NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

[enelram]

More important is, where does all that wealth come from. An accountant who worked for IRS and was a letter carrier for USPS. It just doesn't add up. Now it is possible that his dad left him a lot of money.

I wondered that also, but the fathers paid obituary only listed one son, Patrick. So unlikely.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I wondered that also, but the fathers paid obituary only listed one son, Patrick. So unlikely.

I lot of money can be made in real estate.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Marilou Danley's sisters say she didn't know she was going to the Phillippines until the last minute

[video=cnn;us/2017/10/04/las-vegas-marilou-danley-sisters-speak-casarez-newday.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/marilou-danley-vegas-shooting-paddock/index.html[/video]
Also confirms one of my earlier suspicions about the killer - in spite of his wealth, he was very frugal when it comes to others in his life. The kind of guy who is always searching the internet for cheap travel deals, doesn't buy furniture, etc. A narcissist who sees the acquisition of money as a power game, especially using it to control others around him.

A lot of wealthy people are tight and cheap. You know how you stay wealthy? You don't spend all your money like someone who just won powerball.

I wouldn't read too much into that.

The ticket likely wasn't cheap either-- he just used that as an excuse to get her out of the country...

 

[Footwarrior]

A hotel security guard probably saved countless lives. The shooter shot him though the door and then killed himself long before the SWAT team got to the 32nd floor.

 

[dizzychick]

His advance age? My husband is 70 but looks and acts much younger and is a very active, trim, muscular man who can do anything someone else can do at a much younger age. I don't think his age has anything to do with his capabilities to plan and carryout his horrendous deeds.

My husband has always been an avid hunter since he was a young boy but he has never heard of a bump stock until this happened, but then he only uses a semi-automatic rifle to hunt deer which means he has to pull the trigger himself.

by advanced age I meant as opposed to the Colorado shooter, the Sandy hook kid, all the school shooters, isnt that the usual type other than maybe Ted Kaczynski ? No offense and great your hubby is in such good health, as for me at 56 im no doubt gonna check out early, the good lord did not give me a long leash with my health sadly. No offense intended to us older folks

 

[Betty P]

Whatever the brother says about their wealth, I don't buy it. Something is definitely fishy about their wealth. I doubt Paddock made enough $$ working for the government or USPS to become a real estate mogul. Very fishy!!!

With two planes and experience as an accountant, arms dealing and money laundering come to mind. JMO.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Horrifying, there's no excuse. This seems to be a weekly occurrence. I wonder if he was planning to use them or was trafficking them? There's a lot of drug cartel activity in those areas.

I suspect it was gun trafficking since the serial numbers had been removed. There is a lot of problems with gun runners in our country. They are selling them illegally to those who cant legally obtain them like felons and drug gangs like you have suggested.

I am just glad they stopped this man.

 

[Betty P]

by advanced age I meant as opposed to the Colorado shooter, the Sandy hook kid, all the school shooters, isnt that the usual type other than maybe Ted Kaczynski ? No offense and great your hubby is in such good health, as for me at 56 im no doubt gonna check out early, the good lord did not give me a long leash with my health sadly. No offense intended to us older folks

Agree. Cliff Van Zandt and other experts on the news shows have been saying he doesn't fit the usual profile, mostly because of his age. Obviously, it's not a hard, fast rule. As he's proven, there are always exceptions. JMO, I don't think it's unheard of for older men to do this kind of mass murder. Andrew Kehoe was 55 years old, when he blew up a school full of children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

He was nursing a grudge over taxes. Perhaps Paddock was nursing some kind of grudge, festering for years, etc.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I wondered that also, but the fathers paid obituary only listed one son, Patrick. So unlikely.

The father was a bank robber who spent a long time in jail. During the time he was escaped from jail he (the father) lived in Oregon and ran a bingo hall. Hardly sounds like a lifestyle where the father would accumulate enough wealth to bestow any substantial inheritances to his sons.

Motor-mouth Eric said in his second interview that his mother raised four children on her own working as a secretary.

Eric comes across as being indebted to and protective of his brother. I think it's going to turn out that everybody who ever knew the shooter thought he was weird as hell.

 

[enelram]

The ones that ran to the gun store to buy bump fire stocks and drum magazines are exactly the people we should be worried about.

A friend just told me he was in a gun shop recently and all the walls were covered with assault type rifles and on the
counter near the cash register was a stack of pamphlets- $2.50 each on "How to turn an assault rifle into an automatic
rifle".

 

[Poppyflower]

Can anyone please explain the FOX bumper on the bottom here at the beginning??

WTH??

TIA

[video=youtube;yhIT348Sy4A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhIT348Sy4A[/video]

O M G. Wth?!? Why am I surprised? Just when it can't get any worse...

 

[Betty P]

I suspect it was gun trafficking since the serial numbers had been removed. There is a lot of problems with gun runners in our country. They are selling them illegally to those who cant legally obtain them like felons and drug gangs like you have suggested.

