NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

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  • #401
Houston we have more problems

the machine gun on the tripod by the front door has been totally moved from the intial pictures that were supposedly leaked and the ones in yesterday's report. In todays pics it is in the bathroom??

How did we get to total being down on the ground yesterday vs the one with half of siad door was gone ( the one with the yellow crime tape)

how does a door go from being half gone on the top to all together in another picture

the crime scene seems altered more

picture six with the curtain over the couch is daytime??

I did not notice at first his body is in picture 7

houston we have another problem

how did debris pic 9 from the breach end up underneath the gun ?? kinda impossible unless someone moved more stuff around


same pic upper right you can see the door all of it on the floor

HOw does a door to from being in one peice to this in a crime scene??

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Houston we have another problem!!

in pic 10 how is the lid to the cooler and the blue tube on TOP of debris again the only way for that to happen is to have things moved AFTER le was in the room just logic

Houston we have a problem

they claimed the other door inside was locked until now I thought it was just a regular door knob it is a dead bolt

a dead bolt can only be locked from one side cant have a dead body on the other side can ya!

houston we have a problem! \\

In pic 19 how do you put hot machine guns on a white mattress pad and there are no burns

Houston we have a problem

Is it only me or is the last 24 hours the first time any of us have heard about a second food cart?? back to basic facts a second staff member nothing for weeks

basic facts

I found the second cart far more interesting in that it had the laptop never talked about

I think the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is planted murk everything up

amazing that the brother had some and now him

Ok, I’m way behind, haven’t had time to read all the warrants or reports in full, don’t know that I will. At this point I have questions though.....

The child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 thing has my antenna up... what do you guys think? Is it legit?

Was SP being investigated for that after he knew his brother for the same thing? And he really was involved as well, so he became really paranoid, possibly he had some mental health issues already? And he lost it and decided to strike back before he got taken down?

Or, was the CP planted on his computer. Four lap tops? Why? It just seems rather strange this popped up now, was it a matter of convenience , an easy way for LE to paint SP in a more negative light and deflect from what really happened? As in anyone else being involved? IDK, something seems off to me. JMO
 
  • #402
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"...[[email protected]] sent an email to [email protected] which read, 'try an ar before u buy. we have huge selection. located in the las vegas area,' Later the day, an email was received back from [email protected] to [[email protected]] that read, 'we have a wide variety of optics and ammunition to try.' And lastly, [[email protected] sent an email to [email protected] that read, 'for a thrill try out bumpfire ar's with a 100 round magazine.' Investigators believe these communications may have been related to the eventual attack that occurred at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas."

The exchanges took place nearly three months before the onslaught. And CNN reports that "investigators at the time of the filing had been unable to determine if Paddock was sending emails between two accounts both belonging to himself, or was communicating with someone else."
In addition to the two email addresses, the FBI requested and was granted warrants to search Paddock and Danley's Facebook and Instagram accounts. Paddock's Amazon account is also under investigation, as well as a locked phone that was found in his room at the Mandalay Bay.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...e-las-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-acted-swiftly

These are emails from SPs accounts? Sounds like he’s into gun sales, no ?
 
  • #403
Ok, I’m way behind, haven’t had time to read all the warrants or reports in full, don’t know that I will. At this point I have questions though.....

The child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 thing has my antenna up... what do you guys think? Is it legit?

Was SP being investigated for that after he knew his brother for the same thing? And he really was involved as well, so he became really paranoid, possibly he had some mental health issues already? And he lost it and decided to strike back before he got taken down?

Or, was the CP planted on his computer. Four lap tops? Why? It just seems rather strange this popped up now, was it a matter of convenience , an easy way for LE to paint SP in a more negative light and deflect from what really happened? As in anyone else being involved? IDK, something seems off to me. JMO
I reckon its legit.
I have seen nothing to suggest they had him on their scopes because of his brother's charges.
It is documented in the report.. well worth reading, it's the only factual info we do have and its a very good report.

I believe the second case they are pursuing is in relation to these images, possibly the seller, there were hundreds of them according to the report. That is the reason all the warrant info has not been released yet..

It is possible he was involved in trading these images which rings more true than gun trading to my eyes.
Again, I am speculating re his possible trading of child exploitation..but hundreds is a lot.
we have no information yet regarding the scale and degree of depravity depicted in these images.. if mega it is likely to lead to a big International investigation which may take some time..
We will know no more until feds finish their work here.

It didn't just pop up now, it is among the reports of the computer equipment found in his hotel room.


