NH NH - Elizabeth Marriott, 19, Durham, 9 Oct 2012 - # 9 *S. Mazzaglia guilty*

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  • #321
Here's another one of KM's accounts, maybe more recent?

http://prancinginneverland.tumblr.com

"About: Sometimes known as Scarlet Tempest, but only sometimes. I'm an artist, who fell off her path, and is now trying to find the right song to dance to."

It's such a shame she got caught up with that monster. km threw away what could have been a beautiful life. Seems she was very talented. :facepalm:
Do you think she's gonna get rich and famous off this? I sure hope not... but people are nuts.
 
  • #322
I know absolutely nothing about Tumblr...that particular trend has totally passed me by. But, on July 25, there's a plain text post (instead of a 'reblog', which most of her posts are), that says "Going away for a little bit, set up a lovely queue! Mwahahahahaha". Maybe the queue does automatic posting for a time? 'Mwahhahaha" seems like such a weird way to address heading off to prison. I could be wrong, but maybe that is why it continued for a month and then stopped.

http://prancinginneverland.tumblr.com/archive/2013/7
 
  • #323
It's such a shame she got caught up with that monster. km threw away what could have been a beautiful life. Seems she was very talented. :facepalm:
Do you think she's gonna get rich and famous off this? I sure hope not... but people are nuts.

She's a strange combination of child-like and very sexualized. She loves kitty cats, and October in New England, and pretty jewelry, and silly jokes, and Harry Potter.. and fetish gear, victorian ladies boots, corsets, etc. So many of her posts reflect that she was really just out of her teens when this happened.
 
  • #324
According to that fosters article the def has 7 witnesses on their list. Only three have been mentioned:
The Connecticut doctor, his mother and AF.

I keep trying to think of who the other four are. So far all I have come up with is Seth's video game friend maybe?

Any educated guesses?
 
  • #325
I'm thinking the owner of the Karate studio where he gave classed.
 
  • #326
According to that fosters article the def has 7 witnesses on their list. Only three have been mentioned:
The Connecticut doctor, his mother and AF.

I keep trying to think of who the other four are. So far all I have come up with is Seth's video game friend maybe?

Any educated guesses?

Maybe someone from theatrical group.
 
  • #327
It will be interesting to hear what Andrea Foster has to say? Surprised she's on the defense's list. Wasn't she suppose to have been Kat's friend who was suppose to come that night at 10:00 and texted Kat she was at her grandmother's ?
 
  • #328
I would think his point will be that the ropes of the harness and whichever ones they were pulling would cause the strangulation-like swelling of the face and purple discoloration.

One of the reasons I believe Kat's first rendition (to the defense) rather than her Grand Jury testimony is because of the way she describes Lizzi dying, the only movements she relates that Lizzi made at all in the GJ was the inwards facing of the tops of her feet and her hands/wrists pulling up near her bust - that is simply unbelievable (esp. since Lizzi was sitting up at the time) and tells me she's never seen a person actually be strangled.

At the very least the victim is going to grab at the rope around their neck, do anything to try and get the hands or rope off of them, kick their feet and make more noise than a 'small yelp', but none of a typical struggle is in Kat's second story. Her first story is much more believable, whether Lizzi was in the harness/ropes voluntarily or not isn't the issue, the description of Lizzi having a seizure due to lack of oxygen and then Kat seeing the prone position with feet facing inward and hands/wrists pulled up seems quite reasonable.

I don't see that there should have ever been a disagreement over marks on Lizzi's neck, the statement to the defense makes clear there were ropes in her neck area being pulled (as well as the harness strung so it would decrease oxygen if her head is moved forward) so I think in either case marks would be likely to be seen on her neck, so for me that is a waste of time trying to prove/disprove that.

I've been thinking about the bags, why one and moreso why two; those bags are rather thin and see-through, and two would be necessary so not to be able to see what they're covering. If Kat was annoyed at seeing Seth with Lizzi (since Lizzi was supposed to be her 'dark haird lady') she simply didn't want to be able to see her face any longer, discolored or not, it wasn't the face of Kat's dark haired lady, it was the one who had had sex with her man.

I'll buy that one, geev, all day & all night -- it makes total sense.

I, like many, do not believe she would have agreed to anything in the least bit sexual with KM and/or SM -- I don't even see her willing to play strip poker.

She was in a committed relationship with an attractive, sensible and caring woman. LM's parents approved of her partner & their relationship, and they considered her part of their family. LM and her partner were in what seems to me to be a solid relationship and they were close from what I heard testified, and I can't imagine LM being in any way attracted to SM. KM had prolly told her that SM was her guy, etc., so I just don't see any permutation of LM being sexually curious about or attracted to either of them or a threesome in any way. If she was strung up, it was either because she was drugged, or because she was forced (duct tape on her mouth?). Your scenario, IMO, is prolly very close to what happened.

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  • #329
I know absolutely nothing about Tumblr...that particular trend has totally passed me by. But, on July 25, there's a plain text post (instead of a 'reblog', which most of her posts are), that says "Going away for a little bit, set up a lovely queue! Mwahahahahaha". Maybe the queue does automatic posting for a time? 'Mwahhahaha" seems like such a weird way to address heading off to prison. I could be wrong, but maybe that is why it continued for a month and then stopped.

http://prancinginneverland.tumblr.com/archive/2013/7

BBM

Not if you know you're getting away with murder (or 18 months shy of getting away with it), it doesn't. :facepalm:
 
  • #330
Originally Posted by sassyblue
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  • #331
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Good Morning my lovelies
Giving thanks today for a blessed life.
Enjoy this glorious day!

