GUILTY NV - Jason Rimer, 4, disabled, dies in hot car, Las Vegas, 8 June 2008

[southcitymom]

Forget?? They didn't even wonder where the poor kid was for dinner, bed time or anything!! That to me says volumes about their parenting skills.

I wasn't talking about these parents, bakerprune - as I said earlier, the facts are still coming in about these parents. I completely agree that a 4-year-old should be noticed at dinner, bath, bedtime. I am curious to hear more about this case and will withhold judgment (past my judgment that perhaps they had more kids than they could ably handle) until more facts are in.

I was talking about cases like this in general having different circumstances. In some of these cases, parents forget.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

Whoa.. i'm sorry but I knew where my 4 year old was at ALL times. My 4 year old wasn't even allowed to play outside without me or dad out there the WHOLE time watching.. I don't have much sympathy for these types of parents sorry. So like at bedtime they just crashed never once wondering where their little boy was? Who does that? :waitasec:

 

[Filly]

They must have been awful tired. It can happen.Five older brothers and all surely we can see where parents didn't notice just this one time.

Growing up with people that had ten or more kids in the family nobody ever got forgotten.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I NEVER forgot my children! It isn't like leaving your purse in the car or the keys! It is your CHILD! I notice if my child isn't in the same room with me at 4yo or any other age. Heck...my youngest is 19 and when she is home...I still peek in her when she is sleeping!!

These parents do not deserve these children if they cannot care for them properly and to let one die in a vehicle is definitely NOT caring for them. It is blatent neglect and I hope before they lose another one...the kids are removed and the parents are in jail.

 

[philamena]

17 hours????? Where did the parents think the child was all this time? Was there no thought the night before of getting him ready for bed etc? If he was found at 8:30 a.m., that means he was in the car the day before at 4:30 in the afternoon, was there no thought of feeding him supper? :furious:

VB

Story stinks to high heaven.
By meal time, nap time and bed time, a parent would notice a missing child. The parents should truly be arrested for murder.

 

[Filly]

According to reports this family has a history with Child Protective Services dating back to 1988. That's twenty years ago. Right?

Seems the calls were about neglect as opposed to abuse. Not feeding the kids or unclean living conditions.



http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8459997&nav=menu102_2

 

[Vegas Bride]

Also, what were the sleeping arrangements? Since there were several kids I would doubt the 4 year old had his own bedroom but would be sharing 1 with another brother or 2, no one noticed he wasn't in bed? Didn't the article say it was a brother who found him in the vehicle? I wonder if he was actually looking for him or just happened to come across him.

VB

 

[Taximom]

There is a little girl, now 7ish, in our neighborhood that would spend the entire day at the park across the street from sun up till sun down when she was 5. Her mom is a known alcoholic (and we think drug dealer) and many people, including myself, have called CPS because of the neglect. She has a younger brother too, and he was 3 at the time I saw him by himself in the park. H was in charge of him and he wasn't supposed to get out of the house.

Interestingly enough, at sundown her mother would run through the neighborhood, mad as hell, looking for her because H wasn't home yet. Even SHE knew her daughter was missing. She could have been kidnapped or dead somewhere and her mom wouldn't know till sundown.

This family didn't even miss this 4 yr old at dinner and bedtime etc? I have a feeling the children must have been in charge of their brother, and obviously something went very wrong.

This is crazy.

 

[opme]

Dear lord hate to say but I knew it was only a matter of time before the stories would trickle in about heat related child deaths.. there was 14 month old today in Philly that is at CHOP (childrens hospital pf Philadelphia).. he was left in the car for 5 hours. His grandfather was to drop him off at the daycare on his way to work.. He arrived at work at 8:30am and found the child at 1:30pm after going to his car to find something for the class he was teaching..They are not very optimistic about the little boys chances.. so sad and terribly tragic but so preventable. The grandfather has not been charged pending the outcome of the boys condition.
My prayers to these little ones who deserve people who love and protect them .. not forget them in a car or elsewhere. Dont get me wrong those who legitmately forgot( thoguh how I cant figure out) are living a nightmare and will be tormented by the tragedy and the what if's..

 

[SewingDeb]

A toddler was locked in a daycare van for three hours yesterday (Texas, iirc) and was found alive. Lucky because the temperature was in the 90's.

 

[Filly]

A toddler was locked in a daycare van for three hours yesterday (Texas, iirc) and was found alive. Lucky because the temperature was in the 90's.

