True. Your post just made me of think of that Yale lab murder - Annie Le.I suppose. I am personally leaning more towards something outside of work, like an obsession with her or something along those lines.
True. Your post just made me of think of that Yale lab murder - Annie Le.I suppose. I am personally leaning more towards something outside of work, like an obsession with her or something along those lines.
"Daddy -daughter date ideas"? WTF. That whole Princess section is scary af
This is NYC2015 -- I can't remember my password to my account so this is other username. I have been away from the computer and felt I should sign on to Websleuths to see if anything new on justice for Carolyn and wow- on my homepage was prayers answered- "Arrest made in worker killed on lunchbreak" on NYPost. Thank GOD.
I will read up when I have more time but am just so glad and relieved police arrested the killer. Her family has justice. And I apologize to any LE for sounding harsh they were not making progress or giving residents peace of mind. It is clear now they were working their asses off the whole time. Sounds like the answers the cop gave to DAB at the community event were right on.
I remember writing early on that I assumed they looked at all of Carolyn's co-workers, especially the one who notified police she hadn't returned back to the office yet. I struck me that they should be looking at that person/people..since she rarely went home for work. I wonder if this creep is the one who notified LE or management that she never came back? (to make him look oh so innocent). Disgusting creep -- judge better throw him away for life.
Here is the link to see his multiple traffic violations. Just search by name and then enter Kenneth C Saal and then enter search. Click on the ticket you want to view and then click on view details. Municipal Court Case Search
Wow- this seriously surprises me and is so so scary. When I initially posted way back about police questioning co-workers, I thought to myself it sounds like a small newish type of marketing firm, probably a lot of mostly 20 - 30 somethings who are mostly all friends and hang out. He met his wife in high school. He seems to have lived a decent/normal life. What on earth made him do this? How does a wife who has known her husband for 11 years process this and someday tell their daughter? I wonder if they will ever find out, or release a motive.
Agreed. It makes sense. IMO it would have to have been an unplanned appt or delivery/signature-required since she didn't mention it, as far as we know, to any of her co-workers about having to go home for lunch -- which of course she wasn't required to do. Maybe she had called mgmt. about a repair that had to be done inside her apt., but seems like it would have had to have been pre-scheduled as well.This article Killer was waiting at apartment for 26-year-old woman murdered on her lunch break, sources say says she was “drawn (home) for some reason” which I accept isn’t exactly “lured”, but I do remember seeing that specific word used previously.
@borndem, given that she wasn’t accustomed to going home for lunch, it would be an awful coincidence to have an opportunistic attack. I think it had to be a trigger that would make her go to the effort of going home, such as a parcel being delivered, tradesman coming for repairs, etc. I’m guessing there was nothing noted in her diary/appointment book, which suggests she had a phone call on the day rather than a pre-arranged meeting.
Not that traffic tickets or the occasional speeding ticket over the course of several years typically equates to murderer.... but this does seem like a ridiculous number of citations and issues that is not the norm.Here is the link to see his multiple traffic violations. Just search by name and then enter Kenneth C Saal and then enter search. Click on the ticket you want to view and then click on view details. Municipal Court Case Search
My gut feeling is that she agreed to meet him at her apartment. No forced entry and LE are saying she was killed pretty much immediately upon entering, so my guess is they drove separately, he met her at the front door of her apartment (so the neighbours didn't see them together) and he was ready to strike as soon as the front door closed behind them. The police would know from the position of her body and even the position of her handbag that she hadn't managed to get very far before he killed her. He was probably very conscious of the time, and didn't want to waste time in the apartment - meet her there, kill her, clean up and then make his way back to work as quickly as possible.
It seems like a personal relationship and she had no fear of danger if she agreed to meet him at her apartment. It's probably also a logical place to meet if you are coworkers and don't want other coworkers to be aware that you are meeting.
What a damn waste. And why? What's wrong with people? He thought it would be a fun thing to follow her home and assault and murder her? What was the point? How did he think this would end?
Sick freaks. I'm tired of this. So senseless and demoralizing.
Trust me, as an adjunct prof (been there/done that) income payment is per class and is not the best income. And classes you can teach are limited. If you teach more than, say 3, you have to be considered full time and receive salary and benefits. And number of classes each semester are not guaranteed nor is whether a class will actually run or not, due to number of students signing up. fwiwI tend to agree. He knew where her apartment was, not just the complex but her actual door. He was able to get there quickly, on his lunch break. And she didn't tell anybody why she was going home? I think she purposely met him there and he had been there before.
Also, I found his wife's occupation and she probably made more money than he did. So maybe money wasn't a concern, or losing his job wasn't a concern. I am leaning toward personal relationship at this point, too.
Women can tend to deny the danger factor of a stalker especially if he's just this awkward guy at work who has a crush on her, and he's married anyway so of course even he knows nothing can happen between them. Maybe his "crush" escalated to the point where she did feel the need to discuss the issue with him directly - as a friend - and thought her apartment would be a safe discreet place to meet. It's not like she was meeting a stranger from Tinder at her apartment - this was a guy she had known for a considerable time at work, who knew that she was expected back at work by a certain time.
Trust me, as an adjunct prof (been there/don't that) payment if per class and are not the best income. And classes you can teach are limited. If you teach more than, say 3, you have to be considered full time and receive salary and benefits. And number of classes each semester are not guaranteed nor is whether a class will actually run or not, due to number of students signing up. fwiw
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