Found Safe NJ - unidentified woman, 20s, bloodied & screaming for help in semi cab, South Brunswick, August 3, 2022

  • #101
I am so glad to read that they located her safely and hope this can all be resolved.
 
  • #102
Glad she's been safely located. I wonder why they're referring to the suspected attacker as an "actor". It should be fairly easy to ask the victim who attacked her. They already know the driver of the truck was refusing to let her get out of the truck. He obviously saw the guy coming to the aid of the injured passenger who was trying to escape. At minimum, the driver was refusing to let her get out of the vehicle. That's kidnapping, right?

How much more proof do they need? JMO
 
  • #103
Maybe they were "acting" out some sort of a prank ?
 
  • #104
Glad she's been safely located. I wonder why they're referring to the suspected attacker as an "actor". It should be fairly easy to ask the victim who attacked her. They already know the driver of the truck was refusing to let her get out of the truck. He obviously saw the guy coming to the aid of the injured passenger who was trying to escape. At minimum, the driver was refusing to let her get out of the vehicle. That's kidnapping, right?

How much more proof do they need? JMO
I've seen verified LE and SAR here refer to suspects, perps or POIs as "actors" in other cases. I think it's just LE jargon.

For example, in the Texas statute we see:

Sec. 1.07. DEFINITIONS. (a) In this code:
(1) "Act" means a bodily movement, whether voluntary or involuntary, and includes speech.
(2) "Actor" means a person whose criminal responsibility is in issue in a criminal action. Whenever the term "suspect" is used in this code, it means "actor."
 
  • #105
Glad she's been safely located. I wonder why they're referring to the suspected attacker as an "actor". It should be fairly easy to ask the victim who attacked her. They already know the driver of the truck was refusing to let her get out of the truck. He obviously saw the guy coming to the aid of the injured passenger who was trying to escape. At minimum, the driver was refusing to let her get out of the vehicle. That's kidnapping, right?

How much more proof do they need? JMO
That IS a very strange term even if it's a legit term. I've never heard of it and have followed cases here for quite some time, but maybe I zoned out hearing that at times. Weird!
 
  • #106
I've seen verified LE and SAR here refer to suspects, perps or POIs as "actors" in other cases. I think it's just LE jargon.

For example, in the Texas statute we see:

Sec. 1.07. DEFINITIONS. (a) In this code:
(1) "Act" means a bodily movement, whether voluntary or involuntary, and includes speech.
(2) "Actor" means a person whose criminal responsibility is in issue in a criminal action. Whenever the term "suspect" is used in this code, it means "actor."
I have seen that term used as well, imo meaning prime suspect, who they believe and hope will face consequences. Jmo.
 
  • #107
I have seen that term used as well, imo meaning prime suspect, who they believe and hope will face consequences. Jmo.
I wonder if it's a term unique to certain geographic regions. Either way - good, and I hope he faces consequences!!
 
  • #108
I wonder if it's a term unique to certain geographic regions. Either way - good, and I hope he faces consequences!!
Do we know that he’s done anything yet? Did I miss that?
 
  • #109
I wonder if it's a term unique to certain geographic regions. Either way - good, and I hope he faces consequences!!
Very good point, that might be the case. I have rarely heard the term in my neck of the woods, and seems to be a more modern term now being used. JME.
 
  • #110
Very good point, that might be the case. I have rarely heard the term in my neck of the woods.
Now that I’ve thought about it I’ve heard it on NCIS. And not nicely.
 
  • #111
Now that I’ve thought about it I’ve heard it on NCIS. And not nicely.
Oh maybe, imo there are at least 3 experts here that I have seen use the term. One is a SAR expert, trackergd. Very informative posts on Suzanne Morphew's forum, and iirc Linda Stoltzfoos. A lot of actual physical "boots on ground" work for poor Linda.
 
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  • #112
We had a case here....posted on NextDoor. A Ring video by a resident in which a woman was screaming for help from an open window in a car that raced by, at night. Police were informed, given the video footage etc....but we never heard anything more about it. It was frightening.
 
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ug, why does this scenario remind me of Cabby Petito and Brian Laundry?
 
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  • #117
Wow!
I was earlier thinking/hoping it might be a father daughter issue, nothing nefarious.

It's husband and wife! They didn't even know they were being looked for.

Well, also doubt the woman was "about 20" , married to a 52 year old.
And here:
"They say that after falling, the wife even sent a photo of the injury to her daughter to tell her what happened."
bbm, from in the link above.
Long hair, petite. Just looked young.

So glad this is nicely resolved.
I hope the witness doesn't feel bad. He did the right thing!
 
  • #118
I hate the stance that LE usually has towards domestic situations. Why is a domestic situation any less dangerous than a kidnapping or assault perpetrated by a stranger?

This sounds like an accident but it could’ve been something else and the witness did the right thing to report it and it’s LE job to do something about it. No resources were wasted, this is literally their job. A woman was distressed and injured, someone reported it, LE investigated and thankfully it sounds like it was just an accident.
 
  • #119
I hate the stance that LE usually has towards domestic situations. Why is a domestic situation any less dangerous than a kidnapping or assault perpetrated by a stranger?

This sounds like an accident but it could’ve been something else and the witness did the right thing to report it and it’s LE job to do something about it. No resources were wasted, this is literally their job. A woman was distressed and injured, someone reported it, LE investigated and thankfully it sounds like it was just an accident.

I don't feel like they frame statements that way to imply that DV is less serious or dangerous; instead, I think it is meant to try and put a pin in any hysteria over some maniac roaming the streets killing at random. I know it comes off tacky-sounding when they say things like "just a DV incident", but I don't feel they are downplaying anything. And seriously, in a day and age when this country has a hissy fit if someone makes a derogatory remark about absolutely everything, why on earth would LE open themselves up to more criticism and outrage by making such an inflammatory statement implying that DV is just an eye-roll and should be ignored?

It's a prime example of why context is so important.
 
  • #120
I don't feel like they frame statements that way to imply that DV is less serious or dangerous; instead, I think it is meant to try and put a pin in any hysteria over some maniac roaming the streets killing at random. I know it comes off tacky-sounding when they say things like "just a DV incident", but I don't feel they are downplaying anything. And seriously, in a day and age when this country has a hissy fit if someone makes a derogatory remark about absolutely everything, why on earth would LE open themselves up to more criticism and outrage by making such an inflammatory statement implying that DV is just an eye-roll and should be ignored?

It's a prime example of why context is so important.
It was not just the statement from this case, other posters were sharing other similar cases where dangerous situations were downplayed as “domestic” in nature and people ended up dead.

Wasn’t really a jab to this particular LE, it appears they did their job correctly but following up on the report and making sure everyone was safe. Sorry if it came out weird.
 

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