NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #10

[CoolJ]

They were responding to a report of an active shooter in the Crystal Room. At 5:30 he says the Crystal Room had been cleared by the Metro Police. Cleared means nothing was found. In other words the report was not substantiated. Then they said that somebody ran past the room. Somebody running past a room does not prove that there was more than one shooter.

After they said the Crystal room was clear they said it was thought the shooter fled in a vehicle.

Did you listen to the 911 call from the bellagio?

 

[CARIIS]

After they said the Crystal room was clear they said it was thought the shooter fled in a vehicle.

Did you listen to the 911 call from the bellagio?

they also said the suspect that left via vehicle was seen on CCTV .

WHy, if one is alone in the room and you have a camera on the peephole isn't the food cart redundant

lost it but find JC statments -- he was interviewed for a whopping 15 minutes and clearly stated that he never saw a food cart while he was walking down the hallway

opppsssss

a video stated that there is body cam of the second breach -- anyone seen it I have not .

also on the security room control room in the background you can hear people saying 32 135 more than once -- so this need to locate the room is hogwash why would one claim that the reason why noone got in the room for 75 minutes was they did not know where the shooter

in the beginning the only source they had was JC and our CIA guy pretending to be an engineer -- who both in their calls right away told them they were on floor 32 and the sounds were coming from that room

one more time JC did not see any food cart when he was approaching the room hummmm the only thing that can mean ( door was locked to second room ) was someone rigged that up after JC went back down

that would have to mean people were in the second room and escaped

why the breech guys hung out in the stair landing before the breach for 15 minutes is equally baffling -- might they have to had to wait till all was ready to be breached ??

there drinking peeing and hanging out in stairwells for ages -- urgency has been shown nowhere

I read very early on that there was active shooting training going on -- in training they wear glow in the dark school crossing bright yellow or orange vests

I have never in my life seen actual cops in the vests. If you were at the concert and bullets start flying would not shed the glow in the dark ( I am over here) when machine guns are going off?

I do not think only cops were acting as ushers for a concert of 25000 people - concerts hire kids for $8 bucks an hours and give em a glow in the dark vest --none of the cops that " arrived" were in flow in the dark vests!

they were in cop uniforms

in drills people don't run full out they go through the motions for learning the lack of urgency is really insane -- some folks must KNOW they are not in real risk of being killed -- the only thing that could be is some of the folks thought it might be a surprise drill followup to the announced active shooting drill planned the day before

It sure is bewildering all the way around....................................

 

[CARIIS]

After they said the Crystal room was clear they said it was thought the shooter fled in a vehicle.

Did you listen to the 911 call from the bellagio?

I really dont think someone would be hiding and whispering from gunshots down the street!!

She sure sounded petrified

amazing info about all the helicopter shenanigans that night starts around 3000 min in

 

[KaaBoom]

After they said the Crystal room was clear they said it was thought the shooter fled in a vehicle.

And they thought there were three shooters on the 32nd floor. People were reporting shooters all over the place. Shooters running here, shooters running there. There needs to be more evidence then someone thought something.

Did you listen to the 911 call from the bellagio?

Yes, I did. The woman sounded totally hysterical. She couldn't even answer the most basic questions, such as where she was.

 

[CARIIS]

And they thought there were three shooters on the 32nd floor. People were reporting shooters all over the place. Shooters running here, shooters running there. There needs to be more evidence then someone thought something.


Yes, I did. The woman sounded totally hysterical. She couldn't even answer the most basic questions, such as where she was.

I dont think it is one thing -- it is when you add up the the nonsense one cant help but conclude that there is so much fiction in the narrative they are pushing just makes no sense

throw in a dash of widespread curruption within the dept it is not a stretch to conclude that is something being buried and it is huge

moo

 

[CARIIS]

opppsssss

One of his banks closed his account because of suspicion of terrorist involvement a

s it relates to his activity per DHS expert testimony during the investigation

pg 85 86 here

Shared Files - Acrobat.com.

opppss again

Location of Campus reporting he did NOT see cart in hallway BEFORE shooting started


35:45 in his testimony

 

[will4u]

WHy, if one is alone in the room and you have a camera on the peephole isn't the food cart redundant

the food cart in the hallway nonsense, is just that....nonsense...distraction tactic,

they are just trying to make everybody believe paddock planned this out very well, i don't believe there was a camera on a food cart, i dont believe there was a camera on the peep hole, i dont believe there was a camera in the stair well....if there was, SHOW THEM!!