Here's a link to report , its well worth reading https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf
 
  • #404
I reckon its legit.
I have seen nothing to suggest they had him on their scopes because of his brother's charges.
It is documented in the report.. well worth reading, it's the only factual info we do have and its a very good report.

I believe the second case they are pursuing is in relation to these images, possibly the seller, there were hundreds of them according to the report. That is the reason all the warrant info has not been released yet..

It is possible he was involved in trading these images which rings more true than gun trading to my eyes.
Again, I am speculating re his possible trading of child exploitation..but hundreds is a lot.
we have no information yet regarding the scale and degree of depravity depicted in these images.. if mega it is likely to lead to a big International investigation which may take some time..
We will know no more until feds finish their work here.

It didn't just pop up now, it is among the reports of the computer equipment found in his hotel room.


Here's a link to report , its well worth reading https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf

Thanks , I could see him being involved in that, wonder if it was with his brother. Not that it would matter, unless they already had their sites on him as a result of investigation of his brother.

So, did it have anything to do with the LV shooting? I’m just trying to figure out what was going on with this creep andwhat caused him to do what he did. I do still wonder if he was running guns. I haven’t had time to read all the documentation. Appreciate your help, kitty!
 
  • #405
Thanks , I could see him being involved in that, wonder if it was with his brother. Not that it would matter, unless they already had their sites on him as a result of investigation of his brother.

So, did it have anything to do with the LV shooting? I’m just trying to figure out what was going on with this creep andwhat caused him to do what he did. I do still wonder if he was running guns. I haven’t had time to read all the documentation. Appreciate your help, kitty!
I'm not thinking it did but to be sure would need to check date of brother's indictment for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.. it would not necessarily have been mentioned either because that investigation is ongoing.
He was planning this for a year or more. This is a copy paste from page 47 of the report
The following websites were accessed using an IE private browser: http://lineup.lifeisbeautiful.com/ https://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl https://lifeisbeautiful.com/ticket/ http://search.topvegascondos.com/i/the-ogden-downtown-las-vegas-condos-forrent https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#...ta+monica+beach+get&spf=1495082236761 https://www.vividseats.com/blog/category/all-concerts/ https://www.vividseats.com/blog/fenway-park-concerts-and-seating https://www.vividseats.com/blog/the-14-best-outdoor-concert-venues-in-the-us http://tsminteractive.com/what-are-the-most-crowded-beaches-in-america/ https://www.yelp.com/biz/santa-monica-state-beach-santa-monica https://www.vividseats.com/blog/memorial-day-weekend-2017.htmlThe following websites were accessed using Internet Explorer: www.grantparkmusicfestival.com/ 05-18-17 0419 hours www.ticketmaster.com/ 05-18-17 at 0427 hours ticketmaster.com/ 05-18-17 at 0431 hours www.sandiego.org/ 05-18-17 at 0505 hours sandiego.org/ 05-18-17 at 0505 hours www.vividseats.com/ 05-18-17 at 0540 hours www.lasvegascondoexperts.com/ 09-04-17 at 2212 hours lasvegashighrisetour.com/ 09-04-17 at 2213 hours www.thehighrisegroup.com/ 09-04-17 at 2214 hours

Evidence Item Dell Laptop Computer Recovered in Room 32-135Computer forensic analysis of a Dell laptop Model E5570 revealed numerous internet searchesfor open air venues. Additionally, several hundred images of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 were located onthe computer’s hard drive. The investigation into the source of these images is ongoing. Thefollowing internet searches from this laptop are indicated below:Google Search Queries How tall is Mandalay Bay/ Unknown date NV gun shows/ 09-02-17 & 09-30-17 Life is Beautiful 2017/ 09-20-2017 Excalibur Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 Las Vegas Academy of the Arts Performing Arts Center/ 09-23-17 Fremont Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 El Cortez Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 Family Courts & Services Center/ 09-23-17 Gary Reese Freedom Park/ 09-23-17 https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf
I just copy pasted a small part of it.
He had this plan.
He researched it thoroughly before deciding on a venue..

The Discovery children's museum was searched by him sept 23 and again sept 26.
I wonder why?

My instinct says he would have had very little to do with the brother convicted for the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.. several hundreds of images is a lot tho..
could be another 60 days before feds tie that down, if not longer..
 
  • #406
Pg50/81
https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf

The room was secured for evidence recovery. The FBI Evidence Recovery Team respondedand took the lead role on documentation and recovery of all evidence inside the hotel rooms andhallway.

If fBI took responsibility for evidence, were the leaked photographs released during their curatorship or before or afterwards.
Many images of the room seem altered which suggests search teams had finished with them and stuff was moved around.. again without a trackback or forensic examination of each leaked photo we will only be able to guess at times.

Ditto re his body photos.. his body was moved from room
Report, same page, does not note a time for removal, a tad strange, maybe
Law Enforcement and the CCOCME took custody of Paddock’s body. The body wasphotographed and transported to the CCOCME where an autopsy was conducted.
 
  • #407
Paddock's vehicle- from the report
0 of 81Force Investigation TeamLocated inside the master bedroom of suite 32-135 were hand drills, drill bits, severalmiscellaneous tools, and equipment Paddock used to drill holes, run wires, and set upsurveillance cameras that showed the 100 wing hallway. Inside the bedroom were several emptyammunition boxes, live rounds, loaded rifle magazines, duffle bags, suitcases, two laptopcomputers (one of which was broken and missing the hard drive), snorkeling kit bag, divingmask, circular glass cutter with suction cup and miscellaneous personal items.Located throughout the main living area of the suite were 18 rifles, one handgun, rifle casings,and loaded magazines. A blue plastic tube, was fashioned with a fan on one end and snorkelmouthpiece on the other end. A spotting scope on a tripod was on the floor near Paddocks bodyand a slip of paper was on a small table with hand written distances on it. Several suitcases andbags were throughout the main room containing personal items and loaded rifle magazines. Alaptop computer was located on the bar and connected to a live feed camera attached to thepeephole of the main door to suite 32-135.Room 32-134 was an adjoining room to suite 32-135 used by Paddock. Located inside the roomwere five rifles, casings, live ammunition and several loaded magazines. A pair of gloves werelocated on one of the beds and sandals were located on the floor near the bed. Inside thebathroom, a snorkel tube was located in the trash. A room service receipt and a cardboard boxwith mailing labels was also located in the bathroom. In the walkway leading to the door to themain hallway was a food service cart. A laptop computer was located on the food service cart.It was connected to two live feed cameras and a battery pack with wires connecting it to thecameras on the food service cart in the 100 wing hallway.All evidence located and recovered inside suite 32-135 and room 32-134 indicated Paddock wascapable of watching people in the hallway. There was no suicide note or manifesto located insideeither room.Paddock's VehiclePaddock’s vehicle was located in Mandalay Bay East Valet, 2nd floor, space 317 by investigators.The vehicle a 2017 Chrysler Pacific bearing Nevada plate 79D401 had been backed into space317 and was locked. The key for the vehicle was obtained from valet.A

A search warrant was obtained and at 0325 hours, detectives with the LVMPD All-HazardRegional Multi agency Operations and Response Section (ARMOR) broke a window to thevehicle, to allow an explosive detection dog access to the scent from inside the vehicle. A U.S.Marshall explosive detection K9 moved around the vehicle and gave an alert to the presence ofexplosive precursors.

Detectives secured the area on the belief there were explosive precursors within the vehicle.ARMOR detectives requested LVMPD dispatch notify the Las Vegas Fire and Rescue Chemical,Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive Task Force (CBRNE) respond. Las Vegas FireRescue responded with their CBRNE vehicle along with FBI bomb technicians. Located insidethe vehicle were five bags which were x-rayed and removed by the FBI.
 
  • #408
That's interesting. JMO, I still think he was involved in money laundering or something similar. This is worth looking into.

my hubby was from a gambling family, in that his dad took him to the horse races once a week as their daddy, 1st kid outing. Hubby learned all there is to know about gambling. They also went to casinos where my hubby got a good understanding of how the entire racket I shall call it, works. He said there is no way to win all the time at video poker. He said it would be like saying you won the lotto every week. The house always wins. However if you had 2 million dollars of dirty money you put it in a machine and get back 1 million clean money, you won that from Vegas! Look how lucky you were. This is my point. It should be obvious SP was washing the he** out of that bad money.
 
  • #409
The double doors between the large suite and the small room has locks on both sides. The small suite door was locked from the inside. Im sorry I cannot remember where I read that but I did see it in several articles. How did this happen? Only way would be to lock the door then exit into the hall and return to large suite from that same main hall. Why?
 
  • #410
my hubby was from a gambling family, in that his dad took him to the horse races once a week as their daddy, 1st kid outing. Hubby learned all there is to know about gambling. They also went to casinos where my hubby got a good understanding of how the entire racket I shall call it, works. He said there is no way to win all the time at video poker. He said it would be like saying you won the lotto every week. The house always wins. However if you had 2 million dollars of dirty money you put it in a machine and get back 1 million clean money, you won that from Vegas! Look how lucky you were. This is my point. It should be obvious SP was washing the he** out of that bad money.
The report did not detail his financial records at all. It merely stated that his earnings came from or appeared to come wholly from gambling and he had repaid all his debts before he died. I am suspecting it was withheld pending the federal investigation into his child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 collection. It is possible it was a lucrative business for him too.. speculation on my part.

