GUILTY NJ - Four dead in New Year's shooting, Long Branch, 31 Dec 2017 *Arrest*

[Betty P]

Bolded by me.

I am not sure why you would write this considering that the gun was most probably owned by the father who was killed.

We don't know for certain yet. Apparently there were some other family members who escaped.

ETA: The link above states it was owned by the father. The fact the father died by his own gun doesn't help the situation. Perhaps we need regulations that require people who own dangerous guns like this be subject to inspections to make sure they're being properly stored. Especially so when they have children and teens living with them.

 

[enelram]

There's a 2010 Youtube video submitted by Brittany Kologi titled "Hamster Boy- My little brother being himself"
Interesting.

 

[white rabbit]

hm. so grandpa ("steven" is the dad) owned the gun.

appears that guns of this type are pretty pricey in nj:

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/search?location=nj&category=rifles&tag=century-arms

perhaps this was an adam lanza situtation? grandpa and grandson would "bond" admiring his firearm? or like nancy lanza, would take him to a shooting range?

pure speculation and not fact nor opinion...just trying to figure out how this 16 year old knew what do do with a gun. or can a first-timer manage to aim successfully at four different (maybe moving?) targets?

 

[enelram]

Wonder if the accused son lived at home and attended the special school by commuting or did he stay at school and was home for the holiday vacation?
Neighbors said they rarely saw him outside of the home.
Hope this isn't another situation where he was on anti-depressants or anti-psychotics for his problems.

 

[Cherry]

Absolutely heart wrenching. I think his crime shows a level of hatred, we will see if he is tried as an adult. LE has already stated he knew what he had done. A horrific crime that deserves a life sentence, nothing less will do.

 

[strawberry]

This is confusing because the father was named Steven and so was a surviving so. The article said the gun was owned by “Stevens father” which would be the grandfather. I wonder why gf had it there that night maybe it was in his car? I shudder to think the kid could have been mimicking things seen in video games without understanding the real world consequences.


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[animlzrule]

This is confusing because the father was named Steven and so was a surviving so. The article said the gun was owned by “Stevens father” which would be the grandfather. I wonder why gf had it there that night maybe it was in his car? I shudder to think the kid could have been mimicking things seen in video games without understanding the real world consequences.


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If true, then the Grandfather should be prosecuted as well.

 

[Deadhead_Kay]

Wonder if the accused son lived at home and attended the special school by commuting or did he stay at school and was home for the holiday vacation?
Neighbors said they rarely saw him outside of the home.
Hope this isn't another situation where he was on anti-depressants or anti-psychotics for his problems.

I'm pretty sure he still lived at home. From photos of his middle school graduation it's clear he was attending schools within the county. Doesn't seem likely that he would be at a boarding school for high school. Was likely just a normal 16 year old who preferred playing video games then being outside.

 

[strawberry]

If true, then the Grandfather should be prosecuted as well.

He’s dead

ETA my mistake I forgot he survived. If he did bring the gun I bet he wishes he didn’t survive

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[animlzrule]

He’s dead


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I thought the GF and the eldest son escaped?

ETA: "One of the teen’s brothers and his grandfather, Adrian Kologi, were also in the home at the time of the shooting but were not injured."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...teen-kills-4-family-members-article-1.3731274

 

[kaen]

We don't know for certain yet. Apparently there were some other family members who escaped.

ETA: The link above states it was owned by the father. The fact the father died by his own gun doesn't help the situation. Perhaps we need regulations that require people who own dangerous guns like this be subject to inspections to make sure they're being properly stored. Especially so when they have children and teens living with them.

Writing that the person who owned the gun should lose their privileges and that person potentially being the murdered man feels out of line or off the cuff to me. All guns should be secured but until we know more, I think it is important to be respectful to the father who I am sure would be devastated that giving this young man the access to a loaded gun killed three people he loved as well as killing him.

Outside of the initial comment, I am a firm believer that if one chooses to own a gun or a car or any other item that could be a weapon that the owners have a responsibility to secure and ensure the safety of others from those who are not licensed or trained to use them.