also, if your going to commit suicide in the hotel room after the shooting, you wouldn't care what was going on outside of the room,

paddock is lee harvey oswald 2.0

if paddock is dead (which i still am skeptical of) then he was dead in the room well before the shooting even started,


what TIME did paddock return to his room for the last time? this has never been proven or released, and its something that should be EASY TO DETERMINE....i am very familliar with the hotels in vegas and MB, i understand that there are no cameras in the hallways themselves, but there ARE CAMERAS in the elevator lobby, and in the elevators.....it should be easy to tell the last TIME padddock return to his room....so what time was it?

one of my biggest questions is still the glass windows, glass used in hotel rooms is hurricane proof, in the unlikely event a window DOES BREAK, it is designed to SHATTER, pieces would never fall out, it is two window panes with a layer of film in between them,....it would never break of in larger pieces like it is shown, and the ENTIRE GLASS PANE would be shattered.....but its not!!!

those glass panes were tampered with by somebody ahead of time, or replaced with different/weaker panes of glass,



watch the first 5 mins or so of this video and you will see what im talking about........

 

[CoolJ]

And they thought there were three shooters on the 32nd floor. People were reporting shooters all over the place. Shooters running here, shooters running there. There needs to be more evidence then someone thought something.


Yes, I did. The woman sounded totally hysterical. She couldn't even answer the most basic questions, such as where she was.

The point is, since day one there have been reports of multiple shooters at multiple locations. We are now getting to see it in official LVMPD documentation.
These are the official documents. The only reason anyone would think there was a lone wolf old man doing the shooting is because that is what we were told. The official communications that night tell a much different story.

And it is not people “thinking something”. It is people hearing and observing things and then reporting it through the proper channels.

These are the witnesses to the events of that night. You want to ignore them because Sherriff Lombardo tells a different story?

 

[CARIIS]

the food cart in the hallway nonsense, is just that....nonsense...distraction tactic,

they are just trying to make everybody believe paddock planned this out very well, i don't believe there was a camera on a food cart, i dont believe there was a camera on the peep hole, i dont believe there was a camera in the stair well....if there was, SHOW THEM!!

also, if your going to commit suicide in the hotel room after the shooting, you wouldn't care what was going on outside of the room,

paddock is lee harvey oswald 2.0

if paddock is dead (which i still am skeptical of) then he was dead in the room well before the shooting even started,


what TIME did paddock return to his room for the last time? this has never been proven or released, and its something that should be EASY TO DETERMINE....i am very familliar with the hotels in vegas and MB, i understand that there are no cameras in the hallways themselves, but there ARE CAMERAS in the elevator lobby, and in the elevators.....it should be easy to tell the last TIME padddock return to his room....so what time was it?

one of my biggest questions is still the glass windows, glass used in hotel rooms is hurricane proof, in the unlikely event a window DOES BREAK, it is designed to SHATTER, pieces would never fall out, it is two window panes with a layer of film in between them,....it would never break of in larger pieces like it is shown, and the ENTIRE GLASS PANE would be shattered.....but its not!!!

those glass panes were tampered with by somebody ahead of time, or replaced with different/weaker panes of glass,



watch the first 5 mins or so of this video and you will see what im talking about........

and we must not forget the vacuum hose thing

ok so we got a senior citizen

who is a schlep physically green in color old flabby who sits in the dark playing video games

who is supposedly holding a 45 foot long vacuuum hose to his face while firing a machine gun with the other hand

its laughable!!

all this cra@ is why they needed to wait to get up there so the set could be dressed

I fear the people doing the set design might have been on heroin ha !!

let us not forget the ruckus they were making after they breeched you can clearly hear them picking machine guns up and tossing em back on the floor -- messing with a crime scene - not to mention all the people walking all over the crime scene

ya got a major crime scene and they have a ton of people running all over the room playing with stuff ( only reason to destroy a crime scene is a knowledge that no real investigation is going to happen )

its a sit com

I agree the windows -- a baby hammer is gonna break a huge pane of glass they may have shot it out but the set design of nicely placing a baby hammer on the set makes no sense --nothing worse than poor set design on a stage !!!

know nothing about guns but shiney bullets sprinkled nicely atop a small pile of glass is also a ridiculous set!

