NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #8

[Gooddeeds]

I agree, there should be nobody outside of LE making any kind of hardfast declarations at this point. But there should also be no questions not allowed to be asked. People should not be ridiculed for asking questions.

On that note, I would like to know how LE were able to make the "declaration" that there were NOT multiple shooters in Las Vegas that night. Understand, I am not demanding an answer from LE. I am merely asking how they could come to that conclusion at such an early stage. Especially when reports were flooding in in opposition to that statement.

-Agree!

-To all of us: can we agree to disagree among what appears to be ‘roughly’ 3 themes for the sake of clogging the thread?

*CT-as in it was all staged-none of it occurred (as far as I know I don’t think we have that here).

*Comfortable with the order of the officials in charge-trusting their reports-not thinking anything is off-no lies.

*Not comfortable with the lack of order-the officials in charge-having difficultly trusting the reports-thinking there is a fair to generous amount of ‘off’

-This thread has become exhausting. There is no reason to personally debate where anyone may be. If you disagree-scroll.

-Questions, speculations, volleying, revisiting, does not imply CT.

-Regardless of whether LE, FBI, MSM, MGM, and any others that apply are forthcoming or not, there will be the cruelty that we see online. There is no excuse to withhold basic info, disguise info, twist info...

 

[canadiangirl]

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...apon-in-las-vegas-gunmans-mandalay-bay-suite/

Why does it take one month for this info to be revealed?

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I'm behind in posts but was it not said in the presser or msm "absolutely no shots fired by LE"?


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[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Yea I have been searching. Still am. Haven't been able to find any that would simulate that distance and angle/drop. Let me know if you find one!

No need for a range. Just drive 15 minutes into the desert. There's lots of mountains, cliffs, canyons, and no one around for miles.

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[canadiangirl]

They are not talking to 22000 people.!

Pretty sure they got that number from total sales for the three day event

That was not 22,000 people!!

Anyone know the formal name of the place of the concert?? The facility?

here is what 16000 look like

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...64.psy-ab..0.2.212.6..35i39k1.118.TAKc3AvIs8o

I don't think they have spoken to hardly any... Maybe 200 if you know what I mean moo

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[kittythehare]

off topic, in a way.
The vehicle attack in NY, at just before either 3 or 4 eastern is being investigated as a terror attack and the suspect's name has been released by ABC news and cBS already.. for the past 90 minutes, his alleged name, not confirmed by LE has been published..!!!
Just take a look at Twitter right now.. watch it and compare..

 

[bluesneakers]

No need for a range. Just drive 15 minutes into the desert. There's lots of mountains, cliffs, canyons, and no one around for miles.

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That's where my childhood shooting ranges were.

 

[MistyWaters]

Ahh... He was a "math" guy.
MOO

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Yes, accounting, math, algorithms in gambling but seemingly no social skills. I wonder if he was considered a geek-type way back when. IIRC one of the brothers said of the four kids, Stephen got into trouble the least.

 

[Gooddeeds]

off topic, in a way.
The vehicle attack in NY, at just before either 3 or 4 eastern is being investigated as a terror attack and the suspect's name has been released by ABC news and cBS already.. for the past 90 minutes, his alleged name, not confirmed by LE has been published..!!!
Just take a look at Twitter right now.. watch it and compare..

“A pellet gun and a paint ball gun”
-but the same end game...?

 

[Gooddeeds]

I'm behind in posts but was it not said in the presser or msm "absolutely no shots fired by LE"?


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-I had forgotten that, good recall!

 

[x_files]

I live in Orlando - where the biggest one was until ....

local news was wall to wall without commercial for days

why because info was pouring and oozing and overflowing from the law and FBI. It was a gusher of new information day after say

We have to remember in terms of fatalities this tragedy was allegedly 8 more fatalities.

I went down there like 10 days later - there was still tents and tents and tents of national and international news agencies

Hey who knows maybe that is why this is so absurd.

Our FBI dude was amazing -- he did not stand there stalking our police chief. He had that mike in his hands girl!!!

My deal is in all of them there were briefings with new information like 4x day for 3 days then 3 for 3 etc

Here is what an honest presser looks like IMo!

Notice Gov /Mayer Sheriff Head /Orlando Police head /FBI lead

Congressmen had already been contacted

At this point CIA had been contacted per this presser

jmo I lived it - it may be different . I am gay. It may different. I had been to PUlse. It may different .

But LV is an insult to citizens IMO

moo
[video=youtube;jyFAuNISRkg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyFAuNISRkg[/video]

The difference is Vegas is run by the mob.

