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Since she had been reported missing in Florida, I think the dots would probably be connected today, even without DNA? Of course, many people reporting a missing relative would give DNA today.
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State reduces number of missing in Central Texas flooding from 161 to 101
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said the number of people now believed to be missing in catastrophic flooding near Kerr County is 97.www.nbcdfw.com
The total number of people missing includes 97 people from the greater Kerrville area and four others from flooding elsewhere in the state. Officials have not released the names of those reported to be missing.---grhh...
I've read about many Doe cases, and the victim doesn't always have issues with their family or is into things the family might want to distance themselves from, or even a free spirit who traveled a lot and sometimes didn't keep in contact, or a runaway, etc. Sometimes families don't follow up on a loved one's disappearence for other reasons than thinking they are out living their life somewhere, although Nancy's family kept that in their mind as a possibility, judging from the article about her being missing. Individuals and families respond differently to different things, and in ways which might not make sense to outsiders.
They did report her missing in Florida, which is more than some families did, or were able to do, given LE's attitudes towards missing people back in the day. It could just be the siblings were busy with their lives and it was only as they got older or maybe read something or heard something about DNA identifying people nowadays that they decided to take more action. Or they simply decided it had been long enough and wanted to address it better. I wonder if her original missing report included dental records? That was before DNA.
As you said about thinking of her while driving over the bridge, it gets you when you can really picture someone moving around locally.re: Sadly she didn't know she was in the land of pan-handling and very likely could have explained her situation and gotten a few dollars which would have gotten her the gas she needed.
Yeah, this is what struck me initially as so strange though, especially as she was from Long Island, and then Elmira...and being a young girl. Seems she should have figured out she could ask for help in rural VT? As we see from the way the judge behaved, they were inclined to help her even AFTER she did something criminal and crazy.....
I had not realized until you pointed it out that the car she stole also belonged to another young person. You have to wonder then why she didn't just ask him for help?
This is why I'm mulling over Nancy wanting to disappear, and maybe that is what she was attempting again when she left the halfway house?
As you said about thinking of her while driving over the bridge, it gets you when you can really picture someone moving around locally. I hope LE eventually learns more about her motivation for coming to VT and what happened to her.
i remember that too.There was also a flurry of LE activity at the house of the guy people locally refer to as the "Kellyville Killer" about a year ago. I do not think anything came of it in the end, at least not anything made public, but it was all over the news and caused QUITE the stir in the Newport/Claremont area while it was happening. (There should be articles linked in that thread, I remember following along when it was going on.)
I don't know what I think about all of it personally. As far as I know, that man was never arrested or anything. I think LE may have removed a few objects from the property, but again, it is a year later and I have not seen any updates.
Definitely good if the Cold Cases are all getting more attention and new people are working on them. I know with the Connecticut Valley Killer stuff, many feel it may have been a police officer.
I don't believe there was much effort identify Does back then.
Get dentals.
Check missing persons' files. (In this case, she probably wasn't in their database).
They didn't do much research beyond what was "on hand". They probably searched a bit harder if they felt fowl play was involved. But if they didn't have too many resources available.
They just didn't have the resources back then, so they didn't try that hard.
We don't know and most likely will never know if she was alone when she left Brat and as you said she could have hitchhiked, either from Brat or when she hit the bridge along Rt. 9 .This post, from her missing thread, says she tried to hitchhike earlier in Oct of 1973. Maybe she tried to hitchike again, to bad results. I wonder if she had decided Vermont wasn't for her and that she was going back to Florida before it got to be winter..
May 2024There was also a flurry of LE activity at the house of the guy people locally refer to as the "Kellyville Killer" about a year ago. I do not think anything came of it in the end, at least not anything made public, but it was all over the news and caused QUITE the stir in the Newport/Claremont area while it was happening. (There should be articles linked in that thread, I remember following along when it was going on.)
I don't know what I think about all of it personally. As far as I know, that man was never arrested or anything. I think LE may have removed a few objects from the property, but again, it is a year later and I have not seen any updates.
Definitely good if the Cold Cases are all getting more attention and new people are working on them. I know with the Connecticut Valley Killer stuff, many feel it may have been a police officer.
Not many unidentified women who are found dead in the woods left a recent legal, paper/personal trail 20 miles away.I don't believe there was much effort identify Does back then.
Get dentals.
Check missing persons' files. (In this case, she probably wasn't in their database).
They didn't do much research beyond what was "on hand". They probably searched a bit harder if they felt fowl play was involved. But if they didn't have too many resources available.
They just didn't have the resources back then, so they didn't try that hard.
Is it being assumed that the missing person report was filed in Florida because I've yet to read a state mentioned.They did report her missing in Florida, which is more than some families did, or were able to do, given LE's attitudes towards missing people back in the day. It could just be the siblings were busy with their lives and it was only as they got older or maybe read something or heard something about DNA identifying people nowadays that they decided to take more action.