It's really interesting what you said about video poker..yet, he won for so long, so often that I once thought he had been murdered because he had developed a trick for beating the machines and it would be a huge threat to them...

Maybe he had... or the trick wasn't used for the last 12 months of his life and he was forced to play without using it.. and that's how he lost all his money.
 
  • #411
The double doors between the large suite and the small room has locks on both sides. The small suite door was locked from the inside. Im sorry I cannot remember where I read that but I did see it in several articles. How did this happen? Only way would be to lock the door then exit into the hall and return to large suite from that same main hall. Why?
In the report it shows that all door openings and closings were recorded and timed precisely.
There's also a list of each door and a code number, as far as I remember.. it didn't suggest anomalies but its quite possible it wasn't something I read properly.
 
  • #412
Weird random question. If he left a will, would his estate be distributed as per his instructions, or is everything being "frozen" pending lawsuits?
 
  • #413
I don't know if you guys have seen this video yet and I tried to search for it in the forum but didn't find any previous posts regarding it but I could be missing something. Don't want to repost.

Anyway this lawyer that represents some of the victims of the shooting obtained this video from a restaurant near the area where the shooting occurred. A body is dragged into the middle of the scene of the video by a couple of people and left there for over two hours before being loaded onto a truck. The lawyer said that law enforcement never contacted the restaurant (maybe they were overwhelmed with work, who knows, I'm not going to disparage them). The lack of answers and the voids created warrant so much anxiety and questions.. it's perplexing.

I've been reading over these nine threads because I love the insight, stuff I've glazed over previously, and the loads of information I had no knowledge of so I wanted to contribute.

https://youtu.be/oojIv5bamjI
very very interesting video.
 
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In the report it shows that all door openings and closings were recorded and timed precisely.
There's also a list of each door and a code number, as far as I remember.. it didn't suggest anomalies but its quite possible it wasn't something I read properly.

Ramblings!

It is wildly important and telling imo.

I did not know till yesterday pics it is a deadbolt lock on the inside.

They report his body in the big room

The place is rigged with cameras - he obviously does not want to be going out in the hallway !

The only logical answer is there was more than one person involved.

If it were not this case , I do not , for whatever reason why the American public wants to buy all the loopholes in this - would conclude that other people were in the adjoining room and let them selves out through that rooms front door .

There are reasons why they had to wait to breach and it was not that they had no idea what room and floor was involved.

That is just not true. Both the humm humm security guard and humm humm the maintenance man clearly stated it -- it is on several recordings. The guy on the other end read it back.

They could not breach until things were "taken care of"

How on earth breached door wood stuff gets under big rifles has only one answer. Stuff was moved. Or magic powers - our only two choices! Its in the pics released ... you can see it with your own eyes. That Blue hose thing is also on top of wooden fragments. On top. Stuff falls onto not under.

Generally speaking sticking a gun in one face and pulling the trigger can be noted as a violent event. How does a machine gun end up so nicely displayed on top of a dead mans leg?

HIs body was nowhere near one of the broken windows. What possible reason would there be for little bullets to be all nice around his head? I would assume they are the same caliber as the revolver. Why would revolver bullets be surrounding a dead mans head? One has to be alive to place bullets - so it obviously was not him! Who placed also those little bullets so nicely around the area?

Does anyone know if the laptop on the cart in the smaller room is the one with the alleged missing hard drive.

In fact, it would be rather for easy for campus to use his master key , get whatever he needed for urgent drive to Mexico to satisfy his instant compulsion to visit his family

Up until yesterday I thought it was it a knob type lock -- a deadbolt = others involved.

Just common sense.

There would be nor reason , if alone , for Paddock to lock the door go out in the hallway and come back in -- serves no person.

However other people in the adjoining room would want to increase their security from LE by locking that door.

It is so confusing to me how the media seems to have bought this notion that some madman believes he needs 24 machine guns to commit a mass shooting.

WIth the release of the report it becomes even more ludicrous.

What suicidal madman is making driving hauls , schelping up hundreds of pounds of stuff for days while having only two hands - with two hands only one has no need for 24 machine guns to kill people .

Since I found out about all about gun runners and Mexico role in that operation it becomes even easier to come to a logical conclusion -- he was running guns wither for money or as an informant with AFT.


It also aligns with shocking news that a grand jury is in process for a federal situation.

That IMO means arms, drugs or trafficking.

