Recovered/Located NV - Ronnie (found deceased) & Beverly Barker (taken for med care), RV trip, Stagecoach, 27 Mar 2022

  • #381
I think the Kia might have been needed to get back down the mountain...

I'm still leaning towards this as a robbery, the RV was abandoned, and the Kia was stolen.
 
  • #382
This map includes Red Mountain, Silver Peak, Nivloc and the red dot is Coyote Road.

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I believe the "Silver Peak" most have been referring to, is the tiny town of Silver Peak, just to the east off your map, where all the roads converge, not the actual mountain named Silver Peak. JMO
 
  • #383
I don't like to think this but were they the ones driving when it got stuck in the mud.
 
  • #384
I'm still leaning towards this as a robbery, the RV was abandoned, and the Kia was stolen.

I’m leaning toward misadventure. Isn’t the RV worth many times what the Kia is worth? Or does the recognizability of the RV make it a liability?
 
  • #385
I’m leaning toward misadventure. Isn’t the RV worth many times what the Kia is worth? Or does the recognizability of the RV make it a liability?

I think it's a liability because it's big and recognizable.
 
  • #386
MSM has it now.
Missing couple’s RV found empty, nephew says | KLAS

ESMERALDA COUNTY, Nev. (KLAS) — The nephew of the missing couple who were driving through Nevada says their RV has been found, but the couple and their car were not there.

Travis Peters tells 8 News Now that “They discovered the RV this afternoon around noon your time. It’s located on the other side of red mountain I’m not sure exactly where but it’s in the Silver Peak area. Ronnie and Beverly were not with the RV, and the car was gone. All the Deputy could tell us is that it was buried in the mud.”
Same article says LE did not confirm.

"However, 8 News Now called the Esmeralda County Sheriff’s Office and was told the RV had not been found today."

That's curious. Would be helpful to know if it was spotted from the air & by whom.

And to those speculating it was driven there by the Barkers? Highly unlikely in my view. These people didn't have a death wish & leaving the community of Silver Creek to go west into the mountains? Not buying it.

There needs to be FBI on this one ASAP.

JMHO
 
  • #387
LE should know much more after processing the scene. Was the wheelchair and walker missing? Medications?
 
  • #388
If they got stuck in the mud, they'd use their car to drive out and would notify people that they were stuck in the mud. Since that didn't happen, police should be looking at this as two missing people and stolen vehicle - in my opinion.
 
  • #389
If they got stuck in the mud, they'd use their car to drive out and would notify people that they were stuck in the mud. Since that didn't happen, police should be looking at this as two missing people and stolen vehicle - in my opinion.
One other possibility. They were lost with the RV and when trying to drive out, had no clue which way to go in order to get back to the main road. There seems to be a myriad of roads up in and around there. Or they also became stuck and can't drive. I'll hold onto that slim hope, even though I tend to agree with you.
 
  • #390
If theRV is stuck in the mud, they could have driven out in the Kia and it got stuck also. No cell coverage, or phones not charged......ran out of gas, could not charge phones, don't have a generator, etc. So they could possibly be stuck on a road with no cell coverage, or dead phones. Hopefully they took plenty of food and water from the RV with them in the Kia. They could have stayed a few days in the RV waiting for someone to find them also!

Miracles do happen! Still hoping for a good outcome.
 
  • #391
Gray Hughes will be going over this case at 9 pm central

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  • #392
This reminds me slightly of Cecil Knutson and Diana Bedwell. 79 and 68. I don’t think that it was ever quite clear why they ended up where they did, but I think it was clearly misadventure, not foul play. Diana survived to tell the story. (They were even last seen at a casino, which increased the suspicions of foul play.) No RV involved in their case, but the RV in this case has suddenly become unimportant, I think.

Edited: Oh no! This looks as though it’s exactly the same. Praying for her.

MOO

Recovered/Located - CA - Cecil Knutson (dec'd), Dianna Bedwell (inj'd), Valley Ctr, 10 May 2015
 
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  • #393
If they got stuck in the mud, they'd use their car to drive out and would notify people that they were stuck in the mud. Since that didn't happen, police should be looking at this as two missing people and stolen vehicle - in my opinion.
Especially if no note left behind.
(I remember a training class that stressed leaving a note behind if abandoning a disabled vehicle.)
I hope they are safe somewhere.
JMO
 
  • #394
Especially if no note left behind.
(I remember a training class that stressed leaving a note behind if abandoning a disabled vehicle.)
I hope they are safe somewhere.
JMO

I’d guess that a lot of people, in the stress of abandoning a disabled vehicle, don’t think of that. Or can’t find anything to write with.
 
  • #395
Is there any way to get to where the RV was (possibly? unconfirmed) located, OTHER than driving through the town of Silver Peak?

Didn't we see someone there quoted as saying the RV never came through there, as it would have been noticed?

Hmm...
 
  • #396
Lots of people are talking about how GPS routed them this way and the narrow gravel road soon turns into a narrow dirt road with no way to possibly turn around in a large RV with a tow car. I think this is what happened, and they got stuck. Hopefully they stayed in the RV the majority of this time. The tow vehicle might have been kept very low on gas to keep the weight down for towing and they might have been totally turned around not knowing which way was out.
 
  • #397
Is there any way to get to where the RV was (possibly? unconfirmed) located, OTHER than driving through the town of Silver Peak?

Didn't we see someone there quoted as saying the RV never came through there, as it would have been noticed?

Hmm...
The reports are saying it was found west of Silver Peak, so it never made it that far.
 
  • #398
The reports are saying it was found west of Silver Peak, so it never made it that far.

The news report referred to the road as a mountain road. Does that imply cliffs where a vehicle might slide off the edge?
 
  • #399
Is there any way to get to where the RV was (possibly? unconfirmed) located, OTHER than driving through the town of Silver Peak?

Didn't we see someone there quoted as saying the RV never came through there, as it would have been noticed?

Hmm...
They said if an RV had been 'parked' around there it would have been noticed. Perhaps it drove the route around the edge of town.

At least one of the Barker's Apple watches was recorded as being near Silver Peak that evening, it's why the search went west of there.
 
  • #400
I was picturing the route as south on 265 to Silver Peak, then west up into the mountains, where roads get narrow and some, maybe most, dead-end.

Are you thinking the RV traveled south through Dyer and then east?

I'm not sure there are RV-capable roads over the mountains there.

edit: in reply to @Psychic Sleuth
 

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