NM - Tera Chavez, 26, found dead in her Los Lunas home, 22 Oct 2007 - #2

  • #361
Sorry, GeeVee, I've lost my post to you twice now. And it does look like it's time for me to move on. You should know that my path crossed Mr. Serna's many years ago when he was a prosecutor and I was the victim of a violent crime. So, I do have some things in common with you all. But we'll agree to disagree about this case: we truly believe Levi is a victim here, and that Tera committed suicide.

Peace.
 
  • #362
I am still a little upset about the outcome of this trial....but....it is what it is! I am disappointed that the Cordova famiy did not get the outcome they wanted but I hope they can learn to live with this outcome. I was sending them the strength that they need to wake up today and go on with their lives, I hope they felt stronger today!

Mrs. Serna perhaps you could go to the verified posters forum and thread and contact the owner of this website and become a verified poster, if you are interested. Once you become a verified poster than we know for certain that you are who you say you are. I am not being rude but being verified is a good thing on WS if you want to post as who you say you are. Being verified gives weight to your position. Many people become "verified", locals, lawyers, doctors, and people who are invovled in the cases. In any case thank you for your opinion.

I am not sure that I want to follow Andrea Schneiderman because it seems like it might be another Ms. Arias case. I am not sure that I can take all that lieing again. But I have to admit I have looked at some of the case.

Thank you to all of the trial watchers on this thread, you have been a comfort during this strange, strange trial. I hope to "see" you again on other trials.
 
  • #363
Welcome to Websleuths Mrs. Serna :welcome:
I will definitely take you up on your offer. I find defense attorneys fascinating and I appreciate the inside scoop. Have you considered contacting Tricia to be verified as a local/insider? This would be most helpful. On many cases I've participated on these boards we appreciate the insight of defense attorneys. In the Casey Anthony case we picked the brain of Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby. Now for my questions. I promise I'm not being snarky in anything I ask.

Was it your husband's idea for Levi to use his rosary? His actions with his wives and lovers, not to mention his history of insurance fraud and other questionable behaviors certainly belie the image of a devout Catholic, and seem to be pandering to what would almost certainly be a predominantly Roman Catholic jury. I read on another case here that a certain defense attorney advised his client not to shower throughout his trial as to appear "crazy" as they were attempting a mental defect case. Also in the Jodi Arias case, her attorneys clearly dressed her down to look like a mousy librarian. Just curious if the rosary was strategic. It appeared to be. And it clearly paid off.

In your opinion did the judge appear to be overly favorable to the defense? This was the perception of many trial watchers I know (and I have family in the Albuquerque area).

I am also interested in your insights regarding the towel, deleted messages, the "missing" cell phone, and computer searches as other posters have commented. I will await those responses.

I remember asking a defense attorney on this site about how they go about defending an obviously guilty client, and what that person said was that they don't ever ask the client if they did it. That way they are not being disingenuous as to theories etc that they may present at trial. Is this something mr Serna does as well?

As many posters have pointed out, this is a victim friendly forum. We do see many cases where there is a wide
disparity between support for the prosecution vs support for the defense. There have been recent cases where the divide was more narrow. Many posters, myself included, sided with the defense in the recent Zimmerman trial. Other times there are a few very vocal posters for the defense (I am thinking back to Jason Young trial and retrial) and although they were in the minority their opinions and insights were welcomed.

I approach all the cases I follow on this site with an open mind. As events unfold, I try to be objective and weigh each bit of information from a practical standpoint. Sometimes something doesn't pass the "sniff test" but legally speaking may not be a case that can be successfully prosecuted. Does that make sense? I think unfortunately as well, we have the CSI effect for both criminals and juries. Criminals get weekly instructional videos as to how to evade law enforcement on shows like CSI, and likewise, jurors expect the neat little CSI solutions that are served up on these shows. Unfortunately many jurors don't understand the concept of circumstantial evidence or reasonable doubt. They misinterpret it as "beyond a shadow of a doubt" and think that any doubt means you have to acquit. But that's a discussion for another day I suppose!

Anyway, thanks :thanks: again for your insights.
 
