NM - Tera Chavez, 26, found dead in her Los Lunas home, 22 Oct 2007 - #1

  • #1,861
He said something about suicide having to do with a person's feeling of self worth and feeling of okayness. Okayness? I hope he keeps talking. He is condescending to the jury, he said something like 'if you can try to follow...'

Sorry doc but I'd rather pick my nose and make shadow monsters on the wall with my hands than pay attention.

I have negative feelings of self worth often, but I sure as heck ain't thinking about killing myself.
 
  • #1,862
9:15 AM
Anna V @Anna_Velasquez
Entire plate of food thrown into garbage can, found by investigators that night. Berman says shows rage in suicidal behavior #LeviChavez
 
  • #1,863
Ok, I'm not sure he can say definitively anything about Tera--he never met her nor analyzed her personally. She was certainly not his patient. He's taking all of this from her texts and her journal, which oftentimes, are fleeting thoughts. I wonder how much he is being paid by the defense?

Good points! Let's hope the state asks those questions.
 
  • #1,864
So now he's going to testify about something he just read over this very morning. How much thought can anybody put into info that fresh.
 
  • #1,865
9:15 AM
Anna V @Anna_Velasquez
Entire plate of food thrown into garbage can, found by investigators that night. Berman says shows rage in suicidal behavior #LeviChavez

At least it was thrown in the garbage can--means nothing to me. Had it been thrown at a person, child or even a dog, I can see reading more into it. My husband has probably thrown a plate of food in the garbage if he didn't like it.
This man is bound to be Serna's brother--they both have a wonderful way of twisting things up to appear to be important and factual, when in actuality, they are not.
 
  • #1,866
That was an important shot Mr Cameraman of someone's whoopie cushion.
 
  • #1,867
serna isn't prepared. Why isn't anyone shocked?
 
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He said something about suicide having to do with a person's feeling of self worth and feeling of okayness. Okayness? I hope he keeps talking. He is condescending to the jury, he said something like 'if you can try to follow...'

Sorry doc but I'd rather pick my nose and make shadow monsters on the wall with my hands than pay attention.

If I felt that he was being objective and constructing his thoughts from a purely medical point of view, I would be more inclined to latch onto his every word. He is a defense witness and most defense witnesses are 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, out to make money. Sorry, that's a harsh sentence but true.
 
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He said something about suicide having to do with a person's feeling of self worth and feeling of okayness. Okayness? I hope he keeps talking. He is condescending to the jury, he said something like 'if you can try to follow...'

Sorry doc but I'd rather pick my nose and make shadow monsters on the wall with my hands than pay attention.

As a nurse I have used that word Okayness when explaining different things to patients. I have also heard it used by other medical professionals.
 
  • #1,872
So I'm hearing anger in these texts, not suicide threats.
 
  • #1,873
My heart breaks for Tera. Poor darling what a mess she was in. She was so hard on herself.
 
  • #1,874
If the prosecution is on the ball, they will take those same texts and parallel them with the dates he was cheating on her and/or had left her. I hope the prosecution will not just leave all of this on the table. There is plenty in this man's testimony the prosectuion can fight, but they have to have their ducks in a row.
 
  • #1,875
9:32 AM
Anna V @Anna_Velasquez
From this angle, can't tell what #LeviChavez is doing but he's blinking fast, listening

I was thinking that LC was trying to make it look like he was crying.
 
  • #1,876
So I'm hearing anger in these texts, not suicide threats.

Poor Tera. Her diary really sounds like she tried so hard to make her marriage work. She sounds angry, lonely and fed up. I would hope that the state will cross exam and get this expert to read further and show how the defense cherry picked passages.
 
  • #1,877
If the prosecution is on the ball, they will take those same texts and parallel them with the dates he was cheating on her and/or had left her. I hope the prosecution will not just leave all of this on the table. There is plenty in this man's testimony the prosectuion can fight, but they have to have their ducks in a row.

Yes Yes if the PT has some strategy this is the time to play it.
 
  • #1,878
Poor Tera. Her diary really sounds like she tried so hard to make her marriage work. She sounds angry, lonely and fed up. I would hope that the state will cross exam and get this expert to read further and show how the defense cherry picked passages.

ITA. They'd better squeeze this witness like real prosecutors. So far, their work has me unimpressed.
 
  • #1,879
I do not buy this experts facts.

I would never blow my head off if I decided to commit suicide!
 
  • #1,880
I have been googling suicide by women and the majority are with handguns. I am very surprised at this statistic.





Women





All adults

Firearm


14,734


56.0%





2,149


30.7%





16,883


50.7%

Suffocation/hanging


6,173


23.5%





1,318


18.9%





7,491


22.5%

Poisoning


3,294


12.5%





2,815


40.3%





6,109


18.3%

Fall


535


2.0%





190


2.7%





725


2.2%

Cut/pierce


506


1.9%





92


1.3%





598


1.8%

Other Spec., classifiable


266


1.0%





93


1.3%





359


1.1%

Drowning


254


1.0%





148


2.1%





402


1.2%

Other Spec., NEC


195


0.7%





66


0.9%





261


0.8%

Fire/burn


140


0.5%





53


0.8%





193


0.6%

Unspecified


108


0.4%





33


0.5%





141


0.4%

Transportation related


102


0.4%





35


0.5%





137


0.4%

Struck by or against


1


0.0%





0


0.0%





1


0.0%

Total


26,308








6,992








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