NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #5

[Davia18]

Deleted own post

 

[MistyWaters]

I was searching for the inner workings of their security dept during the night..I didn't find anything at all except a NYT article which I posted a few hours ago.
I wanted to see their major emergency drill. But yeah, there should be a daily events log, but its probably not for public consumption.. their disaster plan should be, however..

This link contains a little general information that I thought was interesting:

"When he worked at the hotel and casino in the early 2000s, he said, all radio calls went through “control,” which is also called dispatch. There were at all times at least three people in the control office: one dispatcher who reports to other units, one dispatcher who watches cameras and a third in charge of calling police when necessary.

“If [Campos] did things the way you’re trained, you report to control [dispatch] through your daily issued radio, then dispatch makes the call to the authorities, only because they’re in a safe place in the basements,” said the former guard, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to discuss security issues.

He added: “In a shooting situation you would first seek shelter, and call for help, meaning you radio the security office, who then types the type of incident, time of incident, and another person calls authorities and gives as much information as possible.”
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-casino-security-20171012-story.html

 

[Spice]

The security guards at Mandalay specifically unionized end of last year. It’s a security guard/first responder union. It is not affiliated with the hotel, or the staff as a whole.

As for the registration, the laws are pretty clear. I would suggest reading them. It’s illegal for someone to act in that role if they are not licensed or registered under a licensed entity.

Thanks for the info that it is a union specifically for security guards. Do you have a link to the info regarding certification laws? To me, there is a difference between working in a State or City capacity and working as a pretty low level unarmed security guard in a private hotel. Union or not. Maybe I'm wrong. Just a thought .

 

[enelram]

This is not real ? <modsnip>

No not valid. Fake cnn site. was discussed at length 2 nights ago.

 

[CoolJ]

FBI should be leading this investigation.

The FBI has been leading this investigation from Day 1. You can bet on it.

 

[Davia18]

No not valid. Fake cnn site. was discussed at length 2 nights ago.

Yeah I'm days behind. Thank You for clarifying for me.
Annoying this stuff goes around

 

[m00c0w]

Thanks for the info that it is a union specifically for security guards. Do you have a link to the info regarding certification laws? To me, there is a difference between working in a State or City capacity and working as a pretty low level unarmed security guard in a private hotel. Union or not. Maybe I'm wrong. Just a thought .

I made a post a few pages earlier in the thread with the relevant laws. I’m on mobile right now or I’d link you. The laws don’t distinguish between state/government employee or private. If you’re a security guard, you’re supposed to be at least registered, if not fully licensed.

 

[MistyWaters]

<modsnip>

No it's not real - CNN-dash is a fake website, no connection to CNN.com. It's a phishing site spewing false information under the guise of "news" into the brains of the general public.

 

[CoolJ]

No one is above the law...

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

No one should be above the law. But, this is real world here. Money and power puts you above the law.

 

[Gooddeeds]

-http://www.spfpa.org/david-l-hickey.html

‘Security Police Fire Professionals of America’

-The State of Nevada requires ALL SECURITY GUARDS be registered with and licensed by the state, under the jurisdiction of the Nevada Private Investigator’s Licensing Board. A number of websites are reporting that Jesus Campos is not registered as a security guard. You can search at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mystery-surrounds-mandalay-security-guard-jesus-campos/

 

[enelram]

The FBI has been leading this investigation from Day 1. You can bet on it.

doesn't seem so based on sheriff acting as spokesperson for all pressers and media. Have you seen any official statement?

 

[Gooddeeds]

I made a post a few pages earlier in the thread with the relevant laws. I’m on mobile right now or I’d link you. The laws don’t distinguish between state/government employee or private. If you’re a security guard, you’re supposed to be at least registered, if not fully licensed.

-Correct. It is both registered and licensed.

 

[Betty P]

Yes, I posted the relevant statues upthread. He needs to register through the state, and through the LVMPD.

Perhaps we should ask one of our verified attorneys here at WS to look into the statutes and see if it was really necessary.

 

[Spice]

The security guards at Mandalay specifically unionized end of last year. It&#8217;s a security guard/first responder union. It is not affiliated with the hotel, or the staff as a whole.