It was just announced on our local news a baby was left in a car by his grandpop when the pop went to work. He was supposed to drop the baby off at day care and forgot. Poor baby is in critical condition. Our heat today was lethal. I mean suffocating and the baby was in the car the whole time the pop was working.

I do believe this grandpop forgot to drop this baby off. When people change routines and such you hear of this happen. Nothing like the case here, or Sewing Deb's case, but another baby in a hot car.

 

[MCDRAW]

I wonder why the 4 year old didn't get out of the car. One time my two year old neice got in her car and buckled herself back in her car seat. We had eight babies in our family about the same time. We missed her. We were all running around looking for her. Luckily, someone thought to check the car. She couldn't unbuckle herself. After that we always locked the car doors. Until that happened I had never thought about a child getting into a car. But by the age of four all of them could get out of a car seat and get out of the car by themselves. I can understand them not missing him right away. Six boys...that house must be really busy. But I can't imagine them not missing him at bedtime.

 

[STEADFAST]

According to reports this family has a history with Child Protective Services dating back to 1988. That's twenty years ago. Right?

Seems the calls were about neglect as opposed to abuse. Not feeding the kids or unclean living conditions.

Well, that explains why they didn't miss him at dinner time.

 

[noZme]

from link above:
"Jason's parents and five older brothers were in and out of the house the rest of the day. Nobody noticed Jason wasn't in the mix.

The parents say they don't have an explanation to why -- only saying it was a horrible mistake. At one point, Jason's mother even left the home to pick up their other son from church."

the family had either 6 or 7 boys & the child who died was the youngest.... everybody spaces out sometimes.. i burn bread often..... but how could NOBODY ave missed this child all afternoon & night? i predict problems with survivor's guilt for the older brothers...... as for the so called parents....#@*&^)!!!!!

so what happened at dinner ..... even if they weren't sitting down at the table for a meal, what parent wouldn't see that each child was fed?

what about bedtime? no bath? they had attended church in the morning...no tucking in & saying prayers? i guess it goes without saying there was no "goodnight mama" "goodnight papa" "goodnight jonboy".

they were better at making babies than taking care of them.

 

[Callie]

And they are off!!!! Im sorry to say this wont be the last case of this we hear this summer. I just dont think that anyone could forget their child for any amount of hours in a vehicle on an accident. And if certain people would stop getting off for these kinds of things then maybe others wouldnt do it too thinking they wont get punished. This really makes me mad.

I totally agree. How sad it is.

 

[Vegas Bride]

I wonder why the 4 year old didn't get out of the car. One time my two year old neice got in her car and buckled herself back in her car seat.

He may have fallen asleep before they got home that afternoon. He might have just fallen into a deeper sleep when the car began heating up and never woke up to save himself.

VB

 

[MeoW333]

How sick. There is no way a family "forgets" a child in the car for 17 hours. It was either some twisted depraved act of punishment or intentional murder. Either way it leads to the same thing= a child is dead. The family obviously has a history with CPS of which nothing was done.

 

[AmandaBrown23]

Well this is just one of the many we have discussed here, can anyone tell me of one where they dont think its the parents fault?? I just dont see how anyone can leave a child in a car for hours and not notice. I think therew was one guy who had to last minute bring his baby to daycare and it wasnt his normal routine so he forgot the child in the car and it died. I can maybe and I mean maybe grasp that. But 17 hours no way. Its just so heartbreaking.

 

[Taximom]

He may have fallen asleep before they got home that afternoon. He might have just fallen into a deeper sleep when the car began heating up and never woke up to save himself.

VB

I read somewhere that dying this way (in an overheated car) is very long and painful. Hair is pulled out and there is much struggling and crying/screaming. I find it hard to believe he died peacefully in a deep sleep, which begs the question why nobody heard him? Maybe everyone was inside w/the air conditioning on, including neighbors.

Maybe he did fall asleep and stay that way, I have no idea. Just saying what I read once about it. Please don't take my comment the wrong way, Vegas Bride! :blowkiss:

 

[Mygirlsadie]

Oh taximom that just sounds so horrible. What a way to die for such a small guy..:furious: God bless his little heart.

I read somewhere that dying this way (in an overheated car) is very long and painful. Hair is pulled out and there is much struggling and crying/screaming. I find it hard to believe he died peacefully in a deep sleep, which begs the question why nobody heard him? Maybe everyone was inside w/the air conditioning on, including neighbors.

Maybe he did fall asleep and stay that way, I have no idea. Just saying what I read once about it. Please don't take my comment the wrong way, Vegas Bride! :blowkiss: