NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[FindHG]

Here is the latest interview with Doug Poppa.

https://art19.com/shows/pat-campbell-podcast/episodes/981e48b5-d7ed-402c-a056-81036622f7d6

Thank you, Tricia for this update with Doug Poppa, and for all you do. Still catching up.

 

[CARIIS]

he was fully clothed in all the leaked photos that I saw, including the liveleak photos which were subsequently removed. And I saw another totally different photograph of a close up of paddocks face post mortem. I described it here in an early thread as accurately as I could remember it. Only one other person had seen the same image which could not be found afterwards.
It was remarkable only in that he had a strange kind of peaceful look in his eye or eyes.. one or two of which was open a bit.. I stared at it for a long time. It came in on Twitter around the same time the other photos were released. I was unable to verify it because I wrongly assumed the photos were all fake, until lE confirmed they were valid, but did not address each photo specifically.
There was a stain on his sweatshirt. sheriff Lombardo confirmed it was blood on the latest presser.
I think it's possible he lay down before killing himself, if he killed himself.

I do not want to be gross. There was a video on the field as well. It was the same experiance as you described.

All of them had there eyes open looked like they were star gazing while at the same time could tell it meant that life stopped instantly.

I stopped it and stared also it was unreal.

In movies etc we have images of dead as eye closed.

The same thing happened with one Malaysian air crashed.

I found incredible video , it was the same thing. People in seats eyes open , some with arms in a certain position, legs etc etc -- all eyes open frozen in time -- in very weird positions -

 

[CARIIS]

does this include big mouth EP as well?

I am afraid so !!! Ha!

Noone in the gang has any sort of JOB!! Ever!

 

[CARIIS]

HE had cameras in the hallway. Here's a list from 2013 (snipped at Mandalay Bay), there are no cameras.

The 4 LV Strip hotels with cameras in hallways
Oct 24, 2013, 3:57 PM
FYI. A lot of people think there are security cameras everywhere in Las Vegas. There aren't. From an AP article written by Hannah Dreier:

There are only four major Las Vegas Strip hotels that monitor the hotel halls above the gambling floor:

MGM Grand

Planet Hollywood

Tropicana

Caesars Palace (not all towers)

These 23 major Las Vegas Strip hotels have no surveillance cameras in hotel hallways or elevator landings, an AP investigation found:

Aria

Ballys

Bellagio

Circus Circus

Cosmopolitan

Encore

Excalibur

Flamingo

Harrahs

Luxor

Mandalay Bay

Exactly-- they should have been able to clear up the 10 days of timeline nonsense by that in and of itself

he still maintains some confusion ha

I think the hard drive was stolen cause the purchasers ( or campos ) were on it !!

A hard drive is "missing" yet they leave child pics on another one -- silly silly : For some reason I dont get pedaphilia -- I get trafficking .

In Philippines

 

[watergirl62]

I dont think people are saying anything about aliens!!

We are absorbing the way the tale went down.

If we are not talking about an much bigger icebigger iceburg under the water than we are talking about gross incompetence.

Public officials are not allowed to make a declarative statement I am not talking any more and then dont talk anymore

That is what they all did.

People keep secrets for reason.

We dont need a "report" we need common sense.

To be unable to hear and see things that have been recorded and shared in infamy -- that is CT

Go to YT - watch some videos with ears and eyes -- what has been recorded does not match up with their stories.

At some level it is that simple!

It was all captured all cell phones -- just watch them -- the report is IMO a bunch of contradictions.

40 years ago this may have been the narrative -- with cell phones -- our realities have changed

Cant really tell if that is , at the end of the end of the day good or bad, they lie and get away with it anyhow -- but at least we are able to see and hear reality.

One question -- why did the crowd start fleeing from the back for a full 18 seconds before the first volley?

You can hear single pop pop during that behavior -- help me with that. Sadly we also know what guns sound like nowadays -- the pop pops before the first main volley is gunfire-- obviously from the back

TIA

I would like Aliens for 500 please.

 

[CARIIS]

He is saying it doesn’t make one iota of sense that a man shot intraorally would have an obvious pool of blood on his chest with no connecting blood droplets or stains between the chest wound and the mouth.

Just another thing that doesn’t make sense.

Man I wish I could have said it as consise as you did!

Exactly.

what I was trying to say!!

that stuff called gravity

 

[CARIIS]

I would like Aliens for 500 please.

I am sorry all we have left is Aliens for a 1000!!

 

[Gooddeeds]

where lies the burden of proof for any of that?
the internet is currently over run with conspiracy theories, none of which pan out and none of which can be taken seriously.

The only serious mega event that occurred was that a crazy person killed 58 people and changed hundreds of lives, perhaps permanently.

The madman aspect with a ess than mega gun collection and with a collection of child which he had either bought or sold is not the mega event.
The casualties are.
If they are following this, what are they seeing that can help them?

There is a Report we can study and critique.
And read.
There is no factual information for anything else.

