NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

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  • #361
That is my point. They dont mention child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 when talking about the other suspects and the charges they are suspected of. Did you read the warrants?

I did. ThereÂ’s no need to be so condescending all the time. Is it not possible they didnÂ’t discover the CP until after the warrants? Is it not possible there are other warrants that were not released? Sheesh.

Eta - I also donÂ’t recall the warrants mentioning his internet search terms.
 
  • #362
I did. There’s no need to be so condescending all the time. Is it not possible they didn’t discover the CP until after the warrants? Is it not possible there are other warrants that were not released? Sheesh.

Eta - I also don’t recall the warrants mentioning his internet search terms.

not sure how you got condescending out of my post. I am saying the warrants tell us exactly what the other suspects are suspected of. And it ain't child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.

If the arrest Lombardo is talking about is a child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 arrest, then this is a bigger PsyOp than i originally thought.
 
  • #363
I thought the hard drive was missing from his computer? Now it has suddenly been found with child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. This report is filled with so many inconsistencies from what was said earlier by Lombardo it makes my head spin. No other suspects, now another person of interest, he should make up his mind and stick to a story.
There were four laptops found at MB. One of them had a missing hard drive. The CP were on the Dell E5570 hard drive which is the same one which had all the open-air venue searches. It also has a search for where is the hard drive located on E5570.
 
  • #364
There was conflicting information on the exact location of theshooter(s) whether it was on the 31st, 32nd, or the 33rd floors.

simply not true. Our Sheriff had to come up with some reason as to why humm humm humm it took them so long

he got it all messed up on purpose-- need to cloud stuff up. IMO there were people aware of the arms stings going on in the hotel. Noone expected it to go so wrong.

Campus instantly told them floor and room -- you hear it on his call

I dont think engineers carry guns

As the door opened on the 31st floor, Security Managers Oelke and Umstott and LVMPD OfficersHendrex and Varsin exited and walked up the 100 wing upon hearing gunshots coming from anunknown direction. Security Manager Sottile and Engineer Alsbury conti

what person would rush , unarmed, to assault rifle sounds? Folks that obviously for whatever reason knew they were not in personal danger. Same with the other two on the floor .

No normal person goes charging towards machine guns!

ah ha!

Rodriguez directed all officers to change their radios to the CCACradio channel. Coordinator Rodriguez monitored both the Events radio channel and CCAC radiochannel throughout the incident.

Dispatch of shots firedand multiple casualties. The radio traffic was accidently broadcast on SEAC radio channel.

This explains that!! I heard a dispatch tape (it was not braodcastify) and tried and tried to find it again .

It blew my mind. It said three large black sedans speeding down XX road heading for the airport. Large black sedans are govt vehicles . But I have never been able to find that page again!

Anyone know what the initials are for . I would love to find it again. It was not a call in from civilians - it was an officer calling the three sedans in TO dispatch.

There was also a report from a cop describing a female in army outfit who picked up speed when (walking) she saw them. He thought it was odd his words roughly -- that she seemed to be running away from the cops.

That fit into (by this time) my sense that there was big govt eee stuff going on here. \\

opps again

Officers assigned to the venue near Mandalay Bay Drive and Las Vegas Boulevard heard theinitial gunshots followed by a long burst of gunfire. I think the initial stuff was on the video with the guy asking what is going on.

It was pops not machine guns --

......so now we have a cop, a trained observer -- with binoculars - who describes:

Approximately three-quarters of the way upthe tower on the north end, Detective Balonek observed a silhouette of a male standing in ashooting position several feet back from a window. Detective Balonek could see the smoke fromthe male shooting, however, no muzzle flashes were observed.

Binoculars

he could not get on radio and used another channel

Engineer Schuck walked approximately one third of the wayup the hallway when he observed Security Officer Campos poke his head into the hallway froma space between two rooms on Engineer SchuckÂ’s right hand side.


This is not what he said in the interview posted earlier -- he said he saw a head pop out after shots started not before

opppssss

He also reported (sounded practiced to me) that he thinks he saw jesus pop out -- what person who has just been shot is going to stick his head into a hallway ?? Makes no sense. The other guy was on carpet -- there would be no reason for someone to stick there head out in a hallway when this stuff is going on

It also struck me as odd (again as if practicing) I found it odd that he declared that he went LEFT -- that is a very weird relevant detail it is just weird

He also claimed he requested police be called . LVPD claims they got no calls -- which is benazir in and of itself.

humm

just slipped on this !

This feed will be only monitoring the Las VegasMetropolitan Police Department Convention Center Area Command (CCAC) calls utilizing a BCD536HP scanner. LVMPD Convention Center Area Command-Talk Group ID 10007. LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT INCIDENT/DISPOSITION ...

I wonder if we can find the other channel -- where the black sedans were reported.

https://www.google.com/search?q=CCA...rome..69i57.4539j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I never heard this till now?

officers realized the gunfire was coming from an elevated positionand was directed at the patrol vehicles.





Officers knew the gunfire was coming from MandalayBay
how could that be??


We go back in time at that point in time reports were coming in that shooting was happening at other places

Each group was given information the shooter waspossibly on the 29th or 31st floors and taken there by elevator

again on the calls both men stated where they were

After each group of officers weretaken to the upper floors, they instructed the hotel security guards to lock out the elevators.

not the way the engineer described what happened

something is funky here

which included two SWAT officers, was taken to the Foundation Room located onthe top floor. Once inside the bar, officers began to move occupants to a safe location and clearthe bar.

The top floor of the building is another hotel that is not connected to elevators in MB. The FOur Seasons has its own elevator system.

With a separate entrance and accessed by private express elevators, Four Seasons Hotel offers stylish renovated guest rooms located on the top floors of the Mandalay Bay tower.

Four Seasons is housed on floors 36-39 of Mandalay bay however they have their own entrance


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The sound of gunfire had ceased so the officersconducted slow and methodical evacuations as they moved up the hallway.

This also makes no sense other than to cover why they took so long. The pattern of firing was start pause start -- this happened over and over -- how could they know that the break at that time was the last burst?

start stop start stop -- hard to determine if the last stop was the finale.

He covered the camera, and turned it away from thedoorway while Officer Hancock hung the explosive on the door to room 32-135. Once the chargewas hung on the door, the officers returned to the stairwell.

How come in the pics the camera is clearly visible? Were things being arranged --- hummmm!

Increase music! We just now learn that there 6 officers who breached .

basic facts .

Apparent blood was located on the revolver

I never saw any blood on gun anyone?

Paddock was laying on top of a rifle.

oppsss a gun way laying on top of paddock dont ya hate it

one negligent discharge of a three round burst from his rifle

how do rifles work as it relates to this ??

. Another food servicecart draped in a white table cloth was in this hallway.

?????

several room keys

beep beep a no no

The officers also rolled Paddockonto his side

officers exited and secured the room.

is this the yellow tape securing the room!!

A rifle was on the floor under his legs. maybe this was when LE messed with the crime scene - when they rolled him around looking for something. It looks like they tried to put it back a bit which would explain the silly postion of the rifle nicely on top of his leg. They should know better -- moving dead people around in a crime scene is not generally appreciated !!

When you guys are in a hotel room do you leave your driver license credit cards out all over the place??

I tend not to .

Expended .223/5.56 cartridge casings (approximately 1,050). is it normal to take a guess at it??
 
  • #365
not sure how you got condescending out of my post. I am saying the warrants tell us exactly what the other suspects are suspected of. And it ain't child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.

If the arrest Lombardo is talking about is a child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 arrest, then this is a bigger PsyOp than i originally thought.

play around with the paradise island stuff in the philippines what these folks were up to had not earned them any boy scout badges

I think he got busted for some pretty bad things a bit back and had to turn to stay free

think about it he had planes (and got a license) what do we need to transports guns drugs children etc etc)

perfect criminal record --

like everyone else connected to this they are angels -- anyone really know anyone Jesus age and the engineer age who have zero internet presence??

these are things the govt does for informants

they certainly zoomed Marilou out of site while armed guards were guarding Jesus house without Jesus in it .

So what were they guarding?

Obviously a lot of people thought some people were in harms way. He was hailed as a hero in the beginning -- heros tend not to require being hidden away for weeks and armed guards and visits out of the country

they need rest !!!!

Jesus and the other guy do not exist on line who you gonna call the fbi to make one not exist!!

Education history anything they are zero on line!

Anyone know anything about either of these guys ? NOthing!! Zero -- very peculiar in this day and age and age bracket. !!

There was one thing on the valet guy -- as far as I know he was the only valet that talked only to find out today that he had multiple interactions with valet staff and those interactions involved lots of luggage.

Why was the valet that had minimal bag action the only one known??

We now know that the doors are intensely monitored ( deadlocks and stuff)

why did we not get a detailed in and out of room for all days??

my hunch -- not all of them were only him or housekeeping!!

He is seen all over the place on the video and there is not one interview with anyone who had a face to face with him apparently

Where are the interviews with the room service deliveries?

the refridge restock folks

the Sushi staff that interacted with him

Check in staff?

