"no red flags"

[songline]

The email is only on page #2802 and is not dated. Page #2803 is titled CD from John A. and has a file on it dated 6/21/08. The file is the photos received from the photographer who took the pictures at Fusian on 6/20/08.

It is taken off Cindys computer, right
One followed the other, so would not that mean it is about the same time.??

 

[Dear Prudence]

It is taken off Cindys computer, right
One followed the other, so would not that mean it is about the same time.??

No, it's an OCSO report. Not everything on the report is about Cindy's computer. The CD from John A. has nothing to do with Cindy's computer. He was a photographer that Fusian hired to take photos at the club. LE had to ask him several times to hand over all the photos he took at Fusian.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Add to this Caylee's doll ~ one it's been reported she never parted with ~ was still in the car when it was found on 7/15. So are we supposed to also believe that ZFG bought an identical doll for her to play with, and that Caylee would accept it? Something like that is usually very personal to a child, and they want to carry "that one" everywhere. :waitasec: MOO

being a mom and grandmom (having to retrace my steps or retrieve a favorite toy left somewhere on many occasions) , that doll being in the car at the tow yard would have struck fear into my heart from the get-go.... GIANT Red Flag that something was terribly wrong. You know...Cindy has stated repeatedly how Caylee wouldn't go anywhere without THAT doll and it being in the car didn't immediatly raise a Red Flag?... even BEFORE she found Casey? Nope, I sure ain't buying it.....jmo

 

[OneLostGrl]

Instead of wearing the American flag to the ABC party, KC should have just worn one great big RED one.

:clap: Amen!

 

[OneLostGrl]

That should be your signature!!! :clap::clap:

haha! I agree - That kicked a$$, didn't it?

 

[LancelotLink]

Add to this Caylee's doll ~ one it's been reported she never parted with ~ was still in the car when it was found on 7/15. So are we supposed to also believe that ZFG bought an identical doll for her to play with, and that Caylee would accept it? Something like that is usually very personal to a child, and they want to carry "that one" everywhere. :waitasec: MOO

Exactly! So many red flags. So little action.

 

[Valhall]

being a mom and grandmom (having to retrace my steps or retrieve a favorite toy left somewhere on many occasions) , that doll being in the car at the tow yard would have struck fear into my heart from the get-go.... GIANT Red Flag that something was terribly wrong. You know...Cindy has stated repeatedly how Caylee wouldn't go anywhere without THAT doll and it being in the car didn't immediatly raise a Red Flag?... even BEFORE she found Casey? Nope, I sure ain't buying it.....jmo

I've got a feeling that KC being unable to satisfactorily explain to Cindy why the doll did not go with Caylee when she was "handed over to Zani" at the apartment is just one of the reasons the whole story changed to the Jay Blanchard park scene where Caylee was whisked away.

 

[Lexington]

being a mom and grandmom (having to retrace my steps or retrieve a favorite toy left somewhere on many occasions) , that doll being in the car at the tow yard would have struck fear into my heart from the get-go.... GIANT Red Flag that something was terribly wrong. You know...Cindy has stated repeatedly how Caylee wouldn't go anywhere without THAT doll and it being in the car didn't immediatly raise a Red Flag?... even BEFORE she found Casey? Nope, I sure ain't buying it.....jmo

Huge red flag. Also, on gas can day, did George notice that the doll was in the car? I would think that he wouldn't walk blindly to get his gas cans without scoping out the contents of the car since no one had seen or talked to Caylee since June 15/16th and he was trained LE. I don't think he was ever asked what he observed in the car proper by LE/FBI.

 

[Lexington]

I've got a feeling that KC being unable to satisfactorily explain to Cindy why the doll did not go with Caylee when she was "handed over to Zani" at the apartment is just one of the reasons the whole story changed to the Jay Blanchard park scene where Caylee was whisked away.

Also because of the video cameras at Sawgrass, which LE mentioned that they had checked and showed that she wasn't there.

 

[yolorado]

Also because of the video cameras at Sawgrass, which LE mentioned that they had checked and showed that she wasn't there.

Do we know that the video cam at the Sawgrass is real, or were the police just throwing that out there ? Sawgrass vids have never emerged from the Doc Dumps. If the vid cam was real and rollin', do we know if they checked the 9th when they couldn't find anything or the 15th? At first 'Totmom' and Totmommom were both saying they hadn't see Caylee since the 9th. If there is vid, perhaps they had it for the 9th but not the 15th for some reason.

 

[yolorado]

Huge red flag. Also, on gas can day, did George notice that the doll was in the car? I would think that he wouldn't walk blindly to get his gas cans without scoping out the contents of the car since no one had seen or talked to Caylee since June 15/16th and he was trained LE. I don't think he was ever asked what he observed in the car proper by LE/FBI.

Had dinner with a friend the other night who told a story about her parents on vacation driving back 4 hours to the motel to get her precious stuffed animal which had been left there. Then, the next day they had to retrace the 4 hours from the day before. These special objects can be extremely important to children. Depending on Caylee's level of attachment (which Cindy said was deep), finding her doll in a car without her which also smelled like a dead body also containing her mother's apparently abandoned purse could be the mother of all red flags.

 

[Lexington]

Do we know that the video cam at the Sawgrass is real, or were the police just throwing that out there ? Sawgrass vids have never emerged from the Doc Dumps. If the vid cam was real and rollin', do we know if they checked the 9th when they couldn't find anything or the 15th? At first 'Totmom' and Totmommom were both saying they hadn't see Caylee since the 9th. If there is vid, perhaps they had it for the 9th but not the 15th for some reason.

I think that they were lying to KC about their checking out the video. I don't know if there was a video cam there or not, or if there was it would have recorded over after a certain amount of time. KC however must have believed them and was one of the reasons she changed the location to JBP.

 

[yolorado]

I think that they were lying to KC about their checking out the video. I don't know if there was a video cam there or not, or if there was it would have recorded over after a certain amount of time. KC however must have believed them and was one of the reasons she changed the location to JBP.

I've always thought this too. At the time, the cops knew there was only a vacant appartment where Caylee said she left the baby. It seemed like they may have been inventing a vid cam to get her to admit she hadn't left Caylee where she said she did.

 

[Lexington]

I think that they were lying to KC about their checking out the video. I don't know if there was a video cam there or not, or if there was it would have recorded over after a certain amount of time. KC however must have believed them and was one of the reasons she changed the location to JBP.

In addition. This JBP story first arose when KC was out on bail (LP's bailout). She might not have arrived at the JBP story on her own, but had help from CA/GA/LA who did not know if LE was lying about the video cam or not. They probably had a family consultation to figure out a better story. IMO

 

[Pondering Mind]

Huge red flag. Also, on gas can day, did George notice that the doll was in the car? I would think that he wouldn't walk blindly to get his gas cans without scoping out the contents of the car since no one had seen or talked to Caylee since June 15/16th and he was trained LE. I don't think he was ever asked what he observed in the car proper by LE/FBI.

Good question, I've never thought about that...and the car seat too! red flag, red flag, red flag.

None are so blind as those who choose not to see.....

 

[Pondering Mind]

Had dinner with a friend the other night who told a story about her parents on vacation driving back 4 hours to the motel to get her precious stuffed animal which had been left there. Then, the next day they had to retrace the 4 hours from the day before. These special objects can be extremely important to children. Depending on Caylee's level of attachment (which Cindy said was deep), finding her doll in a car without her which also smelled like a dead body also containing her mother's apparently abandoned purse could be the mother of all red flags.

I have done that very thing...all for a soft, worn out ragdoll of my daughters, that my son was SO attached to and would not sleep without. 20 years later, I still have that thing packed up in the attic! :crazy:

 

[magic-cat]

Do we know that the video cam at the Sawgrass is real, or were the police just throwing that out there ? Sawgrass vids have never emerged from the Doc Dumps. If the vid cam was real and rollin', do we know if they checked the 9th when they couldn't find anything or the 15th? At first 'Totmom' and Totmommom were both saying they hadn't see Caylee since the 9th. If there is vid, perhaps they had it for the 9th but not the 15th for some reason.

I've always thought this too. At the time, the cops knew there was only a vacant appartment where Caylee said she left the baby. It seemed like they may have been inventing a vid cam to get her to admit she hadn't left Caylee where she said she did.

I think that they were lying to KC about their checking out the video. I don't know if there was a video cam there or not, or if there was it would have recorded over after a certain amount of time. KC however must have believed them and was one of the reasons she changed the location to JBP.

We had a thread with a Sawgrass resident and they verified that there are, in fact, video cameras at Sawgrass.

 

[Valhall]

I have done that very thing...all for a soft, worn out ragdoll of my daughters, that my son was SO attached to and would not sleep without. 20 years later, I still have that thing packed up in the attic! :crazy:

We did something similar. My daughter, who had received a stuffed toy as a Christmas present from her grandmother on the east coast (who she had only seen once) left her beloved toy in a motel room 5 hours away from our home. This was when she was about 9 years old. She didn't realize she had left it until we got home to unpack. She was devastated. We phoned the motel, they had the doll, and we paid to have it fed-ex'd home.

 

[DAWN TREADER]

Poor little Caylee -- it's just heartbreaking how vulnerable (defenseless) she and all children are against persons who would do them harm.

 

[shgrbkr]

being a mom and grandmom (having to retrace my steps or retrieve a favorite toy left somewhere on many occasions) , that doll being in the car at the tow yard would have struck fear into my heart from the get-go.... GIANT Red Flag that something was terribly wrong. You know...Cindy has stated repeatedly how Caylee wouldn't go anywhere without THAT doll and it being in the car didn't immediatly raise a Red Flag?... even BEFORE she found Casey? Nope, I sure ain't buying it.....jmo

EXACTLY!!! Particularly when combined with the "smell of death" emanating from the car, detectable at least 3 feet away.