I’m speaking as though I were wounded, or had a family member who lost their life that evening. From that angle there is zero tolerance for reports without ‘key’ and basic info. Because it doesn’t restore hope for the suffering when it feels like mind games, cover ups and...to tag on “people just need to forget about it”.

Regardless of Lombardos scruples making it worse for reporting, that’s no excuse. He and all involved should be accountable to the public for what their individual responsibilities are. Each 3 letter entity and MB should be able to respond truthfully on the missing timeline. They should want to make that clear for obvious reasons. A report without that is negligent on behalf of the victims.

I said this before, if I were in the hospital expecting to see the first televised interview with the security guard ELLEN wouldn’t cut it. She is wonderful at what she does, it has nothing to do with her personally. Simply, it was the wrong place and the wrong time.

 

[CARIIS]

Yup. The 20+ machine guns is what really gives it all away. It is not necessary to his alleged mission and in fact it could be so risky as to be detrimental to his well planned(according to Lombardo) mission.

It is a crock. And my common sense and intuition will not allow me to get past it. Pardon me for being keenly aware of these things.

What is insane is they are getting away with it for now

its incredible -- and I can be very illogical !!!!!!!!!!!

I have pondered the "need" for the narrative to be true despite the screaming insanity of the whole thing.

I also find it confusing in this day and age to really not believe in corrupt govt and the potency of greed and money

Through in LV sleazy past and it becomes more and more bewildering.

We have thousands of eyewitnesses and their cell phones -- it makes sense on like missing persons cases --there are hours of nothing but in this tragedy their is eyewitness video --- its incredible

I do think this is coming from a therapist standpoint. The Hard Rock Cafe lady was really compelling-- our society is re victimizing all the people who were there and know there was more than one shooter.

It is identical to telling a rape victim he/she was not really raped. It really wounds people - for life-


This was not only a visual thing -- with the amount of bullets being shot all over the place this has a whole bunch of other sensory input that gives folks that were there the knowledge that there were more than one - bullets speeding past - seeing and hearing bullets impact from directions that in an instance let one know it came from a different direction. Volume = proximity -- the taxi driver video is unreal. The first time I saw it it "booed" me I jumped the other round was so loud compared to what had been going on . It was obviously right over her head-- which makes sense on the roof of the valet at MB

If you get the long one check out her rear view mirror.........



if anyone can find the cowboy one running around "saving people( the whole one) would you send it to me

I will never forget it at the end he is asking a guy dressed like a cop to help him (there are bullets blazing) and the guy flat out says to him I am not getting up get away from me.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Anyone know if he glued the pink flowers on or were the topiarys purchased that way?

 

[mpnola]

he was fully clothed in all the leaked photos that I saw, including the liveleak photos which were subsequently removed. And I saw another totally different photograph of a close up of paddocks face post mortem. I described it here in an early thread as accurately as I could remember it. Only one other person had seen the same image which could not be found afterwards.
It was remarkable only in that he had a strange kind of peaceful look in his eye or eyes.. one or two of which was open a bit.. I stared at it for a long time. It came in on Twitter around the same time the other photos were released. I was unable to verify it because I wrongly assumed the photos were all fake, until lE confirmed they were valid, but did not address each photo specifically.
There was a stain on his sweatshirt. sheriff Lombardo confirmed it was blood on the latest presser.
I think it's possible he lay down before killing himself, if he killed himself.

I agree. I definitely did not see a chest wound. I think things that aren't true are beginning to take root as fact. When they are not.

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[canadiangirl]

I agree. I definitely did not see a chest wound. I think things that aren't true are beginning to take root as fact. When they are not.

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There is definitely a stain of some sort on his shirt if you look at the pics. What that is, who knows. It could be left over room service but it's there. And it could be a blood stain. Actually didn't someone just post Lombardo confirmed it was blood?

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[CoolJ]

I agree. I definitely did not see a chest wound. I think things that aren't true are beginning to take root as fact. When they are not.

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I wasn’t saying there was a chest wound as fact. I am saying there looked to be a blood stain on his chest in a leaked photo. It is an oddity. I’m not just going to ignore it. I factor it in with all of the other oddities. At a certain point you start to look a little closer at things and in a new light. That’s how it works for me anyway.

 

[kittythehare]

I’m speaking as though I were wounded, or had a family member who lost their life that evening. From that angle there is zero tolerance for reports without ‘key’ and basic info. Because it doesn’t restore hope for the suffering when it feels like mind games, cover ups and...to tag on “people just need to forget about it”.

Regardless of Lombardos scruples making it worse for reporting, that’s no excuse. He and all involved should be accountable to the public for what their individual responsibilities are. Each 3 letter entity and MB should be able to respond truthfully on the missing timeline. They should want to make that clear for obvious reasons. A report without that is negligent on behalf of the victims.

I said this before, if I were in the hospital expecting to see the first televised interview with the security guard ELLEN wouldn’t cut it. She is wonderful at what she does, it has nothing to do with her personally. Simply, it was the wrong place and the wrong time.

