Identified! NV - Las Vegas, *GRAPHIC*, Skull found on Lake Mead shoreline, 2nd discovery in week, May'22 - Thomas Erndt

[RickshawFan]

Does anyone know what this is or what it reads?

ETA: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/0...rday_were_uncovered_bec-a-3_1652106084533.jpg

FLU = FLUID

2 fluid ounces

 

[RickshawFan]

@yurintroubl it's a 1977 Coors beer can. The one you posted is from 1959.
https://www.molsoncoorsblog.com/sites/mcblog/files/uploads/2019/01/Banquet-Can-Lineup.jpg

See how the 12 is centered right below the "oo" in Coors?

It may have nothing to do with the remains, as @summergirl1 said, but if it does, we know it was between 1977 and 1979. The Coors Banquet can changed its label again in 1978.

MOO JMO

We didn't have barcodes in 1977.

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[PatLaurel]

We didn't have barcodes in 1977.

Bars & Stripes First Introduced​

Bars & Stripes was first introduced to the market in 1991 by Tippecanoe Systems, Inc. Since then, Bars & Stripes has gone on to be one of the industry’s most popular barcode software applications enabling small businesses to adopt bar coding with minimal expense.

History of Barcodes – Barcodes Inc

When was the barcode invented? Who invented it? Learn all the history of barcodes at Barcodes Inc.

www.barcodesinc.com

I don't see barcodes mentioned anywhere...

MOO JMO

 

[PatLaurel]

FLU = FLUID

2 fluid ounces

Thanks. As it was previously mentioned it's a 1977 Coors Banquet can.

https://www.molsoncoorsblog.com/sites/mcblog/files/uploads/2019/01/Banquet-Can-Lineup.jpg

See how the PU, the OO and the 12 are aligned with each other? The only Banquet can with that label is the 1977 one. I don't see any barcodes, btw...

MOO JMO

 

[carbuff]

8 News NOW Las Vegas put out a video. It appears to be a partial body and looks a bit suspicious for an accidental death.

Graphic

I can't quite tell what I'm looking at. If it's a skull, it's from an unusual angle. I can't think of other bones with holes like that though.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I can't quite tell what I'm looking at. If it's a skull, it's from an unusual angle. I can't think of other bones with holes like that though.

At the 1:18 mm; It's a torso. The big holes are where its legs were cut off. Missing the upper parts of the body.

The only reason I know this is I was watching Sin City Outdoors YT and that's what they were told. When they were there, divers were still searching for the rest of it.

 

[carbuff]

At the 1:18 mm; It's a torso. The big holes are where its legs were cut off. Missing the upper parts of the body.

The only reason I know this is I was watching Sin City Outdoors YT and that's what they were told. When they were there, divers were still searching for the rest of it.

Okay, thanks, I can see it now.

 

[RickshawFan]

I don't see barcodes mentioned anywhere...

MOO JMO

Bars and stripes are barcodes. The can has barcodes on it.

 

[RickshawFan]

Thanks. As it was previously mentioned it's a 1977 Coors Banquet can.

https://www.molsoncoorsblog.com/sites/mcblog/files/uploads/2019/01/Banquet-Can-Lineup.jpg

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See how the PU, the OO and the 12 are aligned with each other? The only Banquet can with that label is the 1977 one. I don't see any barcodes, btw...

MOO JMO

I don't see a P or a U in the found can fragment. I see vertical bars, i.e. a bar code.

 

[evilwise]

Exceptional beer identification, Sleuths. I don't know if it will be meaningful but here's a pretty clear 1:1 comparison. The can with the body is crumpled and shot at an upward angle but it's definitely that can.

 

[PatLaurel]

Bars and stripes are barcodes. The can has barcodes on it.

I know what barcodes are, I just didn't see them mentioned here by anyone. That's what I meant. And I also don't see a barcode on the can.

MOO JMO

 

[PatLaurel]

I don't see a P or a U in the found can fragment. I see vertical bars, i.e. a bar code.

I'm not good at drawing but, from the photo @evilwise posted, I can make out a P and a U. And Coors.

