NJ - Sean Goldman: Abducted and living in Brazil UPDATE: Coming Home

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  • #301
Liz said:
I'm not aware of who this person, Lou Young that is tweeting about the Goldman case is, but he seems to have access to some insider information.
Here are his latest tweets, from newest to oldest:

US Consulate confirms Goldman reunion is imminent. Urges respect for privacy. (Good luck with that!)
16 minutes ago from web

Grandmother says she and Sean have made plans to stay in touch by phone and e-mail. Visitation is being negotiated.
24 minutes ago from web

Family says Sean is packing tonight. Cried a lot but is silent now. Bring as many toys as he can. Says he'll miss his little sister Chiara.
25 minutes ago from web

Brazilian grandmother has been denied request to travel with Sean to US.
26 minutes ago from web

Brazilian govt has forbidden images of Sean Goldman from time he leaves house till arrival at Embassy.
27 minutes ago from web

David Goldman will take custody of Sean @ about 6AM NYT @ the US Embassy in Rio. He will travel with Dad probably by private jet to US.
28 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/LouYoungNY
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IF all of the above is true, I completely agree with everything that has been negotiated thus far. May God comfort Sean and let him feel secure when he is finally reunited with his Dad.
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Truthfully, after reading this the timing for Sean meeting his Dad is being handled correctly. He needed time to absorb the information, gather his things, and say his goodbyes. I can't imagine how this little boy is dealing with all this no matter who was right, who was wrong, who won, or who lost.

I agree, the terms are reasonable and most importanly shows compassion for Sean.

"Sean is my family, Sean is my son. It is our right to be together, not just a rule of law, not just a treaty, not he's Brazilian, not he's American, not he's from anywhere. He's my son and I should be able to raise my son and he should know his dad," Goldman said this week.
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Amen!
 
  • #302
I understand the need for Sean to have contact with his grandparents and family but there is no way...if I were his dad....would he be going back there to visit. The grandparents have money and it would be easy for them to come to the US to visit under the eye of the father. I would be afraid to leave Sean alone with the grandparents for fear they would take him and I would never see him again. It probably wouldn't be a big deal for them to relocate. Think of your son dad but be careful. Supervised visitation is a good idea.
 
  • #303
It is only 20 minutes away from the deadline... I hope all goes well and the next thing that we hear is that David and Sean are in the air and home bound.
 
  • #304
Saw a Twitter that the handover has taken place... is looking for a solid news report on this, though...
 
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Oh, Happy Day.....I just turned on the news and Sean and his Dad are on their way to the airport.

Merry Christmas......Happy Holidays.....Thank you God.....
 
  • #308
Elphaba said:
I agree with the Congressman that accompanied David down to Brazil: he said that how the step-father and grandmother drug Sean through the mob of reporters and such, was unnecessary.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2009/12/24/vo.brazil.sean.goldman.arrival.cnn.html
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This was terrible what the step-father and grandparents did to Sean. It was like leading a "lamb to slaughter". Thank goodness Sean is finally on his way home and hopefully never returns to Brazil.

It will be interesting to see if the grandparents stay in touch with Sean throught cards, letters and phone calls.

I'm not so sure if I would let these grandparents in Sean's life, but David will be the one to make that decision.

Welcome Home Sean! :woohoo:
 
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  • #310
RayStar said:
That was one the most horrible things they could have done. Now this is a scene we all may never forget when thinking of this case.
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it goes in keeping with their woah are we we're martyrs. they seem to have the attitude this is about what they want not what's best for sean. he should have gone back to his dad long ago...or better yet not even taken like he was.

i wish them all the blessings God has for them as they heal and reunite.
 
  • #311
Patty G said:
This was terrible what the step-father and grandparents did to Sean. It was like leading a "lamb to slaughter". Thank goodness Sean is finally on his way home and hopefully never returns to Brazil.

It will be interesting to see if the grandparents stay in touch with Sean throught cards, letters and phone calls.

I'm not so sure if I would let these grandparents in Sean's life, but David will be the one to make that decision.

Welcome Home Sean! :woohoo:
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I really firmly believe from experience...that before David makes that decision...the child should undergo counseling and the counselor should be part of the decision. There are many issues at hand...parental alienation one of them. IF they are part of his life...there should never be unsupervised visitation...what they did was criminal.
 
  • #312
On FOX news just now they advised that father and son are on their way back to the U.S. They're on a private jet.

fran
 
  • #313
Bobbisangel said:
I understand the need for Sean to have contact with his grandparents and family but there is no way...if I were his dad....would he be going back there to visit. The grandparents have money and it would be easy for them to come to the US to visit under the eye of the father. I would be afraid to leave Sean alone with the grandparents for fear they would take him and I would never see him again. It probably wouldn't be a big deal for them to relocate. Think of your son dad but be careful. Supervised visitation is a good idea.
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I agree with that.
 
