GUILTY NJ - Four dead in New Year's shooting, Long Branch, 31 Dec 2017 *Arrest*

[beandawgs]

BBM

Not being snarky, at all, but, unless it was grandpa's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Also in the article:

Neither the prosecutor's office nor the school would confirm any diagnosis regarding the youth.
"He had some type of autism. I didn't know what type. He was very secluded," said Pacheco.

Because of the seriousness of the offense, Gramiccioni said the prosecutor could waive the youth out of juvenile court and try him as an adult, but no decision on that had been made as of early Monday.

I get it but I don't think he should be tried as an adult in this case, he has a developmental disability. He may be 16, but probably socially the mind of an 8 yo. Speaking as the parent of a high functioning child with autism. My son hasn't killed anyone but he has severe impulse control and has hit us - even once I had to call the police to the house. Even the police realized he was "special", talked him down but the police didn't want to take him into custody- and I wouldn't have wanted that either, but I was alone and needed help.

 

[Gardenista]

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@foofighters Your video low kept me from hanging myself tonight thank you for always being there <3
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So sad she even has a tweet about gun violence :-(

 

[rsd1200]

So sorry to hear this. Extending sympathy to the family and friends, its a terrible tragedy. Sixteen year old boys can be moody and temperamental, it comes with the age and hormones for most. If autism is involved, it's even worse. Why can't people who insist on keeping dangerous weapons at home keep them locked up and away from others, esp. kids and teens?

I really hope that they'd not been taking him target shooting. The grandmother said she'd never even known them to own a gun. Maybe it was, usually locked up, and Dad had it out to clean it, and made the unforgivable mistake of not locking it back up right away. It's like anything else that folks choose to own, that can be dangerous, we humans are fallible, and because of that, very bad stuff happens sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Neighbor says he was in the hospital frequently

http://ktla.com/2018/01/01/16-year-...y-killing-family-with-rifle-on-new-years-eve/

Like my friends' son - always headed to the hospital after a meltdown. It could have been like that. Don't know for sure yet.

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[Deleted member 158085]

New

http://www.app.com/story/news/crime...quadruple-homicide-said-hands-teen/994599001/

She's been somewhat troubled, by the looks of her Twitter.

And she posted about Sandy Hook not long ago. :-(

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[Deleted member 158085]

The more I read of her Twitter... She was suicidal at one point.

https://twitter.com/LindaKologi/status/776961594668429312

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[Deadhead_Kay]

Going through Linda's twitter, just total vibes of "the saddest people try their hardest to make others happy...".

 

[Gone Girl]

Dear God, may she and her family Rest In Peace. Went to the twitter page you referenced. She was in a lot of pain, clearly. She struggled immensely. Her struggle is over... hopefully her boys can find peace that eluded her and the shooter.

 

[Gone Girl]

It is the start of a new year and it pains me to realize that what we have most in common as humans is the unique crosses we all have to carry. Everybody has something. All we can do is hope for everyone&#8217;s crosses to get lighter...

 

[rsd1200]

The more I read of her Twitter... She was suicidal at one point.

https://twitter.com/LindaKologi/status/776961594668429312

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I wonder if the bankruptcy could have caused some depression? It would not be a happy event. It seemed music helped her carry on (I can relate). She and her spouse seemed like very good people from all accounts. I wonder if the family friend was living there, but renting a room, to help with bills as it said Mom had been unemployed. Maybe she'd bought the firearm, thinking in terms of doing something to harm herself? It kinda looks like the Twitter is a cry for help. Then again, maybe the friend who lived there had it but failed to secure the firearm. Lots of maybes.

 

[CARIIS]

exactly. none of us know where on the spectrum he was, but for a 16 year old who shoots most of his family dead, was certainly not on the same track as your granddaughter.

agree to disagree. someone in this family knew he had a short fuse. for now i blame the shooter. when more information comes out, i'll blame the shooter plus the family member who ignored obvious signs.

IMO short fuse implies predictability -- like if lit it goes boom

It is totally the opposite for sufferer or the caretakers.

