NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

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  • #481
I appreciate your view and observations. I wish I could articulate my perspective as well as you have here. It is true that there is much that we don’t know, as well as what you mentioned “there is no evidence of...”.

Let’s think about the stuff we do know, and the stuff we should know:

We know the timeline is a heaping mess and we should know the real reason for that because it is so basic to interpret. NO ONE HAS EVEN GOTTEN CLOSE TO EXPLAINING THAT, NO INTELLIGENT ATTEMPT TO.

We know that there are multiple claims of Campos being injured. We don’t know the extent of his injuries: calf, thigh, bullet or shrapnel...
We know he made the first call, don’t know by which method: cell, radio, house phone. I don’t want to keep going on him because there are so many unknowns pertaining to him.

Taking ‘just these 2’ that I mention ‘Campos and timeline’ because these are key starting indicators. It’s very difficult for me to navigate the storyline past this. Like you would going to a movie or reading a book.

Thus far my theory is somewhere in the area of informant-sting gone wrong. He worked for the CIA, loads of info and knowledge gained while there. I don’t know the extent of mafia internal affairs between these: LE-FBI-MB. Though there is enough cover up that is obvious to me that this isn’t as it should be. WE DONT HAVE A TIMELINE, that is one example of that.

The real deal tho is we know nothing/


Nothing,

What do we know?

We know a male body was found in a hotel room (now cremated) that had a lot of arms in it .


We know a lot of people died and got injured that night .

That pretty well sums it up.

What we do know:

He lies. His timeline lie

Explaining where Campos was lie for ages

Where campos was shot lie for ages

number of shots through door lie

claiming that it was over when there wre trained LE and EMS for hours reporting lots of stuff.

MGM has money. MGM intense stance in this is about a lot more than money/

They were hosting an operation that is really secret -- they have deep pockets and tons of attorneys. Everyone can sue == win -- get nothing -- they drag it on for years.

They move it from one column to another write it off if it ever gets to a payoff

This is cooperate America - the notion that MGM cares so much about some rent a cop that they hire ex FBI agents to provide him security for a month is absurd.

We do know they let him out of the coutnry for some holiday time.

We know (via video) that FBI agents were slamming evidence into the ground and paving over it

We know from ATC tapes that active shooters were on airport property.

We know helicopter traffic that night was bizarre

We know the coroner's office was placed on lockdown for weeks

We know LV has a rich corruption history

We know Lombardos dept is under FBI investigation and has been for some time


We know they gave a comedian the only interview/

We know that Lombardo is an elected official

We hear for weeks that there are no cameras on the floors and suddenly a report comes out with detailed outline of his movement of the floors

We can see with our own eyes that things were moved in the pics -- debris is under things



We know they lied about initial checkin date

We know two windows were broken out,

We know he had explosives terrorists
are fond of

We know he bought and sold guns

We know (via video ) that Marylou was rushed away in a wheelchair never to be seen again

same for the other two

we know now the FBI is trying to get away from the story ( the presser)

We know that the agency providing Campus detail is owned by a retired LVMPD cop of 20 years and the guy at the door is retired FBI

We know the cornerier is a secret person trying to keep stuff secret for some reason.

We know the media, for some reason vanished and has remained gone

pretty much it!!
 
  • #482
I haven't seen anyone mention Campos saying that he had been shot with a BB gun. How does that make any sense? Supposedly Paddock fired 200 rounds down the hallway, and Campos thought it sounded like a BB gun? How did this guy get hired as a security guard if he is that clueless?

Really!!! My fav was our engineer saying he went to the basement to keep guests from coming up in the elevators

that is something a hotel employee would never say -- they don't have basements in LV and hotels call places guests enter a lobby -- not a basement!!

He is from the NOrth and works for a govt agency!! Engineer my tushie put some
shades on him and ya got govt agent!!

BB gun --- is funny ---

geez talk about unhappy arms purchasers--

something went very wrong
 
  • #483
  • #484
Which is it? Fire-smoke-cell-radio-house phone....


Ha this is what happens when you have to write a screenplay on the fly!!

what really was surprising that all these months there was never a mention of the second cart inside the room!!

