]

If the condom matches Seth's DNA then I'm sure it will be introduced. The state has certainly not finished their case.

Yes, I am just wondering which of Kats stories claimed he was not wearing one.
Was it the first story, or the second "true" story (GJ test.).

So much has gone on already I keep forgetting we still have actual evidence not yet introduced and the entire Defense case still

Morn all :seeya: On a break?

 

[Xara]

That's what she said, but I read in one of the articles that one of her prints was found in the car (apparently the one this officer mentioned) so she must have removed them at some point.

She was in Lizzi's car on the 2nd as well. I didn't catch where the fingerprint was found, but could it have been from then?

 

[angiefly2]

Yes Nymeria, a 15 minute break.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

That's what she said, but I read in one of the articles that one of her prints was found in the car (apparently the one this officer mentioned) so she must have removed them at some point.

And it is the basic wrongness in a number of kat's details that infuriate me.

Who dons gloves in a murder and disposal of a body but take one or both off when driving the MURDERED girl's car to a location in an attempt to throw LE off? :banghead:

So throw LE off your scent but invite them to the party by leaving your calling card (fingerprints) there?

 

[geevee]

Yes, I am just wondering which of Kats stories claimed he was not wearing one.
Was it the first story, or the second "true" story (GJ test.).

So much has gone on already I keep forgetting we still have actual evidence not yet introduced and the entire Defense case still

Morn all :seeya: On a break?

'Morning Ny, yep, on break, and judge said he had a couple behind-the-scene matters to attend to so it would be the full 15 minutes (which has lengthened a bit but I hear audio now).

 

[Lori59]

She was in Lizzi's car on the 2nd as well. I didn't catch where the fingerprint was found, but could it have been from then?

Wasn't that where KM met her down and they drove to the back to park her car??? KM testified that when she went to look for her car on the 9th she had parked in the same spot...... Thanks for the reminder!

 

[zoey]

The trial has resumed.

by KC Downey/WMUR Staff 7:28 AM


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[Nymeria]

Littleone thanks for your insight but on this we will have to agree to to disagree. I have been watching also, just not from the courtroom.

I am not sure where all of these law students are sitting as there seems to be no one in the seats behind SM? Can you expand please?

I sure wish you would get verified, otherwise I will take your statements about SM as just your opinion.

*BBM*

Not sure if this has been answered yet, I am coming in late today.
Sometimes they show a witness walking in or out....and the viewing section for the trial is WAYYYYYYYY back behind the Pros. And Def. tables.
Maybe about 25 feet or so between them?
I too though no one was attending this trial until I saw that section, it was actually pretty filled up.

 

[zoey]

Brian Barbato is on the stand ... lives at Sawyer Mill Apts... been there for 4 years, with his wife. He's an assistant football coach at UNH.

by Jen Crompton/WMUR 7:29 AM


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[turaj]

Yes, I am just wondering which of Kats stories claimed he was not wearing one.
Was it the first story, or the second "true" story (GJ test.).

So much has gone on already I keep forgetting we still have actual evidence not yet introduced and the entire Defense case still

Morn all :seeya: On a break?

I know it was said that he did not wear one as he raped Lizzie when she was dead. It was mentioned I believe to reinforce the horrific nature of his acts and his state of mind. He always used one except that time. Probably what was found was from another time after with Kat.

 

[geevee]

She was in Lizzi's car on the 2nd as well. I didn't catch where the fingerprint was found, but could it have been from then?

I didn't catch him saying it either but I thought I'd read it was near or on the driver's side door.