GUILTY NM - Paul, 34, & Tryone Posey, 44, Marilea Schmid, 13, slain, Hondo, 5 July 2004

[Lili]

I saw the clip today of Slim talking about Posey beating the Heifer on the eye with a rock. No BULL! He clearly said Heifer.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I saw the clip today of Slim talking about Posey beating the Heifer on the eye with a rock. No BULL! He clearly said Heifer.

Oh no, I guess I got the boys and the girls mixed up ...no bull :waitasec:

 

[Gidgette]

I saw the clip today of Slim talking about Posey beating the Heifer on the eye with a rock. No BULL! He clearly said Heifer.

I just deleted my post saying I saw the same thing. OOPS!!

 

[Goody]

If there were any scarring on Cody the defense would have presented it as evidence. Any past broken bones etc wouldhave been presented. Although Cody claims a life time of blows to the head by his father he suffers no inner ear damage or hairline fractures. Absolutley no cooberating medical evidence to his claims of a life time of brutal abuse.

You just haven't been abused by the right people. I was married to a guy who knocked me around all the time and rarely did he ever leave a bruise. He knew where and how to hit so whatever coloration came up quickly faded. Mostly the only colors that did come up were red. No blues or purples. Not one single broken bone, but I did get my tailbone bruised pretty bad one time. Not a single color on the outside though.

Paul Posey was surely smart enough not to send his kid to school with really bad injuries. The worst abuse is not so much broken bones but what the constant demeaning does to your head. This boy is a textbook example of a kid being programmed to become a violent cirminal, whether Paul knew that is what he was doing or not. You have too many people testifying to witnessing these events for them to be just a fabrication by Cody. Plus you have the mother figure supporting the abuser and joining in whenever the urge moved her. And a stepsister who was totally aligned against him, even participating in the abuse by deliberately getting him into trouble at every opportunity, thus eliminating any support at all in that household. It had to be worse than being an outsider because they were all he had and they hated him...or at least made him feel they hated him. I mean, who would feel loved in a situation like that.

 

[Goody]

Frankly, I don't know why he should have shown the bodies of his tormentors any more respect in death than they showed him in life. Biology aside, they behaved more like concentrastion camp guards than family. And his attempt to "hide" the evidence of his crimes was extremely unsophisicated. It was more like he was hiding their bodies from his having the view them than from being found by anyone else. I think the true breaking point for his was the hard and cold realization that NOTHING he could do would make his father love him and that his family would not be happy until he was either dead or his soul turned into a cold hard lump of burnt charcoal like his father's. I've had to come to that type of realization with a husband, and the hopless and despair that comes with that realization makes you either want to kill yourself or kill them.

I totally agree with your summation. You have to get beyond that point to realize that you can face the confrontation, for better or worse, and survive it...or die trying. But Cody didn't have that option. If these people wanted that social security check, they would have hunted him down wherever he went and made it look like HE was the problem. That is really a no win situation.

I doubt if Cody considered Marilea to be his sister. He may have called her "sister" because he had to, but the more I hear about the dynamics in this family she had already rejected him by constantly telling on him. She knew what the consequence of her actions would be....really bad for Cody, yet she seemed to delight in it. Who knows? Maybe Marilea resented his coming into the family and wanted to get rid of him. I had a stepsister like that. I was already an adult, thank goodness, but it still was no fun. I am still taking the knives out of my back.

 

[Goody]

I saw the clip today of Slim talking about Posey beating the Heifer on the eye with a rock. No BULL! He clearly said Heifer.

When you say Posey, you are talking about Paul, aren't you?

 

[amandab]

I used to follow this case on my Sirius radio, but since getting a new vehicle last week (with XM this time), I'm hopelessly lost!! Where does the trial stand; has it gone to the jury yet? Can someone please catch me up?

Thanks!

 

[Goody]

I used to follow this case on my Sirius radio, but since getting a new vehicle last week (with XM this time), I'm hopelessly lost!! Where does the trial stand; has it gone to the jury yet? Can someone please catch me up?

Thanks!

The state is in rebuttal right now. The defense will have a rebuttal, too. Not expected to go to jury for a couple of weeks, according to Court TV estimates.

 

[Lili]

When you say Posey, you are talking about Paul, aren't you?

Yes, sorry, I should have stated...Mr. Slim Britton was speaking of Paul Posey.

 

[Goody]

Yes, sorry, I should have stated...Mr. Slim Britton was speaking of Paul Posey.

I wouldn't go that far. I knew who Slim was but almost corrected you on the Posey part because I first thought you meant Cody. But then I had second thoughts on that and decided to just ask instead.

 

[concernedperson]

I totally agree with your summation. You have to get beyond that point to realize that you can face the confrontation, for better or worse, and survive it...or die trying. But Cody didn't have that option. If these people wanted that social security check, they would have hunted him down wherever he went and made it look like HE was the problem. That is really a no win situation.

I doubt if Cody considered Marilea to be his sister. He may have called her "sister" because he had to, but the more I hear about the dynamics in this family she had already rejected him by constantly telling on him. She knew what the consequence of her actions would be....really bad for Cody, yet she seemed to delight in it. Who knows? Maybe Marilea resented his coming into the family and wanted to get rid of him. I had a stepsister like that. I was already an adult, thank goodness, but it still was no fun. I am still taking the knives out of my back.