 

[MistyWaters]

Anyone catching up with the Las Vegas tragic happenings, it might be interesting to know that initially the wrong person was identified to be the perpetrator by social media. It's astounding how quickly false news can spread. See how --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-las-vegas-shooter/?utm_term=.7f29935972c2

 

[Gooddeeds]

off topic, in a way.
The vehicle attack in NY, at just before either 3 or 4 eastern is being investigated as a terror attack and the suspect's name has been released by ABC news and cBS already.. for the past 90 minutes, his alleged name, not confirmed by LE has been published..!!!
Just take a look at Twitter right now.. watch it and compare..

-kitty, thanks, definitely a contrasting account. And i’m not planning on an apple to orange discussion here but this is what ‘seems’ normal and orderly:

*5 shots-quick succession-LE to investigate from that direction’.
That alone is a power packed stealth response, as it should be.

"The first responder to the event was a counterterrorism officer," he said. "We were attending to the victim, getting her onto a stretcher and, at that moment, we heard gunshots. I recalled hearing five gunshots in quick succession and immediately the officer ... left to investigate the situation from the direction we heard the noise coming from."

 

[bears10]

off topic, in a way.
The vehicle attack in NY, at just before either 3 or 4 eastern is being investigated as a terror attack and the suspect's name has been released by ABC news and cBS already.. for the past 90 minutes, his alleged name, not confirmed by LE has been published..!!!
Just take a look at Twitter right now.. watch it and compare..

If you don’t live in NYC or surrounding suburb, it may be difficult to grasp. But I can assure you NYPD is more equipped to deal with acts of terrorism than most police forces. Unfortunately, it’s because we learned the hard way. So you really can’t compare the immediate aftermath of a terrorist attack in NYC to another city that has never had such an attack. Like literally not the same at all.

 

[kittythehare]

“A pellet gun and a paint ball gun”
-but the same end game...?

well, he killed 8 people, injured several and there is footage of him running off after attack. Shot in stomach by NYPD. alive. he is 29. In uSA since 2010,
Unusually ISIS called for attacks on October 31 st. This is unusual, generally they call for attacks on specific locations but they do not date them..
Best thing to do after initial reports is to wait a few days until hysteria dies down and try to extricate some facts..
Sad sad day again.. Sad sad world.

 

[kittythehare]

If you don’t live in NYC or surrounding suburb, it may be difficult to grasp. But I can assure you NYPD is more equipped to deal with acts of terrorism than most police forces. Unfortunately, it’s because we learned the hard way. So you really can’t compare the immediate aftermath of a terrorist attack in NYC to another city that has never had such an attack. Like literally not the same at all.

I was referring to media handling not NYPD actions.

 

[bears10]

I was referring to media handling not NYPD actions.

The media obviously has to get information from somewhere. If the same thing happened in another US city, I would not be surprised if it took longer for info to be released.

 

[Betty P]

-Agree!

-To all of us: can we agree to disagree among what appears to be ‘roughly’ 3 themes for the sake of clogging the thread?

*CT-as in it was all staged-none of it occurred (as far as I know I don’t think we have that here).

*Comfortable with the order of the officials in charge-trusting their reports-not thinking anything is off-no lies.

*Not comfortable with the lack of order-the officials in charge-having difficultly trusting the reports-thinking there is a fair to generous amount of ‘off’

-This thread has become exhausting. There is no reason to personally debate where anyone may be. If you disagree-scroll.

-Questions, speculations, volleying, revisiting, does not imply CT.

-Regardless of whether LE, FBI, MSM, MGM, and any others that apply are forthcoming or not, there will be the cruelty that we see online. There is no excuse to withhold basic info, disguise info, twist info...

Are you sure the Mods will allow discussion of the theory that the whole massacre was faked and that no people were killed or injured? You may want to check on that. WS is a victim friendly forum.

 

[kittythehare]

The media obviously has to get information from somewhere. If the same thing happened in another US city, I would not be surprised if it took longer for info to be released.

I'm not sure I understand your point?
There were several eye witnesses and they were interviewed.

 

[canadiangirl]

Well I guess SP had everything set up before Saturday?

http://www.kitv.com/story/36505487/hawaii-native-parked-shooters-car

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[bears10]

I'm not sure I understand your point?
There were several eye witnesses and they were interviewed.

I’m aware of the eyewitnesses and their interviews - I live in NY, I am watching local news. The eyewitnesses knew the perps name?