It is more like fuse-less intensity duration
are totally unknown .

It is rough stuff for everyone involved.

really tough stuff...............................

typically they are in a totally different orbit at
at times

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I wonder if the bankruptcy could have caused some depression? It would not be a happy event. It seemed music helped her carry on (I can relate). She and her spouse seemed like very good people from all accounts. I wonder if the family friend was living there, but renting a room, to help with bills as it said Mom had been unemployed. Maybe she'd bought the firearm, thinking in terms of doing something to harm herself? It kinda looks like the Twitter is a cry for help. Then again, maybe the friend who lived there had it but failed to secure the firearm. Lots of maybes.

They certainly seem to have had plenty of financial troubles. And financial troubles commonly do cause depression.

The really odd thing about her Twitter, though, is that it's almost exclusively a one-sided conversation with the foo fighters for something like two years straight, IIRC. It's pretty strange to reveal that much personal, emotional information in that way through Twitter. I've actually never seen anything like it before.

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[Deadhead_Kay]

They certainly seem to have had plenty of financial troubles. And financial troubles commonly do cause depression.

The really odd thing about her Twitter, though, is that it's almost exclusively a one-sided conversation with the foo fighters for something like two years straight, IIRC. It's pretty strange to reveal that much personal, emotional information in that way through Twitter. I've actually never seen anything like it before.

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Doesn't seem too strange to me. It's especially common with people who do suffer from depression or something of the like, they put their survival on to these idols. Even if they know they won't receive a response, shouting into the void or sending messages out that may never be seen by the recipient can be therapeutic.

 

[Jennifer17]

I'm the parent of a "high functioning" autistic child - there's no rhyme or reason but when these kids get upset, they get VERY upset. I can't begin to tell you some of the tantrums I have lived through. My son is not intellectually disabled, but developmentally disabled. Its hard to understand that he can learn Chinese, straight As in school but no social skills. They just don't live in the same world as you and I. I would never, ever, ever allow him to have access to any weapon, ever. Didn't people learn this from Sandy Hook? Don't let kids with Autism or mental illness have a gun. Come on people.

But they are not all the same. My grandchild is totally opposite of that. She doesn't have meltdowns and in fact doesn't show a lot of emotion at all. It is like she is impervious to the actions of others around her. She plays sport at an elite level and has no trouble with team work, at the moment though she has anorexia which is sometimes how girls act out in passive aggressive manner.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Doesn't seem too strange to me. It's especially common with people who do suffer from depression or something of the like, they put their survival on to these idols. Even if they know they won't receive a response, shouting into the void or sending messages out that may never be seen by the recipient can be therapeutic.

I've never seen anything like it from an adult on social media - repeated and regular tweets that make up almost the entirety of an account @ someone famous. It seems to me like a pretty clear cry for help. That, in combination with the content of the tweets, speaks to a big burden, and depression, as you say.

If I was a friend and saw that, I would have cause for concern and reach out for sure.

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[Jennifer17]

Doesn't seem too strange to me. It's especially common with people who do suffer from depression or something of the like, they put their survival on to these idols. Even if they know they won't receive a response, shouting into the void or sending messages out that may never be seen by the recipient can be therapeutic.

I agree. Like writing things down sometimes gets it somewhat out of your head and into the words.

 

[Jennifer17]

They certainly seem to have had plenty of financial troubles. And financial troubles commonly do cause depression.

The really odd thing about her Twitter, though, is that it's almost exclusively a one-sided conversation with the foo fighters for something like two years straight, IIRC. It's pretty strange to reveal that much personal, emotional information in that way through Twitter. I've actually never seen anything like it before.

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BBM. And vice versa. Sometimes depression leaves you unable to cope with the day to day decisions that you make.

 

[Jax49]

Apologies if already posted or discussed. In this video a neighbor describes him as schizophrenic.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ew-jersey-new-year-shooting-article-1.3730427

 

[CARIIS]

The slain daughters twitter [emoji22] www.twitter.com/brittanykologi


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