I am just glad they stopped this man.

Was also reading an article recently about how most of the automatic & other deadly weapons the drug cartels use in Mexico come from the US. It's a big business for US gun runners.

Why Mexico’s drug cartels love America’s gun laws

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ove-americas-gun-laws/?utm_term=.4fb91f391b20

This is also interesting:

Many firearms are acquired in the U.S. by women with no criminal history, who transfer their purchases to smugglers through relatives, boyfriends and acquaintances and then smuggled to Mexico a few at a time.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico

 

[Hiandmighty]

The father was a bank robber who spent a long time in jail. During the time he was escaped from jail he (the father) lived in Oregon and ran a bingo hall. Hardly sounds like a lifestyle where the father would accumulate enough wealth to bestow any substantial inheritances to his sons.

Motor-mouth Eric said in his second interview that his mother raised four children on her own working as a secretary.

Eric comes across as being indebted to and protective of his brother. I think it's going to turn out that everybody who ever knew the shooter thought he was weird as hell.

Living in the land of denial is certainly easier than dealing with difficult situations and people.

 

[KMouse]

If they rarely lived at the house, and he kept them in one room, she may not have ever known they were there. If he had a good sized gun safe, or even just stored them under the bed or in the closet. (It happens more than you'd think, that s/os have no clue what's in the house). It's said he had tannerite, too. Tannerite is usually in a container that reads Rifle Targets or Exploding Targets. If you aren't familiar with Tannerite, and what it can do, look in YouTube for "1/2 pound of tannerite vs fridge". That's just a half pound. When I saw he had Tannerite, I wondered what he decided not to do, or didn't have time to do. But it wouldn't be something that she would necessarily know what it was.

Maybe his wealth was through ill-gotten gains, and the gambling was his way of laundering money, and he got wind something might be coming down on him soon, so he decided to go out big?

The money is interesting. There is a lot of wealth. Distant relationship with his family yet the brothers are real estate partners? Cash wired to the Philippines. A wife who was 'sent away' and then she travels to the Philippines and then Tokyo.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

With two planes and experience as an accountant, arms dealing and money laundering come to mind. JMO.

Or a contract killer maybe, though I think money laundering is more likely, if only because of his background.

Is there any information about his qualifications as an accountant, assuming he was qualified in some way?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

by advanced age I meant as opposed to the Colorado shooter, the Sandy hook kid, all the school shooters, isnt that the usual type other than maybe Ted Kaczynski ? No offense and great your hubby is in such good health, as for me at 56 im no doubt gonna check out early, the good lord did not give me a long leash with my health sadly. No offense intended to us older folks

I understand and at one time I thought 64 was old too and they would be too old to do the things they use to do. That is really not the case though. Many even much older than SP are still doing amazing things that takes strength and stamina. I believe why my husband is so healthy and fit is he has never abused drugs or alcohol in his life and has never even had to take any kind of meds and he is constantly active. He just takes his vitamins everyday but he can work rings around our grandsons who are in their teens and 20s. They know there is no way they can keep up with their Papa.

Unfortunately age does not immune anyone from becoming a mass murderer. I think SP was very capable in doing this all by himself.

I certainly hope you are wrong and will live a very long life.

 

[Hiandmighty]

A single guy with no kids and no credit card debt who invests his money in land and real estate can become very wealthy over time. I know two people who have done this.

Especially so if he rode the real estate bubbles the right way.... flipping houses, etc..


Of course it could also be illegal activities...


Or both...

 

[enelram]

The father was a bank robber who spent a long time in jail. During the time he was escaped from jail he (the father) lived in Oregon and ran a bingo hall. Hardly sounds like a lifestyle where the father would accumulate enough wealth to bestow any substantial inheritances to his sons.

Motor-mouth Eric said in his second interview that his mother raised four children on her own working as a secretary.

Eric comes across as being indebted to and protective of his brother. I think it's going to turn out that everybody who ever knew the shooter thought he was weird as hell.

Again, if you can believe news articles....I read the father died in Texas (1998), went back there after he was parolled in Oregon. Possible that son Patrick lived in Texas and took care of father. ???

also read Mom raised boys by working as a postal worker and investing in stocks while in Southern California.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

ID Photo

I have to say that photo does not scream millionaire businessman or high rolling pro gambler to me.

It makes me think much more blue collar or even underclass.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Was also reading an article recently about how most of the automatic & other deadly weapons the drug cartels use in Mexico come from the US. It's a big business for US gun runners.

Why Mexico’s drug cartels love America’s gun laws

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ove-americas-gun-laws/?utm_term=.4fb91f391b20

This is also interesting:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico

I am not sure I believe that. Many of the illegal guns being trafficked into our country comes from Mexican gun runners coming into our country selling them to felons and gang members who cant obtain weapons legally.