GUILTY NJ - Detective Joseph Seals, slain, 5 others killed including 2 suspects, Jersey City, 9 Dec 2019

[imstilla.grandma]

One of the “Black Hebrew Israelite” killers who targeted a Jewish grocery store in Jersey City left behind a handwritten note that said: “I do this because my creator makes me do this and I hate who he hates,” law enforcement sources told The Post.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/11/jerse...handwritten-note-my-creator-makes-me-do-this/

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Across the Hudson River, Mayor de Blasio announced yesterday that the New York Police Department had formed a new unitwithin its intelligence division, known as Racially and Ethnically Motivated Extremism.

The unit, which began operating this month, is primarily tasked with investigating terror threats from far-right and neo-Nazi organizations.

The Jersey City incident was a “violent, anti-Semitic hate crime,” Mr. de Blasio said.

The detective was a longtime police veteran.
Detective Seals, a 15-year law enforcement veteran and father of five, had recently been assigned to a task force focused on reducing gun violence in Jersey City, according to the city’s Police Department.
“He always wanted to be a cop,” the detective’s mother, Deborah Ann Perruzza, told The Times.
Jersey City Shooting: What We Know So Far

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[oceanblueeyes]

One of the “Black Hebrew Israelite” killers who targeted a Jewish grocery store in Jersey City left behind a handwritten note that said: “I do this because my creator makes me do this and I hate who he hates,” law enforcement sources told The Post.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/11/jerse...handwritten-note-my-creator-makes-me-do-this/

I'm so repulsed when these type of haters use their God as the excuse for what they do to innocent victims.

His creator he says he believed in is the Devil himself for only the Devil would approve of hate, and violence against anyone.

God is a loving God who loves, and values all of his children. He doesn't teach anyone to hate, but to love all others.

What they both worshipped was hate. Hate is deadly evil. The only thing that can eradicate hate is powerful love, which we have seen happening in this very community as they all stand in solidarity.

Each time hate rears it's evil head the first thing that happens afterwards the affect citizens of each town, city, or rural community comes together as one grieving people to embrace those affected, to give loving support, and to PRAY together.

No matter how many naysayers mock prayers it the one common denominator that happens in all tragedies because most know prayers are unbelievably powerful.

Each, and everytime when the grieving family members speak out they express their appreciation for all of the prayers, and loving support their families have received.

God gives us all free will to make our own choice in our lives. whether they are right choices or terribly wrong choices like these two murderers who chose murdering hatred, instead of love, acceptance of all others, and kindness. It's up to each one of us to build our own stair steps to Heaven or choosing Hell instead by the choices made.

But God is always present to give love, and comfort to the grieving, no matter the situation or circumstances.

I saw an in depth study on FNN just yesterday that showed most of the hate crimes committed in our country are anti-semitic hate crimes.

It was at the alarming percentage of over 57+%. The other hate crimes committed against others didn't even come close, and were each in the low teen percentile or lower.

It is alarming that in 2019 in America the Jewish people are specifically targeted, and endure hate crimes against them more than any other.

Jmho

 

[dotr]

Dec 11 2019
Philly area Black Hebrew Israelites leader responds to reports linking alleged Jersey City killers to his group

"Yahanna believes his movement is a scapegoat."

“Hebrew Israelites are the most unviolent people out of the entire black community,” Yahanna said. “They don’t go to jail, don’t sell drugs, they don’t go out shooting people. ... We are totally against that kind of activity. It doesn’t help us one bit to go out and shoot somebody.”

Members would post videos on their website of their demonstrations, which the lawsuit included to show statements like:

“Everybody knows that a white man will kill a baby on any day.”

“A woman need to shut her damn mouth.”

“You black women have been a terrorist to black men ... and it’s about time you mouth get shut.”

"More recently, men representing the Israelite School have set up outside Temple University’s Center City campus, near 15th Street and JFK Boulevard. There, they called pedestrians “white devils,” “,” and other names.

These insults are hurled at people of color, General Mahayaman previously has said, because it is “the only remedy for someone that suffers from Stockholm syndrome, [which] is to make them face the cruelty of their oppressor.”

 

[Hatfield]

Not sure it matters but he didn't work for Uber per this:

The man, who was identified by police as Michael Rumberger, 34, of Jersey City, was a full-time car service driver, but did not work for Uber, his family told NJ Advance Media. He was found in the trunk of a Lincoln Town car in the area of 17th Street and John F. Kennedy Boulevard in Bayonne with trauma to his head and pronounced dead at the scene late Saturday.

