NJ NJ- Simran Simran, 24, Indian national, vanished after arriving in the US for an arranged marriage, 20 June 2025, *Doesn't speak English/no family*

  • #121
The groom likely would not have given money, but purchased the ticket and sent her the flight information.

I believe she did spend a few days with the groom/family. Then someone picked her up and she left. I suspect she was talking to someone in the states online and this was the plan all along.

Whatever the case, I hope we get an update soon.
But that is only one side of the story. The first time I read that Facebook post from the Lindenwold PD it sent chills down my spine. Can you imagine the people "reporting you missing" to the police accusing you of a crime instead of worrying about your wellbeing? It sounded like the only reason they even bothered to contact police was just to enlist them to track her down for the money. No wonder she bolted, they sound horrendous.
And yes, hopefully she did have a contact here as a safety plan just in case all wasn't what it seemed and she needed to escape. Every woman should. That's what we teach our daughters. I hope and pray that is truly what has happened.
*my opinion.
 
  • #122
I don’t know if this been brought up and/or answered, but do we really know that she can’t speak English? Some people are alleging that she may have scammed someone (or been part of a scam) in order to come to the US and possibly get a decent amount of money. If this is true, IMO it could be possible that she knows English at least well enough, but pretended not to speak English? Maybe she would do this so people not expect her to be able to get around in the US. Or so people around her would comfortably speak English and not feel the need to be careful about what they say because think she can’t understand what they are saying. Is the information she might get in this manner be important enough to sell for some reason or maybe to use against someone in order to get money or something in exchange? There are so many potential scenarios. I just hope she is safe.
The Lindenwold PD said she doesn't speak any English, and they're taking the word of the "groom", with whom she has never met. Take that for what it's worth, I guess.
 
  • #123
But that is only one side of the story. The first time I read that Facebook post from the Lindenwold PD it sent chills down my spine. Can you imagine the people "reporting you missing" to the police accusing you of a crime instead of worrying about your wellbeing? It sounded like the only reason they even bothered to contact police was just to enlist them to track her down for the money. No wonder she bolted, they sound horrendous.
And yes, hopefully she did have a contact here as a safety plan just in case all wasn't what it seemed and she needed to escape. Every woman should. That's what we teach our daughters. I hope and pray that is truly what has happened.
*my opinion.
I can imagine that, if she committed a crime. We don't know who the "horrendous" one here is... The woman, the "groom", or a 3rd party. My point from the beginning hasn't been that I doubted foul play, only that the circumstances indicate that a voluntary disappearance is also a strong possibility. If there was foul play, the "horrendous" one is obviously whoever caused the disappearance. If she got here and the "groom" and/or his family were a nightmare, they're at fault. If her family set this up against her will (and are now no-shows), it's on them. If she just wanted the flight and then skipped town, which is plausible because it does happen, it's on her.
 
  • #124
Ah, that explains why a brother and sister in my high school class had the surnames Kaur and Singh.
My understanding, based on what a Sikh woman told me at university, is that these are not strictly surnames but titles. Singh means "Lion" (denoting a warrior - all Sikh men are deemed to be warriors) and Kaur means "Princess" as all Sikh women are considered to be of high or noble status, although technically outside the caste system as they are not Hindus.
 
  • #125
The photos probably weren't from a dating website because they were taken on the same day (she's wearing the same clothes in both) shortly after she got to the US.

What's weird is she obviously went to Atlantic City BEFORE she was last seen in Lindenwold... If what the police said is true. They said she was wearing grey sweatpants and a white T-shirt the last time she was seen on surveillance (those aren't surveillance photos, either). So she flew to the US... Probably Philly, but possibly Newark or JFK... then went all the way to AC, then turned around and went back to Lindenwold. So not knowing English obviously hasn't been a crutch when it comes to getting around. She's no dummy.

Yes this is the curious part that made me wonder if the photos are not from this trip. I'm not sure I agree that the photos can't be from a dating website just because taken on the same day. If she doesn't have many photos and those are both 'flattering' then why not?

Even so, i really find the selfie curious. I think it's that that I'm niggling around.

If my partner went missing today, I would have many photos of him available to give to LE.

Not a single one of them would be a selfie.

ie to me the selfie potentially indicates two people who have potentially not been in the same place at the same time, but rather who have exchanged photos from a distance. Maybe not though, just thinking aloud.
 
  • #126
This piece of info from LE is also interesting:

Simran "only has an international phone that allows her to send texts and make calls on Wi-Fi."

This information has also presumably come from whoever reported her missing.

Arguably that sounds like what you might tell someone to explain why you weren't able to meet up/FaceTime/share location etc etc.

I recently went to the states with my phone from UK. I bought some data for a fiver and it worked just fine. An "international phone" isn't really a thing now, in terms of being a 'problem'.
 
  • #127
Actually the most curious thing about this case, I've just realised, is that LE are even involved. Do they genuinely believed she has scammed someone? Because if so, it's mind boggling that it's international news. These romance scams are ten a penny, and it is notoriously impossible to get LE to take action.

So either they suspect foul play, or it's being actioned in connection with immigration policy.
 
  • #128
Yes this is the curious part that made me wonder if the photos are not from this trip. I'm not sure I agree that the photos can't be from a dating website just because taken on the same day. If she doesn't have many photos and those are both 'flattering' then why not?

Even so, i really find the selfie curious. I think it's that that I'm niggling around.

If my partner went missing today, I would have many photos of him available to give to LE.

Not a single one of them would be a selfie.

ie to me the selfie potentially indicates two people who have potentially not been in the same place at the same time, but rather who have exchanged photos from a distance. Maybe not though, just thinking aloud.
Since they were obviously taken in Atlantic City, if they weren't from this trip, everything the police have said to this point would now be questionable.

(Also, it makes sense that he wouldn't have any selfies. I too am very anti-selfie. It's a guy thing.)
 
  • #129
Since they were obviously taken in Atlantic City, if they weren't from this trip, everything the police have said to this point would now be questionable.

(Also, it makes sense that he wouldn't have any selfies. I too am very anti-selfie. It's a guy thing.)

The police haven't said much, but I see what you're saying. You infer that she had never been to the US before, however it's also possible that she loves the US, has visited before, and wants to move there, giving them added reason to believe she would scam her way in.

Info is very scant, but can we assume the surveillance footage was captured in NJ, since it's that LE that are investigating?

Or would NJ investigate if that was where she was reported missing, even if th CCTV was captured in Atlantic city?
 
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The police account of what might have happened still is not clicking with me atp. If she were indeed in the country before why scam to get a free trip to America this time? Just thinking out loud.
 
  • #132
The police account of what might have happened still is not clicking with me atp. If she were indeed in the country before why scam to get a free trip to America this time? Just thinking out loud.
Maybe she wanted to come back for someone else she met but couldnt afford it ?
 
  • #133
Maybe she wanted to come back for someone else she met but couldnt afford it ?
Possible! But still seems so elaborate for something that's relatively 'easy'.
 
  • #134
My guess here is that she possibly went along with the marriage plans, because that’s what you are expected to do. And then she got to NJ and the reality of it all hit home and she found an escape route. I don’t think this makes a good scam.

But there would be a good bit of family shame associated with backing out of a marriage ( particularly depending on how far down the road to planned marriage they got, there is a process). I would think there is chatter going on in her family behind the scenes and she is possibly in contact with someone. But no one is shouting it from the rooftops to save face.

The one thing that jumps out at me is that the picture painted is that she was in the US on her own (with just the groom’s family). That seems unusual to me. I’m assuming if she was meeting a potential fiancé or here to be married, her family would be with her. I think it would culturally be quite strange to just pack an unmarried daughter off to another country to be married without at least key members of the family coming with her. They would certainly be there for the wedding. Though actually it’s quite common to travel back to India for the wedding if there is a lot of family there. So that just seems odd to me. JMO
 
  • #135
The police haven't said much, but I see what you're saying. You infer that she had never been to the US before, however it's also possible that she loves the US, has visited before, and wants to move there, giving them added reason to believe she would scam her way in.

Info is very scant, but can we assume the surveillance footage was captured in NJ, since it's that LE that are investigating?

Or would NJ investigate if that was where she was reported missing, even if th CCTV was captured in Atlantic city?
The CCTV was in Lindenwold. They never released that footage. That was the last time she was seen (according to them). So she was in AC first.
 
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No. It's in South Jersey.
Huh? South Jersey is a geographical region of New Jersey, not a separate state. The poster was questioning whether the police in New Jersey would investigate Simran's disappearance since she was seen on CCTV in Atlantic City - which is in the state of New Jersey.
 
  • #138
Huh? South Jersey is a geographical region of New Jersey, not a separate state. The poster was questioning whether the police in New Jersey would investigate Simran's disappearance since she was seen on CCTV in Atlantic City - which is in the state of New Jersey.
Kidding. I say that to my wife. "I'm from Jersey, you're from South Jersey." (She gets to throw it back, because I'm also from West Virginia.)

The CCTV, which was the last known sighting of her, was in Lindenwold. The photos released to the public weren't CCTV... One was a car selfie, one was taken by someone else (likely same day) in front of the Boardwalk entrance to the AC Convention Center.
 
  • #139
No. It's in South Jersey.
There is, officially, only one state - New Jersey - and Atlantic City is in New Jersey.

Unofficially, there is North Jersey and South Jersey - and some people also say Central Jersey.
 
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