Bell hops

noone the only contact reported is with Maylou -- kinda

it is just not normal stuff !!!

In a hotel introverts (!) have a presence casinos have cameras all over the place

all this time there was not one server mentioned that attempted to get him a drink?

for hours and hours in a 5 star resort casino?

no reports of any winnings in all the casinos they report he was at?

Winnings are documented - why in this report are there no mentions of money spent and his expertise winning millions at a video game !!!!

spoke to noone?

Its kinda silly and they are getting away with it

the report is very selective , leaves out much stuff that a real investigation mentions.

Money is huge in this tragedy how did he pay for all his military purchases ?

that is traceable stuff -- but if he was undercover his income flow could not be addressed or mentioned.

It is not illegal to make money gambling.

So if someone has income it has to be dirty or a undercover or a paycheck!!! -- how else do people earn money!!!

It sounds like he had lots of accounts -- hummmm!!!!!!!!!!

something stinks!!!!!! ha





hummmmmmm...........
 
  • #366
They are the fbi evidence Response Teams. HereÂ’s an excerpt of their job description/training. Note the last sentence.

Hazardous Evidence Response Team Program

The HERT program provides support to the U.S. governmentÂ’s response to incidents and threats involving weapons of mass destruction. Additionally, HERTs support investigations of terrorism and the criminal use of chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear (CBRN) materials. The HERT program provides training, leadership, and subject-matter experts in hazardous evidence collection, crime scene management, and the processing of forensic evidence in CBRN crime scenes.


Am not being nasty!

processing of forensic evidence does NOT include using the opposite end of a paint roller and slamming bullet fragments further into the ground before burying them in asphalt!!

When I first saw all those videos I thought if the scene was cleared buy some astro turf and cover it up -- cheap and quick

as a taxpayer I thought what a waste of our money FBI degree not needed to asphalt over spots -- it is crazy stuff !!

Were true crime folks -- have any of us ever seen people in FBI jackets slamming evidence into the ground !!

It blew my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #367
We will never know the truth....and trying to find it is more frustrating then trying to nail jello to a tree,

The planning for this was probably more complicated then the 9/11 planning....another event where the truth will never be found
 
  • #368
You're planning a mass shooting. WHY buy fake flowers, a vase, and Styrofoam ball? Was someone else with him when these were purchased? Sounds a supplies for a DYI.
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I thought the same thing my dear -- a suicidal mass shooter is doing arts and crafts

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Funny I just thought i have never heard of a suicidal pt making fake flower arrangements before putting a gun down their throat!!

It just aint congruent!!

He sure as heck did not have a depressed apatite! HA

Ordering two entrees on several occasions !!

Apparently he using the stuff in the stocked fridge as well !! And going out to dinner!!

does not sound like a suicidal person to me!


I also found valium as opposed to xanax unique as well.

The hundred thousand over there to her might be a payment needed over their for something ??

What a mess huh guys?
 
  • #369
If I was a betting man. I'd agree.
I have zero proof, but it's a hunch he was a dealer and was on CIA's FBI's radar already.
His gf knows a more than she is letting on also.


or had gotten busted -- he just quit keeping his pilot license current.

I think he got busted , and had to turn
 
  • #370
I think the two meal entrees were consistently ordered as a means to an end: to help hide the camera and to not seem unusual to order more than one meal. One plate was turned over on top of the camera.

I can't believe nobody thought 'wow that man sure has a lot of luggage' with all of the luggage maneuvers, even though they did mention he had different bellboys for the two bigger trips. [emoji102]
 
  • #371
There is proof he was a dealer. They pretty much said it in one of the warrants.... "he was buying and selling firearms"

Also, for what other purpose would somebody be transporting weapons, ammo and explosives and bringing them into hotel rooms?

The whole notion that a mass shooter needs dozens of machine guns to carry out a massacre has been insane from day two

how can one person use dozens of machine guns!! \\

ha talk about over prepared!!

From the beginning how could one not instantly go to dealing arms.

Most people don't like cruising around with Tenerite in there car either!!

He was involved with very bad people!!

Any of us know anyone who collects bomb materials for good reasons!!

I think the attempt at the gas tanks was connected to janet air -- in some way

just a thought!!
 
  • #372
FYI - the "email trick" made popular by terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda, and likely used by Paddock is known as a "virtual dead drop". I think we should use that term here for consistency and to avoid confusion.


wow cool

aint that something !!

Well ill be darned !!!!!!!!