Just in terms of human interest that would be an interesting angle -- second cart set up with laptop on it -- never heard a word about that

come on that is James Bond eee from the 70's!!
 
  • #485
10:06 was the busiest minute Las Vegas has ever seen. I guess "New York Minute" has now been shown up by the "Las Vegas Minute".


Thats funny!!
 
  • #486
Clueless... and yet he is the one who began the report? I could do an entire investigation on just him. I believe he is gone... and I don’t believe the real Campos was on ELLEN. Nothing can convince me otherwise to date.

he did act very odd, very very uncomfortable, I may agree with you something was up , I saw a reporter at his house and no one answered the door. He has since vanished I think that is also very odd, and a trip to Mexico right after all of this drama and leg injuries? Bizarre, also noting MGM owns the Ellen show I think double weird. I wish someone would hurry up and unravel this nonsense cause I am getting frustrated geesh ;-/
 
  • #487
TY for the link. After hearing the interview and knowing that Doug Poppa`s opinion is that SP was the only person in that room still does NOT explain the other reports including scanner feeds as well as eye witness accounts that there were more shooters.

I`ve yet to hear what type of bullet that is the the result of each of the 58 deaths. I don`t anticipate those details ever being published for the public. However, does the ammunition match that of what SP had in his posession?

The Sheriff`s report, while detailed, reminds me of watching Pulp Fiction. The flash back to the Campos narrative then flash forward to SP`s movements and vice versa is very difficult to follow. That may be how an investigation report is written however I personally found it confusing.

Also, in the Sheriff`s press release this statement caught my attention

While staying at The Ogden, Paddock exhibited behavior which was similar to his time spent at Mandalay Bay. Paddock left for long periods of time, returning to Mesquite, Nevada, flying to Reno, Nevada and traveling to Arizona.

Where are the additional details about his activities in Reno and Arizona?

In the same report under the heading `Witness Interviews` more details about Campos and the LVMPD placement is documented. No mention of actual interviews, unless I overlooked it.

MOO

Tried to find again -- they all were not autopsied sad to say

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  • #488
he did act very odd, very very uncomfortable, I may agree with you something was up , I saw a reporter at his house and no one answered the door. He has since vanished I think that is also very odd, and a trip to Mexico right after all of this drama and leg injuries? Bizarre, also noting MGM owns the Ellen show I think double weird. I wish someone would hurry up and unravel this nonsense cause I am getting frustrated geesh ;-/


You are not alone --- at least come up with some sh@@ that is credible -- there narrative is insulting in how stupid they think many are


jeezzzzzzzzz
 
  • #489
Me either they both were agents of some kind

our engineer is so three letter agency

i have posted his only interview outsoide of of Ellen

he works for the govt

after learning about mexico stuff and gun trafficking I think the three letter agency is ATf!!

The more I play I think he was busted for human trafficking and gun running and had to become an informant and had been one for some time

we cant forget the importance of him having two planes -- that for some reason he just quit flying

getting busted would mean you had better not have a license to fly!!

Thanks Cariis, I forgot about ATF.
I agree, he had to become an informant. He possibly had enough of being at their mercy and was concocting a major tell-all event to expose them. Someone ratted him out. And as you said, he knew who was on the other side of the door.
 
  • #490
Thanks Cariis, I forgot about ATF.
I agree, he had to become an informant. He possibly had enough of being at their mercy and was concocting a major tell-all event to expose them. Someone ratted him out. And as you said, he knew who was on the other side of the door.

I think this is akin to like Iran Contra in that what this whole operation was like illegal in terms of usa policy
 
  • #491
I have pondered if Campos was in the room at some point -- the hard drive and the trip to Mexico

it sure is kinda nice that he only got a boo boo from machine gun fire speculating however

someone mentioned they saw bullet holes in the hallway -- anyone know where those pics are

have not seen em and would love to

am also glad we all have been refreshed as it relates to him carrying on about 200 shots being fired which always bugged me since the leaked pics!

leaked on purpose opppsssssss
 
  • #492
Does anyone live close enough to see if Campos is still on the schedule? To see who lives at that abode? To meet the employee that started a Gofund me for him? To see which agency office location he was licensed by? Check out the engineers schedule? The hard copy border patrol...the half that is missing?

