GUILTY NH - Kimberly Cates, 42, dead, 11yo girl maimed, Mont Vernon, 4 Oct 2009

[Fairy1]

why am I not surprised ...

http://www.hudsonpd.com/offender/offender.html

??? Who are you seeing here?

 

[LadyL]

In February, another man told police that Spader threatened to kill him, before abducting his daughter and holding her in a car trunk for days. The girl was said to be Spader's 'sometimes' girlfriend. The father was trying to end the relationship.

http://wbztv.com/local/newhampshire/steven.spader.kim.2.1234653.html

what???????? and the charges wouldn't hold???????

 

[amysmom]

??? Who are you seeing here?

WILLIAM B. MARKS??

(father of one of the perps?--look half-way down)

ETA..father of perp William Marks is James

 

[amysmom]

Pair sold jewelry hours after slaying

http://www.theunionleader.com/artic...rticleId=7c1867d2-564f-4509-a4d7-49e16c82ca64

 

[amysmom]

Seriously injured 11-year-old called 911

http://www.theunionleader.com/artic...rticleId=a020b403-f684-466b-ac01-d36241a6e58f

 

[amysmom]

These boys and the boys that killed Keighley Alyea down in KS all look the same - like a bunch of skinheads - and they're all the same ages. WTH is going on with these kids? I have a son this age and he wouldn't hurt a fly! I just don't understand where this kind of cold-blooded rage and utter disregard for human life comes from. Something is terribly, terribly wrong.

Psychologist: NH Boys Showed Signs Of Violence

http://wbztv.com/local/newhampshire/mother.murdered.mont.2.1234133.html

 

[thesaint]

"Neighbor Yuki Chorney said she noticed a green utility truck parked at the Cates’ home last week."

http://www.unionleader.com/pda-article.aspx?articleId=adebed4a-86e4-4b29-838c-e65d632ecc83

Also, David Cates', the husband / father of the victims, was a military contractor. Wonder if he was ex, retired or reserve military as well.

The Gribble kid is wearing BDU's in court at his arraignment.

 

[amysmom]

is it just my imagination or is there a symbol razored into Glover's buzzcut?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/gallery/nh_killings?pg=3#end

hmmmm! kinda looks like circle with X inside?

 

[Boyz_Mum]

hmmmm! kinda looks like circle with X inside?

That's what I think I see too. Does a circle with an X inside have any significance? There was a punk rock band with the name of "Circle X", and I think that "circle X" is a brand marking (like on a ranch?)

 

[amysmom]

Witnesses: Car pulled from river

HOLLIS – State police investigating the murder of Mont Vernon mother and attempted murder of her young daughter this week pulled a car out of a secluded boat ramp beside the Nashua River after a two-day search of the site, two witnesses said yesterday.

We now know, from this article, who Autumn (Savoy, 19) is!

http://www.unionleader.com/article....rticleId=43c4ad0d-b6bc-4123-b676-08f538560388

 

[mitzi]

Pair sold jewelry hours after slaying

http://www.theunionleader.com/artic...rticleId=7c1867d2-564f-4509-a4d7-49e16c82ca64

From your link above:

"She said Gribble and Spader told her they were selling the jewelry to get some extra cash to have some fun."

I am sickened :sick:

 

[smart blonde]

hmmmm! kinda looks like circle with X inside?

It looks like a pentagram (?) shaved into his hair to me. Or, at least I think he wanted it to look like that well-known occult symbol.

It was stated in one of the articles that a female classmate had a necklace with this symbol, and he commented that he really liked it, and told her he had a necklace like her's.

It really makes me wonder if these guys were dabbling in Satanism to be 'cool'? It would say a lot about their mind-set.

 

[smart blonde]

I hadn't realized until reading all of the articles that they actually slit the 11 year old daughter's throat.

This wasn't, in my opinion, a 'burglery' culminating in murder. This was a Home Invasion with the specific intent of murder and robbery. Not sure why it seems to be an important distinction to me, but it is.

I am confused as to why only two of these young men are being charged with murder.

My reasoning concludes that all 4 of them should be charged with murder, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit robbery...

 

[soyesterday]

I came on to see if this story was posted.
I live in NH....so it's kinda close to home.
Ok i'm going to catch up on the reading here.

 

[SuziQ]

It looks like a pentagram (?) shaved into his hair to me. Or, at least I think he wanted it to look like that well-known occult symbol.

It was stated in one of the articles that a female classmate had a necklace with this symbol, and he commented that he really liked it, and told her he had a necklace like her's.

It really makes me wonder if these guys were dabbling in Satanism to be 'cool'? It would say a lot about their mind-set.

Yep, it's a Satanic Pentagram.

http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/pentagram.jpg

 

[RayStar]

I just learned this woman was married and well liked. Her husband was away on a business trip.

I'm still surprised there was no dog. In some reports on these teenagers, they are some heartless humans.

Now I will go back to read the thread.

 

[SuziQ]

why am I not surprised ...

http://www.hudsonpd.com/offender/offender.html

And two fairly recent offenses. What a positive role model he must be....

Criminal History:
Sexual Assault 632-A:4 Conviction Date: 9/23/2008
Sexual Assault 632-A:4 Conviction Date: 8/21/2006

 

[SuziQ]

Do we know who's car was pulled from the water?

 

[RayStar]

Do we know who's car was pulled from the water?

That's what I want to know. I thought I missed the connection in the article.

Just finished reading the thread and now I need a break.

 

[IWannaKnow]

Murder Of NH Mom & Attack On Daughter Was Random

http://wbztv.com/local/mother.murdered.mont.2.1230017.html

"The group picked a home to rob at random and agreed that if they ran into anyone, they would kill them, prosecutors told the court.

Two of the men allegedly walked into 42-year-old Kimberly Cates' home on Trow Road in Mont Vernon Sunday morning and stabbed her multiple times in her bed.

Cates' 11-year-old daughter Jaimie was found outside the house with a head injury, her throat cut and a broken leg."
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Article has a picture of the daughter and says under the photo she was found in the driveway. Confusing since another article I read said the responding P.O. had to break a door down and has a dislocated shoulder??? So, the daughter called 911 then ran out to the driveway and locked the door behind her? :waitasec: