NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #1

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  • #761
We don't know if he lost a boatload of money,but even if he did, it doesn't explain him taking an arsenal to his gambling vacation. He had all the weapons at the ready before he started gambling, as far as we know. (unless he went home a few times and brought in more guns???) Maybe cell pings could trace his whereabouts for 4 days. Guess it's too soon to know if he brought all the weapons with him on Thursday. JMO
 
  • #762
Wonder if law enforcement will mandate an autopsy and brain study to see if something pathological could have caused
this?
Something like a tumor on the amygdala or another area that controls behavior could have manifested and caused this.
 
  • #763
Love the video of the people lined up to give blood. I would SO BE THERE!

In past mass shootings like this, some of us on WS have used the incidents as reminders to donate blood wherever we happen to live. I did that for Orlando, and I can do it again. Blood is almost always needed.

And it's SOMETHING we can do, even if it doesn't directly help the vicitims of this crime or solve the problem.

jmo
 
  • #764
Or just generally developing a "chip on his shoulder" that generalized to always blaming others when he didn't get what he wanted or was unhappy. He was also likely unhappy over his loss in the lawsuit a couple of years ago, when he claimed he was disabled from an injury at the Cosmopolitan hotel/casino.

Interesting that no former friends or co-workers have come forward to share information about his history. There's really very little known about him other than that he worked as a internal auditor at Lockheed Martin some years ago.

Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock enjoyed gambling, country music, lived quiet life before massacre

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-life-before-massacre/?utm_term=.58d2d7b04a4e


High stakes gambler, too.



JMO, still not ruling out financial problems, bankruptcy.

Combined with mental illness, this is my best guess as well. Gambling is a terrible addiction. I am sickened over what happened in LV [emoji35]


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  • #765
Large hotels do have security cameras but not everywhere. The entrances to the hotel, the front desk, the main lobby and the parking structure entrance probably have cameras. Every part of the casino will have good camera coverage. The hallways on each floor are unlikely to be covered.

It should be possible to find video of the suspect bringing bags or boxes that have enough space to hold all the guns and ammunition found in the room. Considering the number of firearms it may have taken several trips. Anyone other than a hotel valet that helped with his luggage would be a person of interest.
 
  • #766
Wonder if law enforcement will mandate an autopsy and brain study to see if something pathological could have caused
this?
Something like a tumor on the amygdala or another area that controls behavior could have manifested and caused this.

I hope they do study his brain. If something was wrong with his brain, knowing more about it will be helpful.

And if nothing was wrong with the brain, well, that's helpful info too.

jmo
 
  • #767
I don't even know what the he77 the best course of action would be in this type of scenario. With a ground shooter flee or take cover as best as you can. Shooter from above at a distance......pray!

That's one of the many things that bothers me. Those poor people didn't have a chance. I go through training at my job for a terrorist attack (which I hate but is necessary unfortunately) but there was nothing these victims could do. Sitting ducks and all that. [emoji35]


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  • #768
Oct 2 2017, 4:00 pm ET
One Minute Jason Aldean Was Rocking, the Next It Was ‘World War III’
by Andrew Blankstein, Tracy Connor and Corky Siemaszko

Country music megastar Jason Aldean was chugging through his set and the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest festival was grooving to the music when the shooting started.

Suddenly what had been a rollicking good time was transformed into a surreal horror show on the Vegas Strip directed by a lone gunman spraying the crowd with a barrage of bullets from 32nd floor of the nearby Mandalay Bay hotel.

Aldean’s Army, as the singer’s devoted fans call themselves, was 22,000 strong and packed shoulder-to-shoulder in a penned-in area on Las Vegas’ best known boulevard. And they were sitting ducks.

It was 10:08 p.m. PT Sunday and 58 people were about to die, victims of the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/l...-aldean-was-rocking-next-it-was-world-n806756
 
  • #769
Wonder if law enforcement will mandate an autopsy and brain study to see if something pathological could have caused
this?
Something like a tumor on the amygdala or another area that controls behavior could have manifested and caused this.

Unless he blew his brains out. Yecch.
 
  • #770
Large hotels do have security cameras but not everywhere. The entrances to the hotel, the front desk, the main lobby and the parking structure entrance probably have cameras. Every part of the casino will have good camera coverage. The hallways on each floor are unlikely to be covered.

It should be possible to find video of the suspect bringing bags or boxes that have enough space to hold all the guns and ammunition found in the room. Considering the number of firearms it may have taken several trips. Anyone other than a hotel valet that helped with his luggage would be a person of interest.

I'm assuming we'll see hotel lobby video at some point, but I don't think it would raise any flags to someone to be carrying in large bags to a hotel. There are luggage carts in hotel lobbies for the very reason that people bring in large pieces of luggage, bags, etc.

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  • #771
Unless he blew his brains out. Yecch.

Sigh. Didn't even think about that.

If that is the case, all he did was cause destruction and carnage - and gave absolutely nothing of value (as knowledge about his brain could be useful).

jmo
 
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Sorry there's an exceeeeeellent visual which I can not get to download here even as a screenshot; it has labels on the above image, maybe someone else can have some luck, tia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting.html
 

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  • #773
It does appear killer wanted to drag this woman into his mess.

Thanks for calling him killer[emoji35]. Let's not name him or see his picture.


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  • #774
The Latest: Suspect's dad faced Oregon racketeering charge

The father of suspected Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock operated an Oregon bingo parlor after escaping from a Texas prison in the late 1960s.

An Oregon Supreme Court opinion from 1981 says FBI agents arrested Patrick Benjamin Paddock on Sept. 6, 1978, at the Bingo Center in the small city of Springfield.

Despite the escape, Paddock was paroled the following year and returned to Oregon. He continued the bingo operation until authorities shut it down in 1987 and charged him with racketeering.

Don Bishoff, a columnist for The Register-Guard of Eugene, wrote in 1998 that Paddock pleaded no contest to the charges, but he received no jail time. He wrote that Paddock spent the last decade of his life in Texas.

The columnist described Paddock as one of the Eugene-Springfield area's "most colorful rogues." Patrick Benjamin Paddock was also known as Bruce Ericksen.

[....]

http://www.kake.com/story/36497044/the-latest-suspects-dad-faced-oregon-racketeering-charge
 
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I checked out the LDS Family History site. His father was born in 1920 in Sheboygan WI. And died in 1998 at 77 in TX. Couldn't tell if he died in prison, but I think it said Tarrant TX. ??? Benjamin Hoskins Paddock JMO Pretty sure that's him, but not sure where the Patrick came from.....other than the fact that he had several aliases.
 
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I checked out the LDS Family History site. His father was born in 1920 in Sheboygan WI. And died in 1998 at 77 in TX. Couldn't tell if he died in prison, but I think it said Tarrant TX. ??? Benjamin Hoskins Paddock JMO

Does it give the specific date of the father's death?
 
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