On our set the curtain pulled open ( done by cops playing around on the set ) makes zero sense either

so lets make this up like a time lapse video speeded up we got an old man running back and forth between two rooms holding a vacuum face mask firing machine guns peeping out a pulled back curtain checking cameras through little peep holes and monitoring a laptop computer in the other room while firing what a thousand shots in a smoke filled room that is hot with fire alarm strobes lights blinking blinding you shooting through walls while managing not to trip over machine guns scattered all over the floor or tripping on the baby hammer on the floor right near the window who was wearing beach sandals while locking himself out of the other room he spent all this time knocking out gigantic window panes on a skyscraper while doing the physical exercise regime that a 22 year old fit person would have trouble with after being up all night and driving a flying all over the state (fatigue) who has asthma and can be inhaling smoke dressed in a hot shirt and long pants who for some reason does not get overheated from the raging heat in the room who manages to do ALL of this in a space of 12 minutes - whew I am exhausted from the script I just wrote !!

I don't know does a laptop work with no hard drive?

The area is busy anyone heard of ( there is gravity on the planet!) anyone being injured on the ground from massive windows being shattered from the 32 floor on ground level?

Supposedly the floor was occupied (not) and one is in their room and hears massive banging a huge panes of glass being smashed to smithereens not give the front desk a ringy dingy and let them know it sounds like a plane might have just flown into the hotel !!

Our set design becomes even more flat out stupid in the stairway where a little hinge thing that my dog could break if she pushed on the door supposedly is gonna keep out a bunch of strong SWAT dudes from opening the door in the stairwell ? It looks like something one might buy to secure a vitamin case !

Our set designer further messes up logic in that wood chips and door particulates from the breach in several instances is under things that it they should be atop of -- flying wood chips can not get under machine guns etc etc

in addition our set designer balances a machine gun nicely atop of our deceased body that just blew his brains out. Somehow this machine gun magically stays standing up all pretty like on a human being flown backwards as his body falls to the ground!

Our set crew should have a least found used casings to place all nicely around our victims head. How on earth are there supposedly what 9 casing shells all around his head -- so he missed his mouth 8 times before getting a bullet in his head?

Fake blood does not cost that much -- some drops of bloops should be on our nicely arranged pile of shiney shells around a head that was just blown out.

Somewhere in our story we must understand why our main character made a nice little bed (away from the windows) for his machine guns ( it does make sense if your showing them to a potential buyer)

our script is further flawed by our character who is supposed to , hypothetically be running back and forth for out camera peephole -- why does our character place a giant machine gun all on a tripod which could easily trip him on his mad dash from all over the room

why did our set designer place machine guns all over the place away from the two windows?

Why did our character leave out all his ID in plain view? Why would our character have his wives stuff all nicely laid out as well?

Food stinks as it ages -- there was a heck a lot of plates for one person supposedly. The volume makes more sense if there were a group of people in the room . We have to remember in our script we have him going out to eat a lot -- so the need for endless room service becomes even more crazy. Unless of course, we have people in our room who cant go out and be seen in public -- for several days - on CCTV.

"Paddock" - A Dreary Evening of Theatre- Worse Than The Negative Buzz Already Mounting"

Oct 1 - By Isaac Incredulous. Tickets $195 -$89
Mandalay Bay - The Sherbert Room

* One star - My editor prohibits no stars!

It has often been said that there is nothing worse than horrid theatre. "Paddock " takes that reality to depths not seen on the strip since "Lombardo" opened and closed after 8 performances last season .

Our main character defies the physical capabilities of our lead. Other characters often behave in ways that make no sense. If the playwrights intended for Act Two to function in somewhat of a thriller aspect, it fails miserably.

Supporting cast fail to communicate the urgency of the crisis at hand. Several scenes bog the shows running time into tortuous territory.

For example there is a throw away scene in ACt 2 ( other guest room ). If the scene was intended to provide some comic relief it failed in that domain as well. Several patrons excited at this point.

For those of us who endured until final curtain , "Paddocks"
denouement was totally non existent - the only reason that failure was , by curtain, meaningless is that most if us checked out well before Act 1 wrapped up.

Miss this show - a poorly conceived, executed and excruciating evening of theatre.

 

[will4u]

when i think about the investigation in this case....something like this comes to mind......

 

[KaaBoom]

The point is, since day one there have been reports of multiple shooters at multiple locations. We are now getting to see it in official LVMPD documentation.
These are the official documents. The only reason anyone would think there was a lone wolf old man doing the shooting is because that is what we were told. The official communications that night tell a much different story.