I really do believe that the above is closer to the truth, as we hopefully will get closer to.
The family probably thought about it all the time, but just did not know what to do.
Back then, NOT being in touch for great lengths of time was just the norm. I taught at a private boys' school in NYS in the early 70s. We would have students "disappear" at times, and really just did not do much about it. Obviously calls to parents would be a given.... but not much beyond that. Usually they came back to the school.... but people did not question the absence.
BUT this confuses me:
Sister recalls her leaving with a duffel bag with some tall man.
They file a Missing Persons report in Florida.
Do we assume that the family had no idea she was heading North? And, they only learned this when they got the call about her stealing a car.
I was able to find some articles about the discovery of the remains back in April 1974.
"Skeleton Found In Marlborough," Keene Sentinel, 17 April 1974, pg. 2.
State and local authorities today are investigating a skeleton found Monday afternoon in a heavily-wooded section a half-mile off Route 124.
[The Cheshire County Attorney said officials] so far have been unable to determine the identity, age or sex of the remains [...]
O'Brien estimated that the body probably had been in the woods since last fall and said there was nothing to indicate foul play caused the victim's death.
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The skeleton came from the frame of a small person and had no clothing on it at the time of discovery.
"Skeleton Found In Marlborough," Brattleboro Reformer, 17 April 1974, pg. 3.
Officials were trying to identify the remains of a man found Tuesday by a college student in a wooded area.
"Skeleton Was Woman About 25," Keene Sentinel, 19 April 1974, pg. 2.
According to new information released by the detective bureau of the N.H. State Police, the woman was about 25 years old, was about 5 feet 4 inches tall and had dark reddish-brown hair.
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County Attorney Edward J. O'Brien repeated this morning that there is no indication foul play was involved in the woman's death.
Like in 1974, eh?I'd like to hope that LE put the dots together before me![]()
How did you connect the dot?I'd like to hope that LE put the dots together before me![]()
I searched for unidentified decedents in neighboring states with similar descriptions to Nancy.How did you connect the dot?
Great work.
Nancy's body was found in a wooded area off of RT 124 Marlborough .I used to work in Brattleboro and lived in Keene, so yes I can picture all of this....
Do we have any idea where she was found aside from "in the woods,off of Route 9 in Marlborough"? Anything more specific? I agree about the possibility of her hitchhiking, but where her body was found seems possible someone maybe dumped her over there thinking it was far enough away she might not be identified. Even though I agree with you that now at least the media all considers the general area to be fairly local AND LE should have considered Nancy all those years ago. Sigh.
IF she was trying to get a ride south towards Florida, or even to New York, the other end of Brattleboro makes more sense.
I put in Winchester Rd just to get the beginning of Rte 9 to appear in a map for people not familiar with the area to maybe get a feel for how her journey MAY have started. Elliott Street is the red arrow. I wonder if she was trying to head to White River Junction again? Or maybe Keene?
I am troubled by Nancy having been a nurse with dark hair. While she was clearly suffering from depression/stress, she fits the "Connecticut Valley Killer" victim profile.
If Nancy had wanted to hitchhike South, 91 S isn't farm from Elliot Street. (see below) Second image shows how close Massachusetts is, and then you could be in New York, etc. Going up to the bridge to hitch a ride to Florida doesn't make sense to me....I think something else happened. View attachment 601438 View attachment 601439
I was able to find some articles about the discovery of the remains back in April 1974.
"Skeleton Found In Marlborough," Keene Sentinel, 17 April 1974, pg. 2.
State and local authorities today are investigating a skeleton found Monday afternoon in a heavily-wooded section a half-mile off Route 124.
[The Cheshire County Attorney said officials] so far have been unable to determine the identity, age or sex of the remains [...]
O'Brien estimated that the body probably had been in the woods since last fall and said there was nothing to indicate foul play caused the victim's death.
[...]
The skeleton came from the frame of a small person and had no clothing on it at the time of discovery.
"Skeleton Found In Marlborough," Brattleboro Reformer, 17 April 1974, pg. 3.
Officials were trying to identify the remains of a man found Tuesday by a college student in a wooded area.
"Skeleton Was Woman About 25," Keene Sentinel, 19 April 1974, pg. 2.
According to new information released by the detective bureau of the N.H. State Police, the woman was about 25 years old, was about 5 feet 4 inches tall and had dark reddish-brown hair.
[...]
County Attorney Edward J. O'Brien repeated this morning that there is no indication foul play was involved in the woman's death.
Wow! Back in 2021, she was submitted by WSer.The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Thinking of submitting Nancy Gale Erickson as a match to Marlborough Jane Doe - I wish there was a photo of her, though.