  • #364
Thanks, Thundar, for the advice. I don't think I'll be sticking around because it'll bug people. Plus, I hate watching trials! I want to retire and garden every day. :)
 
  • #365
Hello everybody! Am I ever late getting here this morning. I had the worst night ever--with awful storms, weather related phone calls after midnight, dogs that are scared to death of thunder. I moved us from room to room several times trying to calm them down--they are small dog breeds who don't appear to be afraid of a 225 pound human but storms scare the stuffing out of them. I got 2.5 hours of sleep, got up for a few hours early this morning, then laid back down for a couple of hours. I feel like myself again, my blood sugar is back to normal, thank goodness.
I had Mrs. Serna on my mind much of the time I couldn't sleep. While I appreciate her willingness to provide insight and answers, it's a first for me that a defense attorney's wife ever came on here to interact with us.
I do want to remind her that most of us have been at it, that is, watching and following trials, for many years. We have a good feel for what's what. All of my adult life has been pro-law enforcement and prosecution because that was my career in my very early adult life. We are not lonely housewives who seek out these cases because of boredom. Websleuths is filled with professional people in the legal field, the medical field, other highly educated career paths. Heck, I have a Ph.D--my screen name could be DrNCEast if that means anything, it certainly doesn't to me. I have an adopted daughter who is an attorney in the Attorney General's office in Raleigh. We all have our personal reasons for being here that matter to us individually....we are not here to beat up anybody....we just want a fair outcome for the victims. We basically get pulled into these cases because we want justice--some victims who may be local to us, others who are not.
Seemingly, there are more and more cases involving dirty cops and those drive me crazy. There should never, ever be a dirty cop....but there are unethical doctors, CPAs, lawyers....the list goes on and on. We are a watchdog group in a sense, and we do have excellent sleuthing abilities. Look at everything we pulled up on the various players in this Chavez case....the were lots and lots of questionable criminal acts committed by LC's relatives that could not be brought out in this trial. I wish the jury could have been aware of everything we discovered that they were not privy to. Had they seen the whole picture regarding LC's connections to his relatives' crimes, and how he may have taken a few lessons from how they were carried out, the verdict in this trial could have possibly been guilty instead of not guilty. Who knows.....
So, while I appreciate Mrs. Serna's willingness to try to explain to us the ins and outs of what we don't know or may not understand, I am just ready to move on. Nothing we find out at this moment in time will change the verdict.
I know in reading through the posts this morning (too rapidly--will go back over them again after another cup of coffee) several upcoming trials have been mentioned. Let me remind everybody that the Haze/Hayes murder trial in Durham is scheduled for next month and it will be a darn good one so try to squeeze it into your planning.
I'm going to go back and re-read everybody's posts/thoughts/ideas again in a moment, I need more coffee.
I hope each of you is well and that this blasted heat isn't leaking into your house as it seems to be mine. I am so looking forward to October and the cool, crisp air of fall!

Thanks just isn't enough on your post. I can't always put into words what I am feeling. You did it for me and I thank you for that.
 
  • #366
Thanks, Thundar, for the advice. I don't think I'll be sticking around because it'll bug people. Plus, I hate watching trials! I want to retire and garden every day. :)

Mrs. Serna, if you leave I want you to know we appreciate what you were trying to do, even though we just don't agree about LC. If I were married to a defense attorney, I would probably feel all of the same emotions that you do.
I, too, love gardening. If I ever fly out to Albuquerque, I'll look you up! I had a very dear friend who lived there but died last year. Her daughter is there and I very well may make the trip some day. I kept saying for what seems like 100 years that I was going to go visit my elderly friend and I never did, due to hers and my own health issues. Now I wish I had.
In any event, your coming on here has been a first for me. I wish you well.
 
  • #367
Mrs. Serna, if you leave I want you to know we appreciate what you were trying to do, even though we just don't agree about LC. If I were married to a defense attorney, I would probably feel all of the same emotions that you do.
I, too, love gardening. If I ever fly out to Albuquerque, I'll look you up! I had a very dear friend who lived there but died last year. Her daughter is there and I very well may make the trip some day. I kept saying for what seems like 100 years that I was going to go visit my elderly friend and I never did, due to hers and my own health issues. Now I wish I had.
In any event, your coming on here has been a first for me. I wish you well.

That would be very cool. I would love to show you my flowers and fruit trees. This is a very beautiful part of the country.
 