It was an iNTERIM report, not a complete report.
Ellen has been discussed so many times here that i'm beginning to thing she was Paddock's assistant.
She was not.
There is no proof linking Campos to any crime.
If it is not proof it is speculation.
I can speculate alone in my head. It helps nobody.
we need to work with what we have.
Nobody is happy about the balls up of info and misinfo.
If we work with what we know to be real and try reaching some consensus, then we will know what to do next..

The hotel is on the run- let's try to find out why?
Now , if its a thing they are aliens running a high tech business on body parts, unless it can be tracked directly to Paddock, it wont help the victims.
-health and Safety regulations
-major disaster plan
-insurance issues
-role of promoter
-Initial 911 call time
-exit clearance maintenance
etc etc etc.
were there any significant deviations?
Did they lead to death?
When Tricia interviewed lawyer Lombardo, she stated she looks at all evidence sent to her offices and welcomes it.
Maybe we can help people like the girl in the video below by sleuthing?

 

[kittythehare]

There is definitely a stain of some sort on his shirt if you look at the pics. What that is, who knows. It could be left over room service but it's there. And it could be a blood stain. Actually didn't someone just post Lombardo confirmed it was blood?

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He said it in response to a question, as far as I recall towards the end of his most recent presser.

Blood, by the way has several kinds of movements.
Arterial blood spurts, venous blood flows.
It is quite possible that he shot himself while lying down and he hit arteries as well as veins.
either way the photo in the report is not clear enough to distinguish either way. The leaked photos and the alleged leak photos showed variances in position which suggested the body had been moved in the interval. Nothing suggested anything sinister about such a move. None of the photos were time stamped though I know there is a method of checking photos in this regard. Bellingcat lists useful resources for checking images video and text.

 

[Gooddeeds]

It was an iNTERIM report, not a complete report.
Ellen has been discussed so many times here that i'm beginning to thing she was Paddock's assistant.
She was not.
There is no proof linking Campos to any crime.
If it is not proof it is speculation.
I can speculate alone in my head. It helps nobody.
we need to work with what we have.
Nobody is happy about the balls up of info and misinfo.
If we work with what we know to be real and try reaching some consensus, then we will know what to do next..

The hotel is on the run- let's try to find out why?
Now , if its a thing they are aliens running a high tech business on body parts, unless it can be tracked directly to Paddock, it wont help the victims.
-health and Safety regulations
-major disaster plan
-insurance issues
-role of promoter
-Initial 911 call time
-exit clearance maintenance
etc etc etc.
were there any significant deviations?
Did they lead to death?
When Tricia interviewed lawyer Lombardo, she stated she looks at all evidence sent to her offices and welcomes it.
Maybe we can help people like the girl in the video below by sleuthing?

Interim report works for things still under investigation/not yet released. Not for the timeline & basics. It should have been in the first report.

I hear you, and I know each caveat may not have led to death but integrity matters.

 

[kittythehare]

Interim report works for things still under investigation/not yet released. Not for the timeline & basics. It should have been in the first report.

I hear you, and I know each caveat may not have led to death but integrity matters.

It absolutely should have been in the report.

The report should have started with the words
'At hour, min, second on the day and date LMPD received a report of etc'

He went to the trouble of addressing several of the conspiracy theories that most of us had discarded long ago, which was proof that he had been reading them.
If he had he could not have missed the intense debate regarding the precise time his dept was notified.

Definitely therein lies a very large rat.

 

[Tricia]

Thank you, Tricia for this update with Doug Poppa, and for all you do. Still catching up.

Thank you FindHG. Glad to see you )

 

[Gooddeeds]

It absolutely should have been in the report.

The report should have started with the words
'At hour, min, second on the day and date LMPD received a report of etc'

He went to the trouble of addressing several of the conspiracy theories that most of us had discarded long ago, which was proof that he had been reading them.
If he had he could not have missed the intense debate regarding the precise time his dept was notified.

Definitely therein lies a very large rat.

Let’s just hope for the best in that ‘whoever’ is investigating to get the ‘facts’, that this info will be preserved. I imagine a lot of things have been scrubbed but nonetheless should be traceable...if they can withstand the battle of big league money.

Before the 60Minute airing they should have also known by which method the starter call came through. Cell, house, radio...

It’s these starter type fact finding things that are clearly stated in the beginning of any type of reporting. It’s the law of gravity for lack of a better term.

 

[kittythehare]

Let’s just hope for the best in that ‘whoever’ is investigating to get the ‘facts’, that this info will be preserved. I imagine a lot of things have been scrubbed but nonetheless should be traceable...if they can withstand the battle of big league money.

Before the 60Minute airing they should have also known by which method the starter call came through. Cell, house, radio...

It’s these starter type fact finding things that are clearly stated in the beginning of any type of reporting. It’s the law of gravity for lack of a better term.

so, we go through it, page by page and make a list, like Cujenn did in the beginning.
From my own reading and rereadings I see different aspects with fresh eyes each time.

Its a bit of work but I really dont see any other way through.