I think stuff is gonna break soon -- the real reason for the last 4 days was they had to set up the world for impending angle as it relates to mystery grand jury.

THey dont convene GJ unless they are pretty confident it will move on.

Lombardo had to protect his earned distrust by most.

There setting up a tale --to cover whatever operations were going on

Not sure if I remember correctly but I think the day the brother supposedly had child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on his computer was the same day as they decided to let the world know that supposedly a hard drive was missing.

There is nothing going on here!! Then as the other case is getting ready to go public -- houndreds of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on SP computer is released to the public. Humm

What is the first thing a forensic computer does ? Removes the hard drive.

The last couple of days stinks up stuff more than the smell of bullsh@@ since Oct 2.

WIth the grand jury stuff I don't think they will be able to keep the BS going. YEH !

Obviously, for Lombardo to reveal a grand jury in process, in a major news conference, regarding Los Vegas shooting, clearly indicates there is a correlation between the two!!

It was also interesting that this is the first time ever our creepy FBI guys was not around. THey are trying to back the FBI away, in the public mind , of the shooting.

When is the last time in history that the FBI takes the back seat in major stuff like this.

Never.

In addition to put a 5 member agency who investigates corruption in the biggest mass shooting is like asking a dentist to perform a heart transplant.

His excuse was manpower. Whatever, then late last night I discovered that dept consists of 5 people. What a manpower reducer 5 cops that have no experience in this stuff.

And there was a whole political dance going on with this angle. I cant remember her name , tho , to provide ya all with that bunch of nonsense!!

I also found it laughable that he reports the behavioral analysis unit out of Reston is STILL working on it.

Another lie. The person they are profiling is in an urn somewhere. Behavioral profiling does not take 5 months on a dead person.



What data they have , as it relates to this angle is in. In reality, they are used to quickly identify and create profiles to help LE catch bad people.

That is their mandate. That is what they do. people who are alive continue to "behave". People who are ashes in a safe do not.

Just silly stuff again IMO.

I am somewhat confused tho. Last night it seems as if there was several info dumbs in the last week.

One is referred to as 300 some pages and an earlier one is referred to as over 400 pages. AM I confusing the two.

HOw the media- after reading one simple email interaction when AR's, bump stocks , the city of LV is mentioned , sales, inventory size regarding machine gun sales is pretty concise and clear. They were running guns not a stretch!

Just the opposite -- clearly stated! The money transfers in increments makes it far more likely to be a purchase of some entity as opposed to honey I am suicidal here is some money.

Do suicidal people leave loved ones money in spurts - no. Do buyers of some product do so -- sure . Deals change.

WIth all this new info, her fleeing the Philippines and rushing into the FBI arms (well wheelchairs) has different nuance.

In addition, finding out for the first time that Jesus was shot in the calf , adds to the total reality that they had just been keeping stuff close to the vest . They played his whole story different. I sure felt as if he was shot somewhere else - might just be me tho.

What is so frustrating is how stupid the stuff they have been throwing out there all along.

Mini Clinics do flu shots. FOr kicks and giggles call one and tell you are on your way in -- you were shot a couple of days ago - and see what they tell you!!

In the last 24 hours much of the Jesus stuff makes more sense. He had to do the second half of Paddocks run to Mexico cause Paddocks brains were on the floor at the MB

That causes logistic problems. Having to replace Paddock and a vehicle. It also explains Jesus sudden family yearning craving in a rental car as opposed to his vet.

The house being broken into also comes into much clearer light. Whatever went on there ( Yeah right people break into a mass shooters house several days later, to take a look around and leave without taking anything also fits nicely into the stupid category!)

Paddocks dead. They needed something from his house for the run to Mexico now having to be completed by Campos.

In that atf report I linked (interesting stuff) Campos timings were the same in terms of duration as it relates specifically to gun running run down there.

You will find that Paddock had been doing runs like that in the past. Its coming together. Explains mystery Phoenix visit and my notions that airlines don't like to board folks with machine guns and bomb making materials -- just a hunch ha!!!

A Sheriff making a declarative statement on worldwide tv that miss marilou will not be arrested before an investigation is done screams witness protection and nothing else.

In fact non of our primary cast have been seen since. Poof!

People in Omars life were in the news for ages.

People in Eliot's life were in the news for months

people in the planned parenthood thing were in the news for month

The fort lauderdale shooter history was in the news for month

the boston bombers -- good lord!

A four minute chat with Ellen and poof!

If they are gonna reduce public craving for info why not toss in a a bit of CCTV to add to the release. Choices are being made . By someone. My vote FBI .

Janet Air can fascinator making the three primary players vanish of the face of the earth!