A dead drop or dead letter box is a method of espionage tradecraft used to pass items or information between two individuals using a secret location, thus not requiring them to meet directly and thereby maintaining operational security.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7)][FONT=&quot]The way it works is that an individual, or planner opens an email account through a free service (like Google gmail, Hotmail or Yahoo) writes an email, then saves it as a “draft.”[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7)][FONT=&quot]That person then transmit the account information via another forum or communication means (i.e. telephone call or letter), which allows another recipient, operating from another location (usually in another part of the world) to go in and read that message, without it ever actually having to be sent in the first place. Thus avoiding even the best and most sophisticated email monitoring programs.

Ah ha Cool -- he was communicating with Marilou over there and she needed money for some "business" over there

now were rockin Cool!

And she had to get out of there quick or she would be whatever

operation interrupted that may be the FBI case... on her end I am going with human trafficking --- just speculating -- its big stuff over there

I also found it interesting today to learn that he got money to her in more than one transaction--kinda like separate purchase orders.

The way they played it it was like a suicidal take care of her -- when I saw today that it was mutlple I thought jeezzz id your gonna kill yourself why not just do it once !

good catch Cool wow

I was surprised when he said one person of interest with the FBI -- he has been so sneaky I thought oh now he is gonna come clean

makes me think something will break soon -- and he could be caught in another lie if like next week an arrest comes that has some connection to this.

But I would think if they were not close he would not mention it cause it could blow it??

Human trafficking would be FBI also




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it SO fits !!! ty
 
  • #373
Two things stand out.
The first thing I noticed, being pedantic while confounded, was that the language was not correct - grammar etc.. yet there was no prior information that he was not well educated.. so I started thinking it was about something else..
Sending e-mails to one's own a/c or drafts has been explained by Cool-J..

So it is a code of some description and the only hope of interpreting it is if we can find someone who is well versed in and has a good working knowledge about gambling and weapons.. it's possible there is a DUMMIES for weapons Dealers online... but there may be an easier way to find out whether it belongs in one or either of those categories..
None of the well known terrorist groups communicate in this fashion.

I dont know where I get this - maybe brother! SP has never hit me as educated

that depo for the lawsuit -- he sounded like a schlep that was insecure and the only way any of them felt big was to alleged they were rich

He was an accountant in the old days -- I would assume back then that entails creating two columns on a spreadsheet and adding and subtracting!!

He was initially portrayed as this Lockheed

genius! He was an accountant!

Same thing with the trajectories I was expecting all these formulas!!

It was two equations!!

how could there be anything sophisticated about that -- I would think if your shooting over a large area distance from gun would result in many calculations!!

then he misses big tanks -- dont think was a wiz kid!!!
 
  • #374
Houston we have more problems

the machine gun on the tripod by the front door has been totally moved from the intial pictures that were supposedly leaked and the ones in yesterday's report. In todays pics it is in the bathroom??

How did we get to total being down on the ground yesterday vs the one with half of siad door was gone ( the one with the yellow crime tape)

how does a door go from being half gone on the top to all together in another picture

the crime scene seems altered more

picture six with the curtain over the couch is daytime??

I did not notice at first his body is in picture 7

houston we have another problem

how did debris pic 9 from the breach end up underneath the gun ?? kinda impossible unless someone moved more stuff around


same pic upper right you can see the door all of it on the floor

HOw does a door to from being in one peice to this in a crime scene??

crime-scene.jpg



Houston we have another problem!!

in pic 10 how is the lid to the cooler and the blue tube on TOP of debris again the only way for that to happen is to have things moved AFTER le was in the room just logic

Houston we have a problem

they claimed the other door inside was locked until now I thought it was just a regular door knob it is a dead bolt

a dead bolt can only be locked from one side cant have a dead body on the other side can ya!

houston we have a problem! \\

In pic 19 how do you put hot machine guns on a white mattress pad and there are no burns

Houston we have a problem

Is it only me or is the last 24 hours the first time any of us have heard about a second food cart?? back to basic facts a second staff member nothing for weeks

basic facts

I found the second cart far more interesting in that it had the laptop never talked about

I think the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is planted murk everything up

amazing that the brother had some and now him
 
  • #375
I dont know where I get this - maybe brother! SP has never hit me as educated

that depo for the lawsuit -- he sounded like a schlep that was insecure and the only way any of them felt big was to alleged they were rich

He was an accountant in the old days -- I would assume back then that entails creating two columns on a spreadsheet and adding and subtracting!!

He was initially portrayed as this Lockheed

genius! He was an accountant!

Same thing with the trajectories I was expecting all these formulas!!

It was two equations!!

how could there be anything sophisticated about that -- I would think if your shooting over a large area distance from gun would result in many calculations!!

then he misses big tanks -- dont think was a wiz kid!!!