  • #314
December 24, 2009 9:21 AM
David Goldman Reunited with Son, Sean Goldman, After Brazilian Custody Nightmare

RIO DE JANEIRO (CBS/AP) - A Brazilian family delivered 9-year-old Sean Goldman to his American father David Goldman in Brazil on Thursday, ending a five-year custody battle.

Photo: Sean Goldman 9, arrives at the U.S. Consulate in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, hugging his Brazilian stepfather, Joao Paulo Lins e Silva, Dec. 24, 2009. (Sorry, I don't know how to post pics or I would post it)

---> more at link

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/0...r+(Crimesider+-+CBS+News)&utm_content=Twitter

I'm glad Sean has at long last been reunited with his father. Praying they are having an enjoyable flight home and everything's working out allright between them. May God bless them both and their father/son relationship!
 
  • #315
What a wonderful ending to this story on Christmas Eve!
 
  • #316
southcitymom said:
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I'm sure Sean's Dad never thought this would go on so long and turn into such a legal mess, but I wonder if there ever would have been a point in all this when he might have just said - screw it and moved to Brazil and started to see his son.

On TV, Sean's Brazilian family invited his Father to Christmas. Sean's Dad said he didn't buy it. But gosh, he's in Brazil - his child is there - I'd show up for dinner. What's the worst thing the stepfather can do? Send him away, I guess. But still - all this legal posturing in the face of a chance to spend Christmas with his son.....bleh! Maybe he would just feel too strange around those folks since they have been at battle for so long, but does he hate the thought of being around them more than he loves the thought of being around his son?

Yes, I think a child Sean's age should be able to say in Court to the people who are deciding his fate, "This is what I want." I don't think that means the Court should necessarily DO what Sean wants....his desires should obviously be interpreted through his situation as well as the legal rights of his father. But, absolutely, he should have a voice, IMHO.

I hope no one will read this post to think I am blaming Sean's father for any of this. He is in a terrible situation and I feel for him. But for me - nothing about this case is clearcut.
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WOW, you guys have been busy posting. I didn't realize how many days I had been away from WS. Not that this matters anymore, because they are already on their way HOME... :woohoo:, but there is a lot the Brazilian family could have done. It has been stated that they had threatened to have David killed in the past .... don't think I would be showing up for Christmas dinner either.

As for Sean (he's 9, btw) being able to tell his wishes...I can respect this if it had not been proven that he was a victim of Parental Alienation Syndrome (PAS) or better known as BRAINWASHING! This was stated in all of the court rulings at the federal level.


southcitymom said:
Liz - who else could it be appealed to?

What happiness for David, but I imagine leaving the family he has been with for so long right before Christmas will be a shock for Sean. Though perhaps he has been prepared for this - I hope so.

Blessings to Sean and David as they rebuild their relationship.
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They could have appealed to the STJ rather than try to go back to their friend (Aurelio Mello) to get another stay. By skipping the STJ initially (they did later file a motion with the STJ) and going straight to the STF, they shot themselves in the foot. They did try to appeal to the STJ and it was denied once the chairman received the report from the STF President (Mendes).


stilettos said:
I do not know how much the fight for his son depleted his finances...but from all the media I saw in his home...he lives a highly upper middle class life and in addition to loads of love, Sean will be blessed with a comfortable life.
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David Goldman has reportedly spent more than $400K in this battle to regain his son. He lives in a very nice home (that the Brazilians refer to as a shack) in Tinton Falls, NJ.

But all that matters now is...THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY HOME!!!!
BringSeanHome Forums - View Single Post - Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
(there is a video of the take-off at this link)

One more thing: it was stated this morning that Sean never said he only wanted to live in Brazil. I know he did on tape, but that was a forced interview (also illegal per the court order). He and his Dad were bonding nicely - laughing and talking about basketball.

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GITANA - You can exhale now. :dance:

Oh, and let us not forget, there are 65 more US children IN BRAZIL that are being illegally retained; more than 300 in Mexico; 2800 TOTAL...well, now 2799. Sean Goldman is the first child ever returned to the US from Brazil under the Hague Convention. The US has returned 7 children from the US to Brazil since Sean Goldman was abducted in June 2004...3 of the 7 were from New Jersey.


Francois Larivee (Canadian) has been waiting for 2 YEARS to have an appeal heard (filed by his childs mother) at the STJ level. The TRF-2 awarded him custody of his son (Lucas) and she went into hiding with the child and managed a stay while "in hiding". He's still waiting . . . :banghead:
 
  • #317
WOW! I didn't know Sean was the first child returned to the US under the Hague Convention. I never knew the numbers were so low with their success? rate.

Shocking and sad.
 
  • #318
Does anyone know if there is a fund that has been set up for David? If so, I would like to donate a few bucks to him to help defray the cost.
 
  • #319
Cubby said:
WOW! I didn't know Sean was the first child returned to the US under the Hague Convention. I never knew the numbers were so low with their success? rate.

Shocking and sad.
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From Brazil, he is the first child returned to the US.
 
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