We would be remiss , in light of new developments, not refresh our memories with this little gem:

Las Vegas shooter was a 'reclusive weirdo' who kept his guns stashed in a refrigerator-sized safe and vanished suddenly in August, say his former neighbors at his Reno home.


Lots of stuff starts to click. Last sale in 2010. The Atf gun running stuff was in 2012. The safe vanished from the garage around then.

Think busted for gun running and turning around that time frame

Both Paddock and Danley disappeared from the home within a couple of weeks in August, Page said.

Busted??

then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.


'Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house. She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.
'After a few days of packing she too pulled out of the driveway and was never seen again.


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just ramblings!
 
  • #416
It is wildly important and telling imo.

I did not know till yesterday pics it is a deadbolt lock on the inside.

They report his body in the big room

The place is rigged with cameras - he obviously does not want to be going out in the hallway !

The only logical answer is there was more than one person involved.

If it were not this case , I do not , for whatever reason why the American public wants to buy all the loopholes in this - would conclude that other people were in the adjoining room and let them selves out through that rooms front door .

Does anyone know if the laptop on the cart in the smaller room is the one with the alleged missing hard drive.

In fact, it would be rather for easy for campus to use his master key , get whatever he needed for urgent drive to Mexico to satisfy his instant compulsion to visit his family

Up until yesterday I thought it was it a knob type lock -- a deadbolt = others involved.

Just common sense.

There would be nor reason , if alone , for Paddock to lock the door go out in the hallway and come back in -- serves no person.

However other people in the adjoining room would want to increase their security from LE by locking that door.

It is so confusing to me how the media seems to have bought this notion that some madman believes he needs 24 machine guns to commit a mass shooting.

WIth the release of the report it becomes even more ludicrous.

What suicidal madman is making driving hauls , schelping up hundreds of pounds of stuff for days while having only two hands - with two hands only one has no need for 24 machine guns to kill people .

Since I found out about all about gun runners and Mexico role in that operation it becomes even easier to come to a logical conclusion -- he was running guns wither for money or as an informant with AFT.


It also aligns with shocking news that a grand jury is in process for a federal situation.

That IMO means arms, drugs or trafficking.

I think stuff is gonna break soon -- the real reason for the last 4 days was they had to set up the world for impending angle as it relates to mystery grand jury.

THey dont convene GJ unless they are pretty confident it will move on.

Lombardo had to protect his earned distrust by most.

There setting up a tale --to cover whatever operations were going on

Not sure if I remember correctly but I think the day the brother supposedly had child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on his computer was the same day as they decided to let the world know that supposedly a hard drive was missing.

There is nothing going on here!! Then as the other case is getting ready to go public -- houndreds of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on SP computer is released to the public. Humm

What is the first thing a forensic computer does ? Removes the hard drive.

The last couple of days stinks up stuff more than the smell of bullsh@@ since Oct 2.

WIth the grand jury stuff I don't think they will be able to keep the BS going. YEH !

Obviously, for Lombardo to reveal a grand jury in process, in a major news conference, regarding Los Vegas shooting, clearly indicates there is a correlation between the two!!

It was also interesting that this is the first time ever our creepy FBI guys was not around. THey are trying to back the FBI away, in the public mind , of the shooting.

When is the last time in history that the FBI takes the back seat in major stuff like this.

Never.

In addition to put a 5 member agency who investigates corruption in the biggest mass shooting is like asking a dentist to perform a heart transplant.

His excuse was manpower. Whatever, then late last night I discovered that dept consists of 5 people. What a manpower reducer 5 cops that have no experience in this stuff.

And there was a whole political dance going on with this angle. I cant remember her name , tho , to provide ya all with that bunch of nonsense!!

I also found it laughable that he reports the behavioral analysis unit out of Reston is STILL working on it.

Another lie. The person they are profiling is in an urn somewhere. Behavioral profiling does not take 5 months on a dead person.



What data they have , as it relates to this angle is in. In reality, they are used to quickly identify and create profiles to help LE catch bad people.

That is their mandate. That is what they do. people who are alive continue to "behave". People who are ashes in a safe do not.

Just silly stuff again IMO.

I am somewhat confused tho. Last night it seems as if there was several info dumbs in the last week.

One is referred to as 300 some pages and an earlier one is referred to as over 400 pages. AM I confusing the two.

HOw the media- after reading one simple email interaction when AR's, bump stocks , the city of LV is mentioned , sales, inventory size regarding machine gun sales is pretty concise and clear. They were running guns not a stretch!

Just the opposite -- clearly stated! The money transfers in increments makes it far more likely to be a purchase of some entity as opposed to honey I am suicidal here is some money.