Goody, your understanding is so great.Your perspective is the same as most people but they can't articulate as well. I truly believe Cody would be dead now if the murders hadn't happened. It was the proverbial fight or flight in a childs eye.

 

[amandab]

The state is in rebuttal right now. The defense will have a rebuttal, too. Not expected to go to jury for a couple of weeks, according to Court TV estimates.

Thanks Goody - I appreciate it.

 

[Linda7NJ]

In my opinion this kid is a cold blooded killer. Honestly, it sickens me that so many are unable to see through his facade. He premeditated the triple murder of his family and carried it out without a problem. He IS a psychopath.

 

[mysteriew]

In many families, if all the siblings are being abused....they will hang together in sympathy if not in physical support. But when one kid gets targeted, and the other seems to be given all of the positive love, attention and support- that sibling will be lumped in the same pile with the abusers. And if she took advantage of the situation, by telling on him....I think he saw her as an abuser and tormenter also. She may not have directly abused him, but if she arranged for him to be abused- that is how he would have seen her as one of the abusers. And if she ever seemed to get any enjoyment out of his abuse........

 

[Linda7NJ]

In many families, if all the siblings are being abused....they will hang together in sympathy if not in physical support. But when one kid gets targeted, and the other seems to be given all of the positive love, attention and support- that sibling will be lumped in the same pile with the abusers. And if she took advantage of the situation, by telling on him....I think he saw her as an abuser and tormenter also. She may not have directly abused him, but if she arranged for him to be abused- that is how he would have seen her as one of the abusers. And if she ever seemed to get any enjoyment out of his abuse........

By his own admission he executed her because she was a witness to the murders. Said he didn't want to spend his life in prison. Shot her in the face...TWICE after looking in her eyes and after, calmly and with forethought, murdered his father & step mother.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

By his own admission he executed her because she was a witness to the murders. Said he didn't want to spend his life in prison. Shot her in the face...TWICE after looking in her eyes and after, calmly and with forethought, murdered his father & step mother.

I think the actual shooting of Marilea & his father occured rather rapidly--the moment they entered the door. Whatever was going through his mind at the time was doing it pretty quick. There's no evidence he held them at gun point and made them beg or plead for their lives. The boy's mindset/intent was locked into place by his father & step-mother. And I don't care how many wittnesses get up there and say they didn't see the boy beaten in front of them, there is no way the prosecution can explain away the kiddy on the dad's computer, along with the incest crap, without making themselves sound like even bigger iditors than they already are. I grew up in an area as rural, if not as isolated, as New Mexico, and I know how much perversion and cruelty gets swept under the rug in small communities. My father talked about some of the things he saw and heard as a law man in a town of 500--it was enough to curl your hair and make him quit after a couple of years. The prosecution married itself to a rather rigid strategy, one I believe has a lot to do with the DA's own shortcomings, and they are paying the price of such inflexible thinking & behavior.

 

[fundiva]

In my opinion this kid is a cold blooded killer. Honestly, it sickens me that so many are unable to see through his facade. He premeditated the triple murder of his family and carried it out without a problem. He IS a psychopath.

If he is a psychopath he learned it from his father, IMO. About the shootings, I don't think there was a lot of time for him to think about anything once the first shot was taken. You would have to have some adrenadline running from anger or whatever put you over the edge to take the first shot. Once that happened it was a matter of seconds before the father ran in with the sister right behind him. I don't think anyone would have the time or be able to change their mindset from shooting the father to not shootng the sister in a split second.

 

[fundiva]

If there were any scarring on Cody the defense would have presented it as evidence. Any past broken bones etc wouldhave been presented. Although Cody claims a life time of blows to the head by his father he suffers no inner ear damage or hairline fractures. Absolutley no cooberating medical evidence to his claims of a life time of brutal abuse.

It sound like a lot of the abuse was done in the course of the ranch work. That way if something did happen (black eye, bruises, scratches, burns) it could always be blamed on the work around the ranch. IMO, the emotional abuse was a huge part of it. Making him fill a water trough with a dixie cup, paying the sister to spy on him. No wonder all the pictures of him at events or on vacations showed him smiling; he probably didn't get any of the abuse in public or he was away from his parents.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

It sound like a lot of the abuse was done in the course of the ranch work. That way if something did happen (black eye, bruises, scratches, burns) it could always be blamed on the work around the ranch. IMO, the emotional abuse was a huge part of it. Making him fill a water trough with a dixie cup, paying the sister to spy on him. No wonder all the pictures of him at events or on vacations showed him smiling; he probably didn't get any of the abuse in public or he was away from his parents.

Exactly.
Although look at the pictures of him smiling with his dad. It's rigid, almost pasted-on. And his body posture is rigid as well, elbows pulled in.

 

[concernedperson]

Exactly.
Although look at the pictures of him smiling with his dad. It's rigid, almost pasted-on. And his body posture is rigid as well, elbows pulled in.

I noticed this too and am glad you commented on it.