NM NM - Newkirk, WhtFem, 20's, UP138109, strangled and beaten, found hanging from tree, gave birth shorly before death, March'75

  • #21
I wonder if the promotional tee shirts were worn only by the recruiters, or if they were handed out as freebies by the recruiters to anybody who walked by? Who knows, maybe both..

Warning possible rabbit hole:

If they were worn only by recruiters, one obvious question is: could she have recently been hired as a “civilian employee” recruiter by the Air Force?

According to the 2/9/75 Bridgeport Post article (btw, great sleuthing @heartanium), there was an Air Force Recruiting Detachment (402) in Scottsdale, AZ.

It’s definitely a long shot as I doubt she would have been employed as an Air Force civilian employee recruiter while pregnant, but who knows, depending on when she delivered (I think I read that autopsy indicated she had given birth at least two weeks before she was found, could she have looked for a job and been hired as a recruiter in the approx one month window between 2/10/75 (guess at early delivery date) and 3/10/75 (two weeks before she was found on Tuesday March 25, 1975?

I admit this is way out there, but if she was a recent hire by Air Force Recruiting Detachment 402 in Scottsdale, maybe the USAF Recruiting Dept has a record of hires or employees in that small window if time.

All of this of course goes out the window if the “Super Jobs in the Air Force” tee shirts were just giveaways…

If they were just giveaways, she could’ve picked one up from any recruiting “booth” (I guess I’ll call them). I don’t think the civilian employee recruiters worked at the main recruiting station/office so much. I think they were out setting up tables or booths at at locations like high schools, colleges, shopping centers - anyplace were you might find military age recruits (mostly men I would think back then). They were always in my high school cafeteria

So sad there is so little info to go on. RIP
 
  • #22

This article reports Nancy was traveling around with a companion. She must have been "missing" or family felt she was due to limited to no contact. Because the victim was beaten, this can distort facial features, and brother-in-law made an honest mistake...
Nancy Marie Her shape if face her eyebrows and nose remind me if the UID
 
  • #23
A long shot, but does anybody know if any evidence is still available, or if there might be DNA?
I'm not 100% sure about this but I think that the policy for New Mexico at this time was to bury unidentified bodies instead of cremating them. If there's no DNA or other identifiers available they should be able to exhume her to test.
 
  • #24
I'm not 100% sure about this but I think that the policy for New Mexico at this time was to bury unidentified bodies instead of cremating them. If there's no DNA or other identifiers available they should be able to exhume her to test.
Agree. And Test the infant found to see if it is hers as well.
 
  • #25
It's possible that the baby and its mother (and possibly even father) were identified, and she wasn't the mother.
 
  • #26
Hopefully this won’t be deleted but I called and spoke directly to the Sheriff listed as the case owner on NAMUS. He told me directly that the previous Sheriff kept no records from 1975, and he had no information on this case nor where her remains may have been taken.
This can be verified by contacting the Guadalupe County Sheriffs Department (575) 472-3711
 
  • #27
There are three John Doe's buried at this cemetery in Albuquerque, all from 1975, although none is the infant John Doe mentioned in this thread. There is no record of her being here, either, but there are a bunch of Doe indigent burials here-

 
  • #28
Hopefully this won’t be deleted but I called and spoke directly to the Sheriff listed as the case owner on NAMUS. He told me directly that the previous Sheriff kept no records from 1975, and he had no information on this case nor where her remains may have been taken.
This can be verified by contacting the Guadalupe County Sheriffs Department (575) 472-3711

There are three John Doe's buried at this cemetery in Albuquerque, all from 1975, although none is the infant John Doe mentioned in this thread. There is no record of her being here, either, but there are a bunch of Doe indigent burials here-


@PatLaurel has a great track record of finding old articles. I wonder if any old articles about the cases might mention where this lady and the baby were eventually buried?
 
  • #29
@PatLaurel has a great track record of finding old articles. I wonder if any old articles about the cases might mention where this lady and the baby were eventually buried?
Thanks for the compliment, @Melt71! That's very kind of you.

I'll see if I can find anything out for you.
 
  • #30
I'm not sure if this is the same Jane Doe. It states "a still unidentified victim of strangulation and sexual assault (...)", was buried in Glorieta.

March 1975 Jane Doe

ETA: It's not the same Jane Doe. This one was left in the snow and it is believed to be a victim of the Zodiac Killer.

1974 Jane Doe
 
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  • #31
There's no Find a Grave listing for a New Mexico Jane Doe that fits her. Of course, not all graves are on Find a Grave. The cemetery in Albuquerque I mentioned above was only two hours from where she was found and seems to have indigent burials from people who died in other parts of New Mexico, like Lordsburg, New Mexico (about 4 hours away from Albuquerque), as one of the 1975 John Does died there, it says.
 
  • #32
I can't find anything after the misidentification. For some reason, Newkirk JD got less attention in contrast to the 1974 JD.
I'll keep trying...

MOO JMO
 
  • #33
It would be awful if LE just discarded case files for being "old." Are there really so many that they couldn't find space to keep them, in the interest of future justice, or as information for the relatives of victims?

Computers have also been around for a long time, so copies should have been electronically saved, IMO.
 

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