  • #368
That would be very cool. I would love to show you my flowers and fruit trees. This is a very beautiful part of the country.

Absolutely! When this trial began, I didn't know how to spell Albequerque and just finally forced myself to learn it this past weekend. But in researching the background of this case, I saw gorgeous pictures of the area in several internet searches. It's a different type of beauty than we have in the east. I'm out here with a nice yard but my neighbors are pigs and cows. They, thankfully, don't cause any problems and never get into trouble with law enforcement :)
 
  • #369
Eeeek.... ashamed to live in Albuquerque, NM right now!

You and me both. I didn't find out until I got home from work last night.
 
  • #370
You and me both. I didn't find out until I got home from work last night.

Please don't feel that way, you can't help the way the trial ended. It's a lovely city, with lovely people for the most part. Seems this jury just got it wrong.
After thinking through the bullet request as the only evidence the jury wanted, and then finding out right before the verdict was read yesterday that the jury foreman was a man, I can see how maybe his thoughts could have lead the female majority into thinking one way or another. Some men, as we saw in LC, have a way of influencing women. Not always a good thing.
 
  • #371
I feel like I can finally put my thoughts into words now after thinking about it most of the day. I have found today that I have been getting very angry about this thread since last night. I need to let these feelings go.

I don't feel the need to apologize about my feelings or reactions to LC he (imo) is so deserving of them. LC is a liar and a cheater and imo always will be one. Just like LC tried to sway Tera, he did so with his attorney. I do believe this jury got it wrong and LC was guilty of Murder. imo

After reading about the Chavez men in LC family, the apple probably doesn't fall from the cart.

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ALL THAT IS STATED ABOVE IS IN MY OPINION ONLY!
 
  • #372
I feel like I can finally put my thoughts into words now after thinking about it most of the day. I have found today that I have been getting very angry about this thread since last night. I need to let these feelings go.

I don't feel the need to apologize about my feelings or reactions to LC he (imo) is so deserving of them. LC is a liar and a cheater and imo always will be one. Just like LC tried to sway Tera, he did so with his attorney. I do believe this jury got it wrong and LC was guilty of Murder. imo

After reading about the Chavez men in LC family, the apple probably doesn't fall from the cart.

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ALL THAT IS STATED ABOVE IS IN MY OPINION ONLY!

We love you Jewels and want you to vent those frustrations. It's healthy to vent. We really don't know if Mrs. Serna was truly Mrs. Serna so don't think about her any more....it's just negative energy. I tried to be nice to her because none of us wanted to be baited yesterday or today, especially after the guilty verdict we were all struggling with. We were all very gracious and nice to her and she was too when it was all said and done.

I am praying that LE will charge LC in the auto theft and insurance fraud issues. In addition, I hope the civil attorney for the Cordova parents know the history of the Chavez men and can get their misdeeds on the record for that trial. Unlike this trial in which so much history couldn't be brought out, civil trials have more relaxed 'rules'. I have been thinking about the upcoming civil trial a lot today. I wonder if LC loses and has to personally pay a huge sum of money to the Cordova family, if his marriage will endure. I'm not thinking so.
 
  • #373
I feel like I can finally put my thoughts into words now after thinking about it most of the day. I have found today that I have been getting very angry about this thread since last night. I need to let these feelings go.

I don't feel the need to apologize about my feelings or reactions to LC he (imo) is so deserving of them. LC is a liar and a cheater and imo always will be one. Just like LC tried to sway Tera, he did so with his attorney. I do believe this jury got it wrong and LC was guilty of Murder. imo

After reading about the Chavez men in LC family, the apple probably doesn't fall from the cart.

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ALL THAT IS STATED ABOVE IS IN MY OPINION ONLY!

I forgot to mention in my last note that I totally agree with you about LC. His rosary and his going to church to pray yesterday after the verdict, etc., and plans to continue to go to church is just salt in the wound as far as I am concerned. He has a very bad track record and while I know that people can change and turn their lives around, he's one that I will just have to take a wait and see approach to. Again, I totally agree with your feelings. You are very justified in feeling the way you do, we all feel the same.
 
  • #374
I feel like I can finally put my thoughts into words now after thinking about it most of the day. I have found today that I have been getting very angry about this thread since last night. I need to let these feelings go.

I don't feel the need to apologize about my feelings or reactions to LC he (imo) is so deserving of them. LC is a liar and a cheater and imo always will be one. Just like LC tried to sway Tera, he did so with his attorney. I do believe this jury got it wrong and LC was guilty of Murder. imo

After reading about the Chavez men in LC family, the apple probably doesn't fall from the cart.

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ALL THAT IS STATED ABOVE IS IN MY OPINION ONLY!

(((hug))) I'm so sorry you're upset, Jewel. :(
 
  • #375
We love you Jewels and want you to vent those frustrations. It's healthy to vent. We really don't know if Mrs. Serna was truly Mrs. Serna so don't think about her any more....it's just negative energy. I tried to be nice to her because none of us wanted to be baited yesterday or today, especially after the guilty verdict we were all struggling with. We were all very gracious and nice to her and she was too when it was all said and done.

I am praying that LE will charge LC in the auto theft and insurance fraud issues. In addition, I hope the civil attorney for the Cordova parents know the history of the Chavez men and can get their misdeeds on the record for that trial. Unlike this trial in which so much history couldn't be brought out, civil trials have more relaxed 'rules'. I have been thinking about the upcoming civil trial a lot today. I wonder if LC loses and has to personally pay a huge sum of money to the Cordova family, if his marriage will endure. I'm not thinking so.

Thanks for backing me up. I wanted to say so much more, it was just way too personal to say, so I didn't. Like you said in an earlier post that so many of us are victims of crime or know some one who was one.

I just wish we had our own thread and know we can't have that here.

I forgot again to tell you NCE that my son and his family are in Wilmington, NC. I think that is right. Is that close to Myrtle Beach?
 
  • #376
Thanks for backing me up. I wanted to say so much more, it was just way too personal to say, so I didn't. Like you said in an earlier post that so many of us are victims of crime or know some one who was one.

I just wish we had our own thread and know we can't have that here.

I forgot again to tell you NCE that my son and his family are in Wilmington, NC. I think that is right. Is that close to Myrtle Beach?

Not far from Myrtle Beach at all. I was born in Wilmington, my dad's family still lives there, what's left of it. Wilmington has grown so much since I was young, it's a terrific place to live. Lots of excellent restaurants :) And just a few miles from Wrightsville Beach. If you ever visit your son, let me know!
 
  • #377
Not far from Myrtle Beach at all. I was born in Wilmington, my dad's family still lives there, what's left of it. Wilmington has grown so much since I was young, it's a terrific place to live. Lots of excellent restaurants :) And just a few miles from Wrightsville Beach. If you ever visit your son, let me know!

I get in such of a hurry to tell something I forget to tell the whole story Sorry! They are just on vacation there this week, dil had a family reunion last weekend and they decided to stay. I believe it was the Tracey family, not sure of the spelling.

We lived for just 1 yr in Virginia and during that 1 yr our house was broken into while we were gone. We had come back to the mid-west for Christmas and our next door neighbor's son broke into our house. The cops were looking for my DH before we even got home. They had found a gift he had purchased in the guys van.
 
  • #378
Very telling
[video=youtube;MCOWhGEGWGI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOWhGEGWGI[/video]
 
  • #379
I forgot to mention in my last note that I totally agree with you about LC. His rosary and his going to church to pray yesterday after the verdict, etc., and plans to continue to go to church is just salt in the wound as far as I am concerned. He has a very bad track record and while I know that people can change and turn their lives around, he's one that I will just have to take a wait and see approach to. Again, I totally agree with your feelings. You are very justified in feeling the way you do, we all feel the same.
This just burned my hide. I do not like hypocrites in any form and to me he is the epitome of hypocrisy. Where was his devotion while he was doing what he did with several women, neglecting his wife, and IMO, doing crimes? All of a sudden NOW he is religious? Oy vey. People like him do not change. Already been through that.
 
  • #380
That's the same news clip I mentioned late yesterday afternoon. I saw it on the station news, I had cut my feed to the courtroom. His cocky, arrogant, true blue colors were there for all the world to see. He'll get his punishment sooner or later. He left Heather walking 40 feet behind him. That's an omen and she better wake up.
 

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