GUILTY NV - Deborah Flores-Narvaez, 31, Las Vegas, 12 Dec 2010 - #1

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Hello all, just got caught up reading all the posts.
My :twocents: I believe the text message to Debbie's mother was a cryptic message saying basically, "if anything happens to me, Blu is the one." Seems she had to word it oddly so that if JG grabbed her phone (as it seems he is susceptible to doing!) and read through it maybe he would not get the meaning. That is why she told her mother to "keep it for her records."
Why these beautiful smart talented women hook up with these "playas" is beyond me. Just can't see the attraction to all the drama associated. It's like all sensible Master's degree intelligence goes poof when they get around them.
IMOHO there was no pregnancy. I believe that she just said that to get XBF's attention - men love to think their male prowess created a baby, and Debbie may have thought that would make him be with her.
To me this does not look good for Debbie. My gut feeling is that she is no longer with us. :(
I sincerely pray that I am wrong
 
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I have been following this case but have not read all pages here so forgive me if this has already been discussed... but have we discussed that the text message to Deborah's mother could have been written by Blu himself?

TIA
 
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I have been following this case but have not read all pages here so forgive me if this has already been discussed... but have we discussed that the text message to Deborah's mother could have been written by Blu himself?

TIA

It really seemed to have been done by Debbie.

Iirc, her mother asked her about it when she talked with her after she received the text.

IMO
 
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Yes, Chasing, that has been discussed and is a definite possibility! He may have written it to throw the blame off himself. Not too bright IMO.
 
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Agree with Ocean.
 
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Well here is my cents on the pregnancy, You have a dancer who in her mind had finally reached the pinnacle in her career that she had always dreamed of, so in my mind she either had an abortion to keep her career or there is a real possibility that she may not have been pregnant...I feel the Sister knows the answer but will never say how it ended...The fact that she did not even find out she was pregnant until after she flew into LV but she knew for a fact that she was no longer pregnant when she went missing tells me that there is documentation LE has that she aborted the fetus...JMO


.......I agree completely with this paragraph. Mainly for 2 reasons-she had just landed her dream job as a solo performer in "Fantasy" and the fact that her sister stated that she would not answer the question as to how she was no longer pregnant. Whatever the situation was with her pregnacy I hope she is found safe and soon.
 
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Also I did notice that on her MYSPACE page Debbie did mention stalkers and that she wouldn't state where she currently worked because there were so many stalkers.
 
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If she was concerned that Blu might see the text she sent... why not just ERASE it? Send it while you are in the bathroom at work, then erase it. It's just that simple. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

.......I agree completely with this paragraph. Mainly for 2 reasons-she had just landed her dream job as a solo performer in "Fantasy" and the fact that her sister stated that she would not answer the question as to how she was no longer pregnant. Whatever the situation was with her pregnacy I hope she is found safe and soon.

Her sister also said that she HAD BEEN pregnant, but that she wouldn't discuss how it ended. I think she is avoiding discussing anything that might make Debbie look bad. As we saw with the self esteem thing, she is very defensive of anything critical of her. An abortion would definitely not be something her sister would want to share.

I think if Debbie had made the whole thing up, she would just simply refuse to discuss the pregnancy at all. I don't think she would have answered the question and kept the discussion going. She could have easily just said "I didn't know about that till I arrived here so I'm not going to discuss something I have no knowledge of."

I think the answer to how the pregnancy ended is something that will make Debbie look less sympathetic.

If she did happen to make it up... It would REALLY suck if she was killed because she lied about being pregnant, then lied about having an abortion just to make her boyfriend angry. We've seen that before and it's even more tragic I think....
 
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IMO it must be a challenge to be lusted after and fawned over by so many men, while trying to balance your own feelings about body image and self esteem. Perhaps she felt even more driven to BG because "he loved the real her" or "knew who she really was". Performers in these shows rotate through so much, one minute your dancing lead and the next you're out of a job, I would think someone might feel disposable or feel pushed to please everyone and be perfect no matter what cost. Even people with Masters degrees are susceptible to liars and low self esteem, we all are.
 