 

[animlzrule]

Writing that the person who owned the gun should lose their privileges and that person potentially being the murdered man feels out of line or off the cuff to me. All guns should be secured but until we know more, I think it is important to be respectful to the father who I am sure would be devastated that giving this young man the access to a loaded gun killed three people he loved as well as killing him.

I feel that prosecuting registered owners of guns that are used to murder innocents is the only way this country will begin to curb gun deaths in this country. People need to stop being cavalier and certain that they are "responsible" gun owners. I don't feel it's out of line or off the cuff to me. To me, it seems logical.

 

[white rabbit]

we're getting all mixed up. for clarification i'm going to name names, may be deleted by the mods if necessary:

grandfather - adrian - survivor - gun owner
father - steven sr. - deceased
mother - linda - deceased
son #1 - (unnamed) - survivor
son #2 - steven jr. - survivor
daughter - brittany - deceased
son #3 - s**** - shooter

family friend - mary - deceased

 

[white rabbit]

mary (deceased family friend) and grandfather were either partners or roommates:

http://www.njtaxrecords.net/r/2014-...onmouth-county-nj-property-tax-record-2059369

they owned a home together.

 

[Deadhead_Kay]

Where exactly does it say the gun was registered to Steven's father? I checked out the article posted with the original claim but didn't see anything stating that?

I feel that prosecuting registered owners of guns that are used to murder innocents is the only way this country will begin to curb gun deaths in this country. People need to stop being cavalier and certain that they are "responsible" gun owners. I don't feel it's out of line or off the cuff to me. To me, it seems logical.

It would be logical to prosecute if owning a registered gun was illegal, which it is not. If the cops discover improper storage of the gun then the owner could face some charges. Until then, it is rather brash to be making claims that the owner, either a murdered father or distraught grandfather, should have criminal charges brought against them.

 

[strawberry]

I thought the GF and the eldest son escaped?

ETA: "One of the teen’s brothers and his grandfather, Adrian Kologi, were also in the home at the time of the shooting but were not injured."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...teen-kills-4-family-members-article-1.3731274

Yes my mistake


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[Elley Mae]

Walter Montelione, Linda Kologi's cousin, spoke to CBS New York's Lisa Rozner through tears by phone.

"The Kologis were very caring, loving people and always looking to do fun things with their kids," he said. "He was a good kid. He was, a little you know, slow with learning disabilities but he knows right from wrong."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/long-branch-new-jersey-shooting-4-dead-in-apparent-domestic-incident/

 

[white rabbit]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/01/teen-a...assault-rifle/

An Ocean Township resident who played softball with the father described the 16-year-old as “the nicest kid in the world.”

“He came to watch the softball games with Linda and he was always smiling. This is totally out of the blue,” Joe Rios, 52, told The Post.

“This is not something I ever thought this young boy would do. I don’t know what happened. He was not a violent kid. He was always smiling,” said Rios, adding that he hung out with Steve every other weekend.

Rios also said the weapon belonged to Steven’s father, who is a veteran.

The Kologis owned the three-family home, where a friend of Rios lives in the basement and called him at 2 a.m. Monday."


BBM - steven being the father of the shooter, his father being the grandfather of the shooter, who is the veteran.

 

[Elley Mae]

The teenager was believed to have used a Century Arms "semi-automatic assault rifle" to gun down his family members and the family friend, authorities said. The gun was legally owned and registered to a family member, Gramiccioni said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/0...y-members-on-new-years-eve-officials-say.html

Jalen Walls went to school with Brittany Kologi and lives a few blocks away from the home. He told NJ.com that the suspected shooter was cared for by his mother as he required special assistance.

"But he was fully functional and comprehended what we were saying," Walls told the news outlet.

 

[bears10]

This is confusing because the father was named Steven and so was a surviving so. The article said the gun was owned by “Stevens father” which would be the grandfather. I wonder why gf had it there that night maybe it was in his car? I shudder to think the kid could have been mimicking things seen in video games without understanding the real world consequences.


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Maybe the grandfather also lives there since it’s a 3 family house.


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