I don't know if you guys have seen this video yet and I tried to search for it in the forum but didn't find any previous posts regarding it but I could be missing something. Don't want to repost.

Anyway this lawyer that represents some of the victims of the shooting obtained this video from a restaurant near the area where the shooting occurred. A body is dragged into the middle of the scene of the video by a couple of people and left there for over two hours before being loaded onto a truck. The lawyer said that law enforcement never contacted the restaurant (maybe they were overwhelmed with work, who knows, I'm not going to disparage them). The lack of answers and the voids created warrant so much anxiety and questions.. it's perplexing.

I've been reading over these nine threads because I love the insight, stuff I've glazed over previously, and the loads of information I had no knowledge of so I wanted to contribute.

https://youtu.be/oojIv5bamjI
 
  • #376
HOw come DHS has never been mentioned in all of this

how do you know in 90 minutes it is not terror related

the minute it went to white male poof no terrorism
 
  • #377
I don't know if you guys have seen this video yet and I tried to search for it in the forum but didn't find any previous posts regarding it but I could be missing something. Don't want to repost.

Anyway this lawyer that represents some of the victims of the shooting obtained this video from a restaurant near the area where the shooting occurred. A body is dragged into the middle of the scene of the video by a couple of people and left there for over two hours before being loaded onto a truck. The lawyer said that law enforcement never contacted the restaurant (maybe they were overwhelmed with work, who knows, I'm not going to disparage them). The lack of answers and the voids created warrant so much anxiety and questions.. it's perplexing.

I've been reading over these nine threads because I love the insight, stuff I've glazed over previously, and the loads of information I had no knowledge of so I wanted to contribute.

https://youtu.be/oojIv5bamjI

those darn non existent helicopters just keep buzzing all over the place don't they!!

It is also fascinating how long it took to report that a hard drive missing

basic facts

listening to presser now

liar liar pants on fire he is claiming that he reported his financial situation was poor

all i recall is how wealthy this whole gang was

oi vey

he is now telling us how transparent he has been he vanished after 7 days i don't call that transparent

to see transparent see Pulse handling

ahh right after talking about how transparent he is he tells the world he told the fbi he does want them at the presser

Transparent!!!


ah ha Mr transparent acknowledged that he has now made dispatch recordings encrypted so that the public cant hear anything his transparent dept is doing!

sounds like an upright chap to me!!

Mr transparency has continued his policy of only MSM media allowed in his pressers that transparency is oozing out !!


ah ha there is a federal grand jury in the other deal

Cant stand him he is currupt as heck -- tranparent my ushie he did not reveal for ages a cop fired off his gun for ages

that is call keeping secrets dude you really expect me to believe that one of the cops never told you that night that his gun went off come on that has nothing to do with a crime investigation that is stalling until public interest faded -- you cant fool us ha !!

Its not like the discharge killed anyone so why did they care that the public knew three bullets hit a wall for ages

do any of you know what time he says metro was called on this he claimed the time was in the report?

At the onset of presser he goes into great detail about how much longer this investigation will go then definativily state that Paddock is the only shooter

that is like diagnosing cancer before lab work comes back

i hope he likes eggs!!
 
  • #378
I did. There’s no need to be so condescending all the time. Is it not possible they didn’t discover the CP until after the warrants? Is it not possible there are other warrants that were not released? Sheesh.

Eta - I also don’t recall the warrants mentioning his internet search terms.

Seeing stuff about the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and search warrants, so perhaps we need some clarification.

Search warrants are composed and submitted to a judge before a search is done. The officer or detective has to outline the various items they will be looking for and why they want to search them. Based on the nature of the criminal activity they are aware of at the time, they have to describe for the judge the various items they expect to find or items they've seen around during their first visit to the crime scene. They try to include as many things as possible. Once the judge approves the SW, the investigators retrieve the items and examine them.

In the case of Paddock, they knew he had instigated a mass shooting with many guns from his hotel room. They would have included in their SW all the computers, hard drives, etc. and likely gave general reasons related to information and evidence about the shooting, acquiring of weapons, planning, etc. Initially, they had no reason to suspect Paddock was involved with child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, so wouldn't have included that in the first SW.

Once the SW is approved by a judge, the search has been completed and evidence examined, investigators list the evidence they did find. Sometimes that includes more criminal evidence than they initially though they would find, esp. on a computer hard drive, USB drive, etc. Investigators aren't psychic. They do the best they can to describe to a judge the kinds of things they want to search for and why before they do the search. They weren't planning to look for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 specifically, so they didn't include it in the first SW submitted to a judge.
 
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