Then, back in court tomorrow, to get Justice for Lizzie.
<3
 
  • #332
It will be interesting to hear what Andrea Foster has to say? Surprised she's on the defense's list. Wasn't she suppose to have been Kat's friend who was suppose to come that night at 10:00 and texted Kat she was at her grandmother's ?

I think you mean Andie (andrea) Fowler a friend of Kat's...and yes she was going to come over that night but lucky for her did not. This indicates to me the whole defense is hinging on Kat and I would guess they will use her to go after Kat's credibility again. More reasonable (or not) doubt.
 
  • #333
yep that is her....friend from high school...no doubt will say that Kat is not the type to be dominated by a guy etc etc. it does sound like Kat was no wall flower in high school...I am undecided if the family issues were really so much of a non event at her mother made them out to be or if more probably some of it did happen and it is just now that her mother is understanding how much it impacted her daughter. No matter what is to be said of Kat...she has serious mental issues and if she and her mother were as close as the mother thought...well she really missed it or as is usually the case did not want to see what was going on. Clearly her daughter was living with her during a number of months leading up to when she moved...she was dating Seth and yet the mother seemed to know nothing. I don't think she was coming home at night and sorry but a kid in high school not coming home at night needs to checked up on. I think the mother said she was at friends but never checked. Also she has an online presence all over the web and mom never felt the need to check up on that? Parents today are often so wrapped up in their own stuff that kids can just cruise along until big problems arise...and in this case very big problems. Not blaming the mother but rather trying to understand what happened here. It is amazing the duel personalities many kids have with parents/family and then out in the world. As a mother it is scary!!
 
  • #334
“He said that he tried a 'little bit of the asphyxiation and she was okay,' that he 'did it a little harder and she was okay,' but during his climax he 'pulled a little tighter and she began to seize' and then she stopped breathing,” public defenders Joachim Barth and Melissa Davis wrote.

This was said before court started ^.

In an affidavit for Mazzaglia's arrest submitted to the court by Pettingill, the detective writes that Mazzaglia told them he did not render Marriott any aid. During a time when he was not sure of whether Marriott was dead or not, Mazzaglia placed a plastic grocery bag over her heard.

These are clips from this story before the trial even started.

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20140527/GJNEWS_01/140529471/0/SEARCH
 
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I wonder why he wasn't read his rights sooner? I don't really believe his initial story, but it would've been nice for the jury to be able to hear him taking responsibility.

I have no idea why they didn't read SM his rights. I am have not been able to find anything about that yet. I am just as anxious as anyone to hear why.

imo
 
  • #337
This article explains KM charges and what they are charging SM with and why but no explanation about SM police interviews.

In Mazzaglia’s case, prosecutors have laid out three different theories of the murder. One first-degree murder count alleges Mazzaglia “purposely” strangled Marriott to death with a rope. Under state law, “purposely’’ is defined as meaning the actor’s conscious object is the death of another, and that the killing was deliberate and premeditated.

Another first-degree murder charge asserts Mazzaglia “knowingly” caused Marriott’s death in the course of a sexual assault. He was also indicted on a second-degree murder charge, which alleges he “recklessly” caused Marriott’s death with extreme indifference to the value of human life.

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130727/GJNEWS_01/130729375/0/SEARCH

This was just a clip, you will have to read the rest of the article at the link, to get the full understanding. imo
 
  • #338
I have no idea why they didn't read SM his rights. I am have not been able to find anything about that yet. I am just as anxious as anyone to hear why.

imo

IIRC they began questioning him as a missing persons investigation. Once he started giving them information, things shifted. I think the judge allowed everything up to the point sm asked for an attorney. I bet his 'confession' was a lie anyway. Likely the same one the defense is telling..imo

"After a suppression hearing in February, Judge Kenneth Brown found that Mazzaglia should have been read his Miranda rights at 7:20 p.m. on Oct. 12, 2012 after he drew a map to Peirce Island, showing New Hampshire State Police where Marriott's body was located. That was hours before Mazzaglia confessed to his involvement in the killing."

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20140526/GJNEWS_01/140529503
 
  • #339
Seth and Kat live in an alternate reality. They are obsessive liars. I don't believe a word either of them says. Additionally, Roberta and Paul's stories don't sound one bit logical.

I think what this case boils down to is the one thing we know to be true, evidence: phone records, items found in the dumpster, at the apartment and location where Lizzi's body was pushed into the river.

These two are scum. I could never have one iota of sympathy for either of them. I hope the remainder of their lives are tortured, painful and miserable. May their teeth rot and fall out, their eyes blinded, their eardrums punctured, and their organs diseased.
 
  • #340
IIRC they began questioning him as a missing persons investigation. Once he started giving them information, things shifted. I think the judge allowed everything up to the point sm asked for an attorney. I bet his 'confession' was a lie anyway. Likely the same one the defense is telling..imo

"After a suppression hearing in February, Judge Kenneth Brown found that Mazzaglia should have been read his Miranda rights at 7:20 p.m. on Oct. 12, 2012 after he drew a map to Peirce Island, showing New Hampshire State Police where Marriott's body was located. That was hours before Mazzaglia confessed to his involvement in the killing."

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20140526/GJNEWS_01/140529503


Thanks Haunts for that article I had to leave and just now got back. There is so much more information in that story.

Brown decided that the prosecution can use the first three hours of police interviews with Mazzaglia, and the physical evidence they derived from the interview on the theory that they would have found it anyway; but it remains unclear whether Mazzaglia's confession can or will ever be used in court. Pretrial motions suggest that if Mazzaglia's defense team refers to the suppressed statements or if he takes the stand in his own defense that perhaps that would open the door for the prosecution to use Mazzaglia's confession against him.

I snipped this from the same reference and according to this if the defense goes beyond that the suppressed information can be questioned by the state. ( as bbm) imo


I hope I stated this all right, sometimes I confuse myself. lol
 
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