Yes, people were told on day one that that there were multiple people involved. Then the LVMPD reversed themselves and stated that there investigation found no evidence of an accomplice. So I can make the same argument, The only reason anyone would think that he was not a lone wolf is because that is what we were told.

 

[CARIIS]

Yes, people were told on day one that that there were multiple people involved. Then the LVMPD reversed themselves and stated that there investigation found no evidence of an accomplice. So I can make the same argument, The only reason anyone would think that he was not a lone wolf is because that is what we were told.

I actually think it is the opposite

It is about what we were not told

that is now being told

that results in serious problems

Kaa boom what do you think about JC having said there was no cart in hallway?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Las Vegas police release more bodycam video from deadly mass shooting

The Las Vegas Metro Police Department on Wednesday released more than two dozen video files with hours of officer bodycam footage and about 500 recordings of phone calls from the night of Oct. 1, when suspected shooter Stephen Paddock unleashed a hail of bullets on a crowd of concertgoers.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Las Vegas footage shows chaos among officers, public as shooting unfolds

The clips, totaling around 10 hours of footage, were part of the sixth batch of records to be released by the department following a court order in a lawsuit brought forward by numerous media organizations. The department on Wednesday also released 511 additional audio clips from 911 calls — a similar number to those made public last week, according to The Associated Press.

Other clips show a tourniquet being applied to a wounded concertgoer and confusion among police and the public as to what was happening as the attack unfolded.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Videos show Vegas police helping people duck, escape gunfire

The department also released 511 additional audio clips from 911 calls — a similar number to those made public last week.

In one, an unidentified man whispers to an emergency dispatcher that he’s hiding in a broom closet at the Planet Hollywood resort, several blocks away from the shooting.

“We want to know if it’s safe,” he says in the call time-stamped two hours and 30 minutes after the gunfire began.

The information released by police has provided sometimes graphic and heartbreaking details of people screaming for help, falling during rapid gunfire and helping each other escape the carnage as gunfire rained down from the windows of a hotel room on the 32nd floor.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

The Latest: Vegas officer video: 'We're in the firing zone'

It was the sixth periodic release of documents, video and audio collected by authorities following the Oct. 1 shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival on the Las Vegas Strip.

“You gotta go! We’re in the firing zone! He can see us from here!” the unidentified officer tells people near the stage as the concert turned to chaos under barrages of gunfire.

 

[CARIIS]

Las Vegas police release more bodycam video from deadly mass shooting

the shot with the cop on the ground is interesting

according to our sheriff over 200 rounds of machine gun bullets were randomly shot thro some door walls are fine carpet does not need housekeeping -- mb must use really strong walls and carpets and light bulbs and super dooper food carts -- the cart was fine despite it being 4 feet away from a barrage of 200 machine guns !!

maybe we should have MB bre building bomb shelters

 

[2Hope4]

So the LE outside of Mandalay had no real idea of what was happening inside. They all seemed in chaos mode, that you expect to see in such a tragedy. But the ones inside, with that body cam and the bath room break, etc, completely different.

 

[cujenn81]

I spent a solid few hours reading most of the police reports that were written up about their response and what duties they were assigned, etc. As you can imagine, many of them were very sad and difficult to read. But at the same time, there were a lot that were extremely vague and didn't go into a lot of detail. At least three of the reports for a group of officers assigned to the same task had identical wording, so clearly one person wrote up the report and the other two just changed the names of the other officers in their task force. I don't know if that's pretty standard procedure everywhere but that practice seems wrong to me for some reason.

Most of the reports were not written up until a week later (if not longer), which also seems like poor procedure -- as their memories of the events that occurred that night would be tainted with the knowledge that had obtained after the fact. In general, the officers seemed to have very little direction given to them until well after the shooting had ended and were basically just trying to do what they could to help concert goers find cover, medical aid, keep them calm, etc. I'm not sure what to make of that.

 

[cujenn81]

Oh! AND... One thing I did notice was that the investigator wrote about how he obtained footage from MB and the Ogden but was told the FBI technology investigative unit was taking over all surveillance when he returned with it to the lab. Same thing happened with his home in Mesquite. He was instructed to report there to do a crime scene investigation but he was called back while he was on the way there because the FBI was taking over it. And, well... we all know just how component the FBI is with handling investigations. insert eyeroll.