Do suicidal people leave loved ones money in spurts - no. Do buyers of some product do so -- sure . Deals change.

WIth all this new info, her fleeing the Philippines and rushing into the FBI arms (well wheelchairs) has different nuance.

In addition, finding out for the first time that Jesus was shot in the calf , adds to the total reality that they had just been keeping stuff close to the vest . They played his whole story different. I sure felt as if he was shot somewhere else - might just be me tho.

What is so frustrating is how stupid the stuff they have been throwing out there all along.

Mini Clinics do flu shots. FOr kicks and giggles call one and tell you are on your way in -- you were shot a couple of days ago - and see what they tell you!!

In the last 24 hours much of the Jesus stuff makes more sense. He had to do the second half of Paddocks run to Mexico cause Paddocks brains were on the floor at the MB

That causes logistic problems. Having to replace Paddock and a vehicle. It also explains Jesus sudden family yearning craving in a rental car as opposed to his vet.

The house being broken into also comes into much clearer light. Whatever went on there ( Yeah right people break into a mass shooters house several days later, to take a look around and leave without taking anything also fits nicely into the stupid category!)

Paddocks dead. They needed something from his house for the run to Mexico now having to be completed by Campos.

In that atf report I linked (interesting stuff) Campos timings were the same in terms of duration as it relates specifically to gun running run down there.

You will find that Paddock had been doing runs like that in the past. Its coming together. Explains mystery Phoenix visit and my notions that airlines don't like to board folks with machine guns and bomb making materials -- just a hunch ha!!!

A Sheriff making a declarative statement on worldwide tv that miss marilou will not be arrested before an investigation is done screams witness protection and nothing else.
Two dumps.
1,the warrants- with 10 pages withheld as they are supposedly to do with the second person connected with an aspect of this shooting though it is not thought to be in relation to the actual shooting. It is thought to possibly be in reference to the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
2, the report. Report is 80 pages. Its linked here..
Those are the two latest and first in several months.
 
  • #417
I'm not thinking it did but to be sure would need to check date of brother's indictment for child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.. it would not necessarily have been mentioned either because that investigation is ongoing.
He was planning this for a year or more. This is a copy paste from page 47 of the report
The following websites were accessed using an IE private browser: http://lineup.lifeisbeautiful.com/ https://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl https://lifeisbeautiful.com/ticket/ http://search.topvegascondos.com/i/the-ogden-downtown-las-vegas-condos-forrent https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#...ta+monica+beach+get&spf=1495082236761 https://www.vividseats.com/blog/category/all-concerts/ https://www.vividseats.com/blog/fenway-park-concerts-and-seating https://www.vividseats.com/blog/the-14-best-outdoor-concert-venues-in-the-us http://tsminteractive.com/what-are-the-most-crowded-beaches-in-america/ https://www.yelp.com/biz/santa-monica-state-beach-santa-monica https://www.vividseats.com/blog/memorial-day-weekend-2017.htmlThe following websites were accessed using Internet Explorer: www.grantparkmusicfestival.com/ 05-18-17 0419 hours www.ticketmaster.com/ 05-18-17 at 0427 hours ticketmaster.com/ 05-18-17 at 0431 hours www.sandiego.org/ 05-18-17 at 0505 hours sandiego.org/ 05-18-17 at 0505 hours www.vividseats.com/ 05-18-17 at 0540 hours www.lasvegascondoexperts.com/ 09-04-17 at 2212 hours lasvegashighrisetour.com/ 09-04-17 at 2213 hours www.thehighrisegroup.com/ 09-04-17 at 2214 hours

Evidence Item Dell Laptop Computer Recovered in Room 32-135Computer forensic analysis of a Dell laptop Model E5570 revealed numerous internet searchesfor open air venues. Additionally, several hundred images of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 were located onthe computer’s hard drive. The investigation into the source of these images is ongoing. Thefollowing internet searches from this laptop are indicated below:Google Search Queries How tall is Mandalay Bay/ Unknown date NV gun shows/ 09-02-17 & 09-30-17 Life is Beautiful 2017/ 09-20-2017 Excalibur Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 Las Vegas Academy of the Arts Performing Arts Center/ 09-23-17 Fremont Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 El Cortez Hotel & Casino/ 09-23-17 Family Courts & Services Center/ 09-23-17 Gary Reese Freedom Park/ 09-23-17 https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf
I just copy pasted a small part of it.
He had this plan.
He researched it thoroughly before deciding on a venue..

The Discovery children's museum was searched by him sept 23 and again sept 26.
I wonder why?

