NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #5

[Webbie16]

Just saw on twitter of LVMPD that the press conference starts at 11.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mystery-surrounds-mandalay-security-guard-jesus-campos/
^^ appears to be "a legitimate news link", per MediaBiasFactCheck:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/independent-sentinel/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

[FONT=&amp]Notes: [...] we were unable to find an instance where the Independent Sentinel failed a fact check. We rate the Independent Sentinel right biased with mostly factual reporting. ([...] 3/14/2017)
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She said "legitimate," though. It is ranked by your source as extreme right wing, and compared to Truthfeed, Angrypatriotmovement, and others by another source that rates these sites.

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[MistyWaters]

-I understand a lapsed license is not an indication of foul play. It does happen to many. I just think in this case it has more of a WTH significance, as does much of much...so far...

The bigger question is why the life of a witness, a victim of a maniac shooter, requires protection?

Lots of assumptions being drawn..... Maybe he personally knows someone connected with the company, perhaps it is someone he trusts? That's why they were hired? Maybe the licence renewal information on the website wasn't updated? We don't know. Does it really matter?

 

[Spice]

Important and Great Article from The LV Review Journal. It's a lot longer than what I quoted and really gets in there .

The conspiracy crowd took to the internet almost as soon as the gunfire stopped.
Every mass-casualty event attracts its share of crackpots, and the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas would be no different.
Shaky cell phone videos of a flashing strobe light became proof of a second shooter.
Sketchy accounts from traumatized tourists fueled narratives of a coordinated terrorist attack and a far-reaching cover-up.
The lack of a clear motive spawned wild claims that Stephen Paddock was a patsy or a spy — or maybe even still alive somewhere.
Already, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said he has seen more conspiracies and misinformation about this investigation than he has in other high-profile cases. The “keyboard tough guys” are out in force, he said.
Some of the stories were created or repeated by unscrupulous websites looking to cash in on the tragedy.
Undoubtedly, the loved ones of those killed in the attack have seen the fake news too, some of it hurtful, even dismissive of what they have lost.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...wd-working-overtime-since-las-vegas-shooting/

 

[Deleted member 158085]

What's the source of your information stating JC wasn't interviewed by LE and then he left on a vacation?

My recollection through reading dozens of news reports was he was interviewed. When he was to be interviewed a second time it was mentioned he was "out of town". A sequence of interviews with key witnesses by various law enforcement departments or divisions is certainly not unusual. He was not under arrest and therefore free to go "out of town", obviously leaving his contact information with investigators so they knew where he is, as they knew he was "out of town". I'm not seeing any nefarious about that whatsoever therefore I'm interested in your alternate source of facts.

This! Thank you! So many things in this forum are being stated as fact without sources. I would find it odd if he had not been interviewed. However, I have seen nothing that states that except for the post you cite.

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[Betty P]

The bigger question is why the life of a witness, a victim of a maniac shooter, requires protection?

Lots of assumptions being drawn..... Maybe he personally knows someone connected with the company, perhaps it is someone he trusts? That's why they were hired? Maybe the licence renewal information on the website wasn't updated? We don't know. Does it really matter?

Because he has crazy right wing "journalists" stalking his home, trying to get inside. These are scary people, some have been arrested before, in a publicity stunt to raise money.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nspiracy-theory-stephen-paddock-a7991891.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/17/woman-who-stormed-stage-during-julius-caesar-is-ar/

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/19/f...e-activist-ever-interrupted-shakespeare-play/

 

[SeesSeas]

Important and Great Article from The LV Review Journal. It's a lot longer than what I quoted and really gets in there .

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https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...wd-working-overtime-since-las-vegas-shooting/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/las-vegas-review-journal/
[FONT=&quot]Las Vegas Review Journal[/FONT]
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.

 

[kittythehare]

Just saw on twitter of LVMPD that the press conference starts at 11.

How many hours away is that? please?

 

[Iona]

Important and Great Article from The LV Review Journal. It's a lot longer than what I quoted and really gets in there .

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https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...wd-working-overtime-since-las-vegas-shooting/

Great read, thanks...

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[Iona]

How many hours away is that? please?

I assume they are on Pacific time

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[CARIIS]

This! Thank you! So many things in this forum are being stated as fact without sources. I would find it odd if he had not been interviewed. However, I have seen nothing that states that except for the post you cite.

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It struck me odd that witnesses are allowed to go "out of town" a couple of days after a huge mass shooing

I did not say he was not interviewed I stated that maybe how was "out of town" relaxing and maybe they could not find him.

He seems to have some sort of history of vanishing

LAS VEGAS MASSACRE
6 hours ago
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[h=1]Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews[/h]
Where in the world is Jesus Campos?
The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.
Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.


What I said was :

And now that I think about -- that might the reason they did not get the timeline right -- someone in control let him leave town instantly -- so maybe they did not even get the chance to talk to him until the timeline change .

just speculating

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html

 

[Spice]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/las-vegas-review-journal/
[FONT="]Las Vegas Review Journal[/FONT]
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.

I think you are confused.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal is a major daily newspaper published in Las Vegas, Nevada, since 1909. It is the largest circulating daily newspaper in Nevada and one of two daily newspapers in the Las Vegas area. ... The Review-Journal has a joint operating agreement with the Las Vegas Sun, which runs through 2040.

The Las Vegas Review Journal is neither an Alt Right or an extreme bias media source. It is a local newspaper in publication since 1909. Way before fake news...

 

[SeesSeas]

https://twitter.com/LVMPD?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

[FONT=&amp]LVMPD‏Verified account @LVMPD [video=twitter;918886189100253184]https://twitter.com/LVMPD/status/918886189100253184[/video][/FONT][FONT=&amp]
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[What'sThatClue]

Presser is starting, live stream here: http://amp.wesh.com/article/las-vegas-update/12846244

 

[sds71]

Pc started
https://t.co/UYpqI3esEb

 

[kittythehare]

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/la...-conspiracy-theory-stop-asking-your-question/

 

[SeesSeas]

I think you are confused.

The Las Vegas Review Journal is neither an Alt Right or an extreme bias media source. It is a local newspaper in publication since 1909. Way before fake news...

I'm not confused. Simply posting the Media Bias Fact Check:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/las-v...eview-journal/
[FONT=&quot]Las Vegas Review Journal[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.[/FONT]

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It struck me odd that witnesses are allowed to go "out of town" a couple of days after a huge mass shooing

I did not say he was not interviewed I stated that maybe how was "out of town" relaxing and maybe they could not find him.

He seems to have some sort of history of vanishing

LAS VEGAS MASSACRE
6 hours ago
​

[h=1]Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews[/h]
Where in the world is Jesus Campos?
The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.
Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.


What I said was :

And now that I think about -- that might the reason they did not get the timeline right -- someone in control let him leave town instantly -- so maybe they did not even get the chance to talk to him until the timeline change .

just speculating

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html

This is what you said. You more than implied that he went out of town for a refresher without being interviewed. Cariis, please choose your words more carefully.

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[Betty P]

546 injuries 501 discharged, 58 have died. 45 still hospitalized, some of those still in critical condition. (from PC live)

 

[Spice]

I'm not confused. Simply posting the Media Bias Fact Check:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/las-v...eview-journal/
[FONT="]Las Vegas Review Journal[/FONT][/I][/COLOR]
[FONT="]These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.[/FONT]

They are a credible local news source. And if they were so "right biased and right leaning" they would not be criticizing conspiracy theories, they would be spreading them.