As for the registration, the laws are pretty clear. I would suggest reading them. It&#8217;s illegal for someone to act in that role if they are not licensed or registered under a licensed entity.

I

n Las Vegas a security guard could have years of training to rely on -- or he might just be a glorified bouncer.


The level of training depends on whom guards are working for and what they're guarding, state-licensed security guard trainer Dave Vining said.

"The big casinos do an excellent job with security, but they also have big budgets," Vining said. "You can also have a situation where Joe owns a tavern and hires his cousin Billy Bob as an armed officer."

An 11-hour training course and being 21 years old are the major requirements for a contract security guard license in Nevada. There are no set standards for private security at businesses, casinos and clubs. At those places, the minimum it takes to become an armed guard is a weapons permit and permission of the owner.

"These people are carrying a deadly, lethal machine, and personally I'm uncomfortable with the idea that only occasional, casual training is needed for this job," said D. Anthony Nichter, a Las Vegas security specialist, who teaches security courses at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and the Community College of Southern Nevada.

Training procedures for security guards in Las Vegas have come under scrutiny after two fatal shootings by guards over the weekend.

The majority of Las Vegas casinos employ their own security forces, which are not regulated by the state. Some are armed and others aren't, said Tim Donovan, president of the Las Vegas Security Chiefs Association, which represents more than 90 casino and resort properties.

Some are armed and others aren't, said Tim Donovan, president of the Las Vegas Security Chiefs Association, which represents more than 90 casino and resort properties.

"The association allows the security chiefs to meet and discuss new security methods, but the actual security guidelines are up to each property," Donovan said. "Some properties arm their personnel with batons or pepper spray and others use firearms.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Granted, this article is from 2002, so things may have changed. Private Companies are not usually subject to state regulations as we see was the case for security personnel in Vegas casinos.

Can anyone find information that these parameters have changed indicating that JC would have had to be certified?

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/aug/06/training-of-security-guards-scrutinized/

 

[Betty P]

-The State of Nevada requires ALL SECURITY GUARDS be registered with and licensed by the state, under the jurisdiction of the Nevada Private Investigator&#8217;s Licensing Board. A number of websites are reporting that Jesus Campos is not registered as a security guard. You can search at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mystery-surrounds-mandalay-security-guard-jesus-campos/

That's not a legitimate news link.

 

[Iona]

No one should be above the law. But, this is real world here. Money and power puts you above the law.

Indeed, I am fully aware my friends, I was just quoting the original version. All of you make such valid points, this is Vegas, follow the money etc. , and I am in complete agreement; however, I am stuck, or should I stay struck? How come no-one in the mainstream media, law enforcement community, political hemisphere, or Victims Families, is asking these questions????

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

 

[Spice]

I made a post a few pages earlier in the thread with the relevant laws. I’m on mobile right now or I’d link you. The laws don’t distinguish between state/government employee or private. If you’re a security guard, you’re supposed to be at least registered, if not fully licensed.

Please see my new post. Unless things have changed, Security Guards in private Casinos are not regulated by state regulations of training, licensure, or certification. It is up to the Casino and not the State which was my feeling all along.

 

[Gardenista]

Craig Fiegener&#8207;Verified account
@CraigNews3LV
Follow Follow @CraigNews3LV
More
Labor union that reps Jesus Campos says @MandalayBay had final say on media interviews. Last night MGM pulled the plug, they say. #LasVegas

[video=twitter;918849603050471424]https://twitter.com/CraigNews3LV/status/918849603050471424[/video]

 

[kittythehare]

No, when the Australian friend of his gf was visiting SP's home he mentioned being taken into an actual room that was
called 'the gun room' by SP. The home did have 2 bedrooms.

No, he was never taken into the gun room, it was merely discussed, allegedly.

 

[enelram]

Indeed, I am fully aware my friends, I was just quoting the original version. All of you make such valid points, this is Vegas, follow the money etc. , and I am in complete agreement; however, I am stuck, or should I stay struck? How come no-one in the mainstream media, law enforcement community, political hemisphere, or Victims Families, is asking these questions????

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

...because they understand THIS IS VEGAS. Been this way for decades. they get it.