My instinct says he would have had very little to do with the brother convicted for the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬.. several hundreds of images is a lot tho..
could be another 60 days before feds tie that down, if not longer..

We have to remember that we are being told stuff by secret keepers.

A authentic way to report this would be :

On the harddrive the following searches were located,


NOT

Paddock searched for .....................

we have no idea who pushed the keys on the laptop -- and are making inferences.

Inferences are not facts. Nor proof.

has anyone seen any proof of him doing anything. We have not. If he were alive thus far he could not be prosecuted for any of this.

Where is proof that he was alone

that he broke the windows

the only thing they alledge but have not shown the public is he bought up bags of merchandise,

A murderer does not that make. It makes it a person who bought up a lot of bags - if the videos are accurate.

So here is what know

windows broken

lots of people shot and hurt

dead body in a hotel room

a couple hundred of casings in room

a hose was there

interior door mysteriously locked by a ghost on the other side

They would not even try to bring charges -- its hearsay -- courts need eveidence

where is the evidence that he shot people

where is the evidence that he was the only one shooting people

I think the hard drive was stolen by the others in the room who were shopping for machine guns because that hard drive had images of them entering the room and or talking arms purchasing.

Narcs do tend to get murdered!
 
  • #418
These are emails from SPs accounts? Sounds like he’s into gun sales, no ?


I think these folks have run with bad people for some time. Human trafficking maybe drugs gun running etcetc

got busted and became informants for ATF -- got discovered and they killed him and decided to kill Americans
 
  • #419
Ok, I’m way behind, haven’t had time to read all the warrants or reports in full, don’t know that I will. At this point I have questions though.....

The child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 thing has my antenna up... what do you guys think? Is it legit?

Was SP being investigated for that after he knew his brother for the same thing? And he really was involved as well, so he became really paranoid, possibly he had some mental health issues already? And he lost it and decided to strike back before he got taken down?

Or, was the CP planted on his computer. Four lap tops? Why? It just seems rather strange this popped up now, was it a matter of convenience , an easy way for LE to paint SP in a more negative light and deflect from what really happened? As in anyone else being involved? IDK, something seems off to me. JMO

totally agree oppositional research if you will plant stuff diversion

look what has happened in the past three child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is now in mix

amazing how two brothers who have had nothing to do with one another for decades end up allegedly having child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on their computers

it is a distraction -- well see if the fbi case involves guns
human trafficking
drugs
🤬🤬🤬🤬
terrorism

if the fbi thing is related to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 then I will believe it

right now I stand -- diversion stuff -- muddy everything up
 
  • #420
We have to remember that we are being told stuff by secret keepers.

A authentic way to report this would be :

On the harddrive the following searches were located,


NOT

Paddock searched for .....................

we have no idea who pushed the keys on the laptop -- and are making inferences.

Inferences are not facts. Nor proof.

has anyone seen any proof of him doing anything. We have not. If he were alive thus far he could not be prosecuted for any of this.

Where is proof that he was alone

that he broke the windows

the only thing they alledge but have not shown the public is he bought up bags of merchandise,

A murderer does not that make. It makes it a person who bought up a lot of bags - if the videos are accurate.

So here is what know

windows broken

lots of people shot and hurt

dead body in a hotel room

a couple hundred of casings in room

a hose was there

interior door mysteriously locked by a ghost on the other side

They would not even try to bring charges -- its hearsay -- courts need eveidence

where is the evidence that he shot people

where is the evidence that he was the only one shooting people

I think the hard drive was stolen by the others in the room who were shopping for machine guns because that hard drive had images of them entering the room and or talking arms purchasing.

Narcs do tend to get murdered!
what guns were taken?
what narcs got murdered?
I think the report is credible but incomplete.

If you read the report about his September trips, his antics with baggage, moving from hotel to hotel to home, back to hotel like a robot you will see that if the report is accurate in relation to these movements that not only was he physically capable of doing what he did, it is highly likely he did it.
I believe he did it. I believe he acted alone.
Because, seriously, even if he was dealing in elephants it makes no difference to the events of the night of October 1st or his part in it.
Have you read the report on the door openings and closures in those rooms on that night and can you say definitively that the door leading to the second suite was not monitored?

My problem with that door is not the locking system, it is that in the images contained in the report, it appears not to have been damaged though was forcefully opened.

Remember his stash of powder was in his own car in the valet garage.
I don't know why it was there and not within his line of sight from one of the hotel windows when he could possibly have lit it ..

Its fine to ask questions but there is no evidence that anybody else helped him now.
Yes, its possible the entire report is a lie, but my gut says it's not.
 
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