MOO JMO

 

[yurintroubl]

Aaaaah. OK. Was starting to think I was missing something.... looking for a bar code on all the cans in that retrospective image. lol I see where that thin font may appear to look like a bar code... especially if trying to view the image on a phone and not a monitor.

 

[yurintroubl]

This new set of remains looks like it's gotten the "Vesuvius treatment" but some of the skeleton intact. Now whether this happened naturally via silt and mud... or resulted from encasement of an unnatural, man-made sort... The few snips of video I've seen aren't definitive enough for me to even speculate.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Body #4; this one was also found at Swim Beach. I wonder if it's the missing parts of the other one?
[snips]
National Park Service Rangers received an emergency call reporting the discovery of human skeletal remains at Swim Beach in the Lake Mead National Recreation Area around 11:15 a.m.
...
The first set was found May 1 when a body was found in a barrel near Hemenway Harbor.

Less than a week later, additional human remains were found at Callville Bay. The third set of remains was found on July 25, when a person at Swim Beach near Boulder Beach reported human remains to the National Park Service.

Fourth set of human remains discovered at Lake Mead since May

Another set of skeletal remains was discovered at Lake Mead on Saturday morning.

fox59.com

by: Linsey Lewis, Nexstar Media Wire
Posted: Aug 7, 2022 / 11:51 AM EDT
Updated: Aug 7, 2022 / 12:06 PM EDT

 

[Martinie]

We didn't have barcodes in 1977.

Bars & Stripes First Introduced​

Bars & Stripes was first introduced to the market in 1991 by Tippecanoe Systems, Inc. Since then, Bars & Stripes has gone on to be one of the industry’s most popular barcode software applications enabling small businesses to adopt bar coding with minimal expense.

History of Barcodes – Barcodes Inc

When was the barcode invented? Who invented it? Learn all the history of barcodes at Barcodes Inc.

www.barcodesinc.com

Are you talking about above the word coors? I don't think that's a bar code, it looks like words

 

[j_in_c]

Are there separate threads for each set of remains? In the news this is now tracked as the 5th set of remains... So many at Lake Mead and so far nothing at Lake Powell?

5th set of human remains found in receding Lake Mead

The fifth set of human remains since May were found in Lake Mead this week, officials say.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Caring1]

Human remains found in receding Lake Mead identified as man who reportedly drowned two decades ago, officials say - NewsBreak

Human remains found at Lake Mead more than three months ago have been identified as Thomas Erndt, who is believed to have died by drowning two...

www.newsbreakapp.com

 

[Puzzleworth]

Are there separate threads for each set of remains? In the news this is now tracked as the 5th set of remains... So many at Lake Mead and so far nothing at Lake Powell?

5th set of human remains found in receding Lake Mead

The fifth set of human remains since May were found in Lake Mead this week, officials say.

abcnews.go.com

Perhaps a mod can help with changing the titles? This body was called "Callville Bay Doe" by the Clark County Coroner. I can't find any information on how they're referring to the other bodies, but it's likely to be similar.

I've been trying to track these cases to keep them all straight. So far this year (August 25, 2022) there have been:

Hemenway Harbor Boat Ramp Doe, May 1 (adult male found in barrel, shot to death)
Callville Bay Doe, May 7 (bones buried in soil, IDed as Mr. Thomas Erndt, had drowned August 2, 2002)

And three sets of remains at Boulder/Swim Beach, which may belong to 1-3 different people:

Boulder/Swim Beach Remains 1, a semi-preserved torso(?) found "around 4:30 PM on July 25," and
Boulder/Swim Beach Remains 2 (details of remains unavailable) found August 6, possibly belonging to just one person

Boulder/Swim Beach Remains 3, found August 15 (details unavailable, but I'd guess the CCOC/ME is looking into whether they were the same decedent as the others found nearby)

It is worth noting that 4/5 of these are found in the same general area. Hemenway Harbor, where Swim Beach and the boat ramp are, is at the far southern end of Lake Mead. Callville Bay, where Mr. Erndt's corpse was found, is about twenty miles away. Both are the most populated areas of the lake.

 

[varro]

RIP Thomas Erndt.

Interview with Mr. Erndt's son, also named Thomas Erndt.