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If she was concerned that Blu might see the text she sent... why not just ERASE it? Send it while you are in the bathroom at work, then erase it. It's just that simple. That's what doesn't make sense to me.
I did not think of that MsF, you are right!
 
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One thing I haven't heard anything about...any future plans for searches? I know it is flooding now in Vegas as it has been in much of Southern California, and of course Christmas is coming up, but I would think by Sunday or Monday searches would be possible. All I've heard so far is the sister passing out flyers.
 
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........"Her sister also said that she HAD BEEN pregnant, but that she wouldn't discuss how it ended. I think she is avoiding discussing anything that might make Debbie look bad. As we saw with the self esteem thing, she is very defensive of anything critical of her. An abortion would definitely not be something her sister would want to share.

I think if Debbie had made the whole thing up, she would just simply refuse to discuss the pregnancy at all. I don't think she would have answered the question and kept the discussion going. She could have easily just said "I didn't know about that till I arrived here so I'm not going to discuss something I have no knowledge of."

I think the answer to how the pregnancy ended is something that will make Debbie look less sympathetic.

If she did happen to make it up... It would REALLY suck if she was killed because she lied about being pregnant, then lied about having an abortion just to make her boyfriend angry. We've seen that before and it's even more tragic I think...." SNIPPED by me(Sorry)

....I agree MsFacetious. I think the answer is in your first paragraph concerning the fact that she was no longer pregnant and how that came about. Her sister seems to be trying to be protect her image. JMO I feel so sorry for the sister. Because of this situation she has been thrust into the limelight with no time to prepare on top of trying to deal with the fact that her sister is missing. I would never want to walk in the shoes of a loved one of a missing person. GODSPEED! I hope she is found soon; and strength for the family.
 
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I am sure the car hold alot of evidence. I am also sure that LE knows much more than they are releasing.. due to the fact they are basically saying nothing at all.

I do not see DF going off on a vacation or anything of the sort. The license removed from car. This does not look good. I think it is only a matter of using cell phones and other clues to find the body and/or get some additional information from the X.

I know they make a point to say no person of interest, no suspect but the X is being looked at as he is the only suspect.. from what they are revealing there is no real reason to consider anything else except the x boyfriend at this time.

Hope she is found safe but odds are against it.
 
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Can't people just break up and leave one another alone? What is with men that they can't take being dumped anymore? I don't remember quite so much of this when I was younger...(if that is what it turns out to be, don't mean to accuse or jump the gun.) But in any case, far too many men kill their exes or wives rather than just leave or let them leave. Why can't they take rejection? No one likes it, but it happens to us all.
 
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HLN just covered this case, and the Sister Celeste was on again, she stated that she spoke to BG once before she flew out to LV when she found out Debbie was missing, Celeste has been wanting to meet with BG and have a face to face talk about what there relationship was like and if he could give her any other info about her Sister, but he has yet to even talk to her by phone again and does not seem like he wants to cooperate with the family, also once again the ? came up about how the pregnancy ended and once again she refused to answer, I for the life of me have no idea why when the MSM already knows a person is not going to answer a certain ? or line of ?'s then they don't just leave it alone and let LE figure that out..Ask a different line of ?'s and see if we can get some new info...Grrr.
 
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Just heard on JVM: Deborah had three P. O.'s taken out against her from three different men! Huh?....Seems she may have had a difficult time letting go-also.

This is getting stranger and stranger!
 
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This is becoming weird. Three PFA's against her? I cannot wait to find out what that is about....:waitasec:
 
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IMO, women can be very vindictive. Some use "I'm pregnant" to keep the guy and then use "I got an abortion" just to tick them off. If she had three PO's against her, clearly she was not able to control her emotions when relationships end.

In my lifetime, I have seen this often with women in my son's life and it's not fun at all.

Unfortunatly, something clearly happened that evening and it went way beyond a normal conversation. :(
 
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