Jersey City shooters were suspects in murder of car service driver in Bayonne, AG says

Re BBM
For those that dont know about what is called a "Car Service" in the East coast cities like NY and NJ.

I used to live in NYC and "Car Services" were used in NY and NJ long before Uber and other companies were even created. These are small independent operators of a small fleet (sometimes 1 or 2 even) of cars and drivers who would function as a sort of cab driver and take people wherever they wanted to go in the city for a fee. They would advertise in the yellow pages (back when there were phone books hanging from a chain in telephone booths on street corners). They obviously still have "car services" even today.

The car services were normally safe to use when they had formal advertising. But when you got picked up the car was usually a regular sedan with no markings. It was usually the person's personal vehicle. So you had to be careful during pickup to make sure it was the car service you called.

 

[dotr]

dbm

 

[JerseyGirl]

My daughter, who lives in one of the five boroughs of New York City, purchased something locally on Facebook Marketplace and had it picked up and delivered to her by Uber.

It's not unheard of to use Uber for these things other than transporting people.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

At the synagogue and yeshiva, Steinmetz, 30, said he decided to check on the market. He said he scaled a gate in the back and made it a few feet from the market’s rear door. A worker lay face down, apparently shot as he tried to escape, he said.

Steinmetz, who lives in Brooklyn but travels to Jersey City frequently on business, said he returned to the Jewish center. With others, he barricaded the rear door. They then rounded up about 100 children from the yeshiva and moved them to the back of the building.

“We didn’t want them to hear the gunfire,” he said. “They were terrified. We tried keeping them calm.”

Some 100 families largely from the ultra-Orthodox Satmar sect have settled in Jersey City in recent years after being priced out of housing in the Jewish enclaves of Brooklyn, according to Jewish leaders.

They have had a symbiotic relationship with the mostly African American residents of Greenville, Steinmetz and others said.

“Why should they come to this place?” he said of the assault on the market. “It was targeted, because they could have run into so many other places. … I felt safe until now, but right now I’m shaking, to be honest.”

Steinmetz added, “It’s the United States of America. Everybody has their own rights. Why shouldn’t I be able to practice my religion?”

“The locals were welcoming,” he said. “They know we’re doing good for the community. We’re trying to fix up things and trying to make it better for everybody.”

Rabbi Moshe Schapiro, of the Chabad of Hoboken and Jersey City, said he spent part of Tuesday afternoon with the father of two children who were at the yeshiva at the time of the shooting. They were unharmed, he said.

“We generally feel safe here in the United States,” the rabbi said. “It’s very scary and sad as we speak but we’re not going anywhere.”
These Hasidic Jews came to Jersey City for more affordable living. Now they're coping with fear and grief

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The kosher grocery is a central fixture in a growing community of Orthodox Jews who have been moving to Jersey City in recent years and settling in what was a mostly black section of Jersey City, causing some resentment.
New Jersey authorities seek motive for attack on Jewish market

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In Williamsburg in Brooklyn, thousands filled a city street for the funeral of Deutsch. The anguished cries of the rabbi could he heard as he led the funeral out on the street.

Deutsch, the United Jewish Organizations’ statement said, was a yeshiva student and the son of UJO board member Abraham Deutsch.

“The community lost a promising, upcoming, charitable person who was spreading love and kindness,” the UJO statement read.

Also killed in the attack were police Detective Joseph Seals, 39, and Douglas Miguel Rodriguez, 49. A visitation for Seals is scheduled for 2pm Monday at McLaughlin Funeral Home in Jersey City, and his funeral service is set for 10pm on Tuesday at St. Aedan’s Church. Services for Rodriguez, a native of Ecuador, have not yet been scheduled.
Thousands Attend Levayas for Jersey City Shooting Victims

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In 2019, anti-Semitic hate crimes in New York City rose 63 percent, according to the New York Police Department, with a wave of violent crimes against Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn neighborhoods. The Anti-Defamation League similarly said this fall that the United States was on pace for a record number of anti-Semitic incidents this year.

Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL’s chief executive, said Wednesday that more investigation into the Jersey City attack was needed but that it appeared to be “another incident in a long line of violent incidents targeting the Jewish community. This hatred is a disease, and right now, we are experiencing an epidemic.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/12/jersey-city-shooting/

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

With a heavy police presence, students and parents scurried past reporters who had gathered to hear Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop speak shortly before the school day began. Sacred Heart School, which was closed Wednesday, was hit by multiple bullets in the shootout. At least three bullets pierced a window, but no injuries were reported in the school.

Remnants of the shootout were still visible at the Catholic school Thursday morning as a worker was fixing a window damaged from gunfire. Police tape was still in place at one entrance.

Fire and Grace The incident today of violence in Sacred Heart’s neighborhood was tragic and disheartening but also...

Jersey City school peppered with gunfire in fatal shootout reopens amid heavy police presence

Sacred Heart School Jersey City

 

[imstilla.grandma]

It has also been confirmed that Anderson was a member of the Black Israelites. The Black Israelites are replacement theology a cult who believes that black people exclusively are the real Jews and that Ashkenazi (those who fled to Europe) and Sephardi (Those who fled to Spain, North Africa, and the Middle East) Jews are impostors. And although they claim to be the “real Jews”, they pray in ‘churches’ and primarily use Christian text as the foundation for their teachings. Their church is formally called the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ.

In the tweet below, the Black Israelites can be seen openly preaching in LA that white people deserve to die.
Jersey City Shooters were ‘Black Israelites’: A Replacement Theology Cult

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Det. Seals, a 15-year veteran-of-the-force, was assigned to the city’s Cease Fire unit at the time of his murder, The New York Times reported.

The unit focuses on taking firearms out of the hands of criminals and reducing the number of shootings throughout the city.

“He was our leading police officer in removing guns from the street,” Chief Kelly said, according to The New York Times. “Dozens of dozens of handguns he is responsible for removing from the street.”

Det. Seal’s neighbor, Anthony Dellisanti, said he noticed the detective’s wife out raking leaves in front of their home hours before the shooting, NJ.com reported.

A while later, a swarm of patrol vehicles showed up at the house, picked up Det. Seal’s family, and drove away.

He leaves behind a wife and five young children.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with Joe’s family during this Christmas season and beyond,” Fulop said, according to NJ.com. “We take for granted sometimes the selfless work a police officer does when they wear that uniform. In the end they are people that volunteered to keep everyone else safe regardless of the circumstances.”
Hero Down: Jersey City Police Department Det. Joseph Seals Executed By Gunman

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Chabad Rabbi Moshe Schapiro said he spoke with the survivor at a hospital. “He said the guy next to him fell to the ground,” Schapiro said. “He suffered two gunshot wounds but managed to run out of the store and climb over fences.”

The prospect of attacks against Jews weighed heavily on the more than 300 people who attended a vigil Wednesday night at a synagogue about a mile from where the shootings took place.

“I think maybe we have two parts of our brain,” said Temple Beth-El president Tom Rosensweet. “One part is absolutely not expecting something like this to happen in Jersey City, but the other part knows we have to be careful.”

Authorities also warned that several fake Go Fund me pages have popped up purporting to be raising funds for the family of the slain officer, a father of five.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...itys-mayor-says-gunmen-targeted-kosher-market

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Grewal spoke after Mayor Steve Fulop, citing surveillance video from the scene, said the shooting was a "targeted attack on the Jewish kosher deli."

"Others may have incomplete or inaccurate information, which can not only cause unnecessary panic in the community, but also undermine the integrity of an ongoing criminal investigation,'' Grewal said.
Jersey City shooting: Was anti-Semitism the motive for deadly rampage?

 

[Hatfield]

We know the 2 perps went into the Deli on the corner. I am trying to figure out where the Synagogue is.

I am wondering if the Synagogue is the place to the immediate left of the Deli and was the same door that the running person we saw on video trying to deliver something to the place on the left.

If the synagogue was next door to the Deli, then I am wondering if the 2 perps thought they were getting access to the synagogue and maybe the synagogue was their intended target?

 

[fred&edna]

We know the 2 perps went into the Deli on the corner. I am trying to figure out where the Synagogue is.

I am wondering if the Synagogue is the place to the immediate left of the Deli and was the same door that the running person we saw on video trying to deliver something to the place on the left.

If the synagogue was next door to the Deli, then I am wondering if the 2 perps thought they were getting access to the synagogue and maybe the synagogue was their intended target?

See post #127