I’m serious if I lived close enough I would be checking around.

would be so neat huh!! I would be

scared
 
  • #493
I have pondered if Campos was in the room at some point -- the hard drive and the trip to Mexico

it sure is kinda nice that he only got a boo boo from machine gun fire speculating however

someone mentioned they saw bullet holes in the hallway -- anyone know where those pics are

have not seen em and would love to

am also glad we all have been refreshed as it relates to him carrying on about 200 shots being fired which always bugged me since the leaked pics!

leaked on purpose opppsssssss

I noticed in one of the pics that you posted about the written note where he is laying right beside it, his leg is under the erected tripod with the gun. How did he fall flat like a roach to clear that narrow crevice?

In another, 6-7 or 8 there is a large guy with a green sweater on that is right near him but the frame is shot without him being visible. Sorry haven’t been able to get these pics to attach.
 
  • #494


Sheriff Joe Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department said the unusual step to make the information public early was warranted because of the unique situation, and the practice would not become normal procedure.
“AND THE PRACTICE WOULD NOT BECOME NORMAL PROCEDURE”???

Lombardo said he expects the final report to be released BEFORE THE END of 2018. AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS??
 
  • #495
Sheriff Joe Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department said the unusual step to make the information public early was warranted because of the unique situation, and the practice would not become normal procedure.
“AND THE PRACTICE WOULD NOT BECOME NORMAL PROCEDURE”???

Lombardo said he expects the final report to be released BEFORE THE END of 2018. AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS??

if we think about the report said nothing

really

in pulse we knew what Omar did prior in a couple of days

we knew about his computer usage in a couple of days

we knew about the crime scene in a couple of days

etc etc

politics!!
 
  • #496
I noticed in one of the pics that you posted about the written note where he is laying right beside it, his leg is under the erected tripod with the gun. How did he fall flat like a roach to clear that narrow crevice?

In another, 6-7 or 8 there is a large guy with a green sweater on that is right near him but the frame is shot without him being visible. Sorry haven&#8217;t been able to get these pics to attach.

what is really amazing about some of the pics is pay attn to the wood debris from the breaches!!!!!

There on top --- the only thing that can mean is stuff was moved.

Its physics!! gravity that kind of thing ha!

Saw dust cant crawl under a heavy gun!!!

They owned they moved him -- that is not ok !!!

They described that gun on his leg as being under him when the entered.

The way that pic was released clearly indicates that were efforts to make certain things look a certain way

i would think it would take a couple of tries !! to get a machine gun to stand up like that on a dead dudes leg !!

It was so phony from the get go !!

All the drama about him being a genius and doing all this tragtiroy stuff which ended up being a couple of little numbers

When i was watching the trajectory guys the calculations ( conclusions were more than one shooter) were far more involved!!

his apparently were not all the good -- he missed the huge tanks a bunch of times yet managed not to accidently hit anything above ground -- just makes no sense!!

Visualize snipers like 15 feet up --- you could then not hit anything above ground -- not from the 32 floor !!


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a real one looks like !!

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what a joke !!!

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They got it all blurry by doing echos -- echos cant happen before the source!!

The taxi driver video clearly indicates there was someone firing close to her -- echos get weaker not louder!!!
 
  • #497
  • #498
imo he was killed -- this was a big big operation

that obviously went wrong !!!
Yep I agree. A guy with a hose and a mask sounds like he expected tear gas. If he wanted to kill himself why would he care? I think he was killed MOO

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  • #499
He seems to enjoy the spotlight IMO it would not surprise me in the least if we hear about Eric again in the future

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Yes, pretty certain he will get into some drama. Self inflicted or not.

Is the official time of pronounced death in the coroners report?
 
  • #500
At the end of the day what remains most stunning is the continued belief system that his room was loaded with guns to commit a mass shooting when as reported there is a flat out email outlining : great stock, location of showroom, (LV!) discussing the type of guns all over the room. and boasting that there were many bump stocks available for purchase!!

what else does one need!

it was an arms ad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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