NM NM - Pinos Altos, Fem UP91154, 26-53, in wooded area, clothing, revolver and note, Jun'20

[Romulus]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP91154
Female, Uncertain
Date Body Found: June 25, 2020
Location Found: Pinos Altos, New Mexico
Estimated Age Range: 26-53 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Circumstances of Recovery: Skeletal remains found on US Forest service clearing brush d/t advancing forest fire. Human remains were scattered across a large area with clothing. The decedent was found deceased with a deceased male related to 2020-4358. A loaded .357 revolver was found near the remains along with a note.

 

[Hochman]

Footwear & jewelry found on/near remains

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I wish they had a photo of the note that is referenced. How do they know they’re related, do they mean dying at the same time or related in the familial sense? Maybe because the remains were in the same area?

Could this be a murder-suicide?

 

[Janmandan]

Here's the male's Namus that she was found with

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Janmandan]

I wish they had a photo of the note that is referenced. How do they know they’re related, do they mean dying at the same time or related in the familial sense? Maybe because the remains were in the same area?

Could this be a murder-suicide?

It seems both skeletons were intertwined with each other, since looking at both Namus's, they do share some of the same photos of items, as if they don't know who the stuff belonged too. I do think this was a murder suicide, i mean a loaded gun near two bodies?

 

[iulia]

Article from July 2020

Human remains found near P.A.

Human remains were found in the Gila National Forest near the Ben Lilly Monument on June 24, according to a report filed by the Grant County Sheriff’s Office. Authorities are not releasing any identifying information related to the discovery, which was reported by U.S. Forest Service personnel...

www.scdailypress.com

No identification was found in a backpack next to the body, but detectives reported finding “a notebook with suicide notes” inside one of the backpacks at the scene.

“Inside one of the backpacks,” the report continues, another detective “found an old Walmart receipt being dated Aug. 5, 2015.”

“We also located female undergarments and located male clothing on the scene,” the report stated.

Detectives recovered a Smith & Wesson revolver from the scene, but were unable to read the weapon’s serial number due to rust.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Footwear & jewelry found on/near remains

From left to right the items look to me like
-A pack of matches
-A women's watch
-A man's watch
-A pocketknife
-Binoculars
-A pill pack
-Glasses+case
-Ballpoint pen (unsure if that's related)

 

[iulia]

Just above the pills I see something that looks to me like a black lizard earring. Something kind of like this:

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[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping up. Both are still listed in NamUs as unidentified. It's a little surprising that seemingly no one has reported a couple who are missing together, which is my assumption.

Because of the receipt, they must have gone missing between August 5, 2015 and sometime in early 2020.

I guess they must have paid in cash or else the credit/debit card could have probably been traced(?)

I think this case will eventually be solved, either by DNA or by someone reporting them as two people missing together...

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Just based on the date and locations near NM, I wonder if she could be one of the following women:

Michelle A., 32-y.o., missing from Texas in October 2015. Few details are available in her case.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

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Joy S., 45-y.o., missing from Colorado in Oct. 2015. She had reported fraudulent activity on her bank account prior to going missing.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Krislyn G, 35 y.o., missing from Texas in 2016. She went missing along with a male friend, and they are both probable homicide victims. Could this be them? What if the weapon and suicide notes were staged?
Interestingly, the suspect had a receipt from Walmart.

Krislyn Gibson – The Charley Project

I am going to look further into this last possibilty...

 

[Loshadel]

Just based on the date and locations near NM, I wonder if she could be one of the following women:

Michelle A., 32-y.o., missing from Texas in October 2015. Few details are available in her case.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Joy S., 45-y.o., missing from Colorado in Oct. 2015. She had reported fraudulent activity on her bank account prior to going missing.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Krislyn G, 35 y.o., missing from Texas in 2016. She went missing along with a male friend, and they are both probable homicide victims. Could this be them? What if the weapon and suicide notes were staged?
Interestingly, the suspect had a receipt from Walmart.

Krislyn Gibson – The Charley Project

I am going to look further into this last possibilty...

Krislyn’s killer was convicted and stated that he wrapped the body in plastic tarps/shower curtains, so that makes me think it’s not her

 

[Loshadel]

The watches seem like the would belong to older adult individuals, who despite the cane would still be active enough for the hike. After hours of searching all male names in the NM missing persons lost, I strongly believe this may be Abraham Jimenez, 74, & Raquel Rodriguez, 53 who went missing from Roswell, NM in 2015. The ages and heights line up, but Abraham was not black.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Krislyn’s killer was convicted and stated that he wrapped the body in plastic tarps/shower curtains, so that makes me think it’s not her

Hi, I also have a feeling it's not them, though I don't believe what the suspect says, because if he wants to tell the truth, he can tell exactly where his victims are. But I assume they are in Texas, because Texas is vast...

The watches seem like the would belong to older adult individuals, who despite the cane would still be active enough for the hike. After hours of searching all male names in the NM missing persons lost, I strongly believe this may be Abraham Jimenez, 74, & Raquel Rodriguez, 53 who went missing from Roswell, NM in 2015. The ages and heights line up, but Abraham was not black.

Thank you for looking into the case. I'll try to submit both possibilities and report back.

 

[PeriwinkleE]

My mistake.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Here's the male's Namus that she was found with

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

What is the object below the glasses and pipe. Is that the pill case or something else?

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Here's more on Jiminez and Rodriguez. If the Walmart receipt date is correct, it would have been four months later from when they were first believed to have gone missing.

Suspicion surrounds missing New Mexico couple

Police and deputies around New Mexico are looking for a couple that vanished almost two weeks ago. Officials say the disappearance is suspicious.

www.krqe.com

 

[PeriwinkleE]

What is the object below the glasses and pipe. Is that the pill case or something else?

View attachment 496717

Is that not a knife? It looks like a folding knife to me.

 

[Otterly]

The male was added to Doe Network yesterday, but the female wasn't. (I couldn't find a thread for the male, so I'm posting this here.)

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/main.html?id=4095UMNM

 

[Otterly]

I'm not sure why there was the week difference in when their profiles were published, but the female doe in this case was added to Doe Network today:

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/main.html?id=1803UFNM

 

[Susikatze]

Their belongings make me think both were older adults or elderly. I see a walking cane in the first image, too. Also the pipe, 1980s binoculars and the style of glasses, yes some young people also wear/use that but it seems our UiD were older. They also seem well to do and not transient or homeless.
Maybe assisted suicide for a sick spouse or murder suicide where both were depressed?
I wish the note was published.