NV NV - Steven Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #22

  • #961
Yes, agree. Sadly if he was randomly murdered for some reason, I don't think they would take the time and effort to conceal the body and bury him. Much easier to just dump the body somewhere that would end up on a landfill.

If he did snap, and wander off into the desert there could be a possibility his remains may be found eventually. The desert not having much brush, I find it so crazy that it takes so long to find people's remains in such an open area, yet it appears to happen more often than you'd think.
 
  • #962
I still believe the killer, who is certainly the one with initials MD, strangled Steven and then put him inside the moving van. Then driven and dumped in the desert. His residence in Pahrump would be a pretty stupid place to bury him, if he has the whole desert to use
 
  • #963
It would be foolish of me to dismiss a burial in the desert or discarding the body in a dumpster. Both are plausible theories. However, both require transporting the body at the risk of discovery while in the disposal process. History is replete with murderers burying bodies on the murderers own property.

I have found both MD and his father were both adept at construction, good with their hands. I also know the home was being remodeled by the father at some point during MD's stay there. The risk of discovery at burying the body on site is a lower risk of discovery, imo. It wouldn't take long to bury the body several feet down, then place concrete over it, like a patio pad. This method would be relatively easy and effective, at least until LE actively starts looking. Ergo, a starting point by ruling this site in or out.
 
  • #964
It would be foolish of me to dismiss a burial in the desert or discarding the body in a dumpster. Both are plausible theories. However, both require transporting the body at the risk of discovery while in the disposal process. History is replete with murderers burying bodies on the murderers own property.

I have found both MD and his father were both adept at construction, good with their hands. I also know the home was being remodeled by the father at some point during MD's stay there. The risk of discovery at burying the body on site is a lower risk of discovery, imo. It wouldn't take long to bury the body several feet down, then place concrete over it, like a patio pad. This method would be relatively easy and effective, at least until LE actively starts looking. Ergo, a starting point by ruling this site in or out.
I agree that all of those possibilities should be investigated but starting with the one location closest to where he was last seen. It seems as if more concrete evidence is needed in order to move forward with the search of specific properties. Maybe it would make sense to look at the prior stops again on the drive towards Vegas - the intend and specific stop location of which is still dubious but clearly in a specific location. Interestingly this is where the Lat/Long confusion comes in also. If a connection can be established to why he was there, maybe this would provide more context to push for further investigation in Anthem or help to establish why he ended up on that street in Anthem.
 
  • #965
I get what you're saying Glovey, neither of the residences should be ruled out. Its entirely possible he was buried at 2260 or pahrump, I was just thinking in the moment, that presumably, the moving van was already at 2260 when Steven (most likely) stopped by and a deadly confrontation/argument happened, (though i am not sure if it was ever documented exactly what time the van showed up in the driveway) if in his drug induced state of mind, after strangling him, panicked and decided he needed to get him off the property ASAP for fear someone might be looking for him. Especially if Steven joking could have said "I almost gave the money/pills to a guy on the other street over there". Which could have made MD think that neighbour called the police, or neighbourhood watch.. Which could be why the entire contents were moved out, to make it appear no one was living there, and therefore no one had a reason to stop
 
  • #966
If anyone is interested theres photos of the residence here https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...ing-Lights-St_Henderson_NV_89052_M21356-92750 and they are marked 2010, likely taken that year, since I read it was under foreclosure in early 2010. One has to wonder why "the home was being remodeled by the father at some point during MD's stay there" if it was being foreclosed, but i am not sure of the exact timeline. The backyard looks kind of creepy. But its not entirely private, since the neighbours windows are in view
 
  • #967
I hope no one takes this the wrong way but I'm not sure why most unsolved disappearances are equated to a murder..there are other things like coercion, kidnapping, abductions, drugs, human trafficking, freak accidents, suicide etc which exist in the world...and we have no body as of yet. How has it been confirmed as homicide and who killed him ?
I want to be clear upfront- this isn't meant to be argumentative. You're right to point out that there are many possible explanations in this case, some of which may be more likely than others. But at the end of so many of those possibilities- accidental overdose, trafficking, coercion- the outcome often circles back to the same tragic end: some degree of death. That doesn't negate alternate theories; it just highlights how often they converge on the same result.

With Stephen's case, we have a few undeniable facts. He was separated from his car. He wasn't found near it, nor was his body ever recovered from anywhere along the logical path he might have taken. That alone doesn't prove foul play, but it does rule out several scenarios as unlikely.

For example, in over 15 years, a freak accident- one that doesn't leave a trace, body, or clue - stretches believability. The same goes for suicide. There are multiple lines of reasoning to doubt that outcome, but even if you put those aside, it's rare for a suicide to leave absolutely no trace after this much time.

Drugs? Sure, an accidental overdose is conceivable. But again- where is the body?

Coercion is possible too. Maybe someone talked Stephen into disappearing, isolating himself, staying silent for 15 years. But why? And how? If coercion was the vehicle, it likely fed into something darker like trafficking, forced labor, abuse and those outcomes often end fatally, especially when the person doesn't resurface. It's not uncommon for coercion to be the means of disappearance, not the reason.

And then there's the timeline. Statistically, individuals caught in trafficking rings (particularly males Stephen's age) are not held for 15 years. The average span is closer to 15 months. So if ths was trafficking, the lack of any "return" or body suggests a more permanent outcome.

That's why I come back to the likelihood that Stephen met with foul play, even if it wasn't premeditated. But here's where I think your point deserves more traction: maybe we're too focusd on the why. Maybe it wasn't about motive or revenge or even intent. Maybe it was a tragic series of events- a confrontation, a misstep that led to panic, cover-up, and silence.

This is where Occam's Razor might apply though not to narrow the field to the most sinister suspect, but to suggest that the simplest explanation could be a bad situation that spiraled, followed by people doing everything they could to hide what happened. That may be more plausible than some grand motive or elaborate plan. Maybe the answer lies not in "Who wanted him dead?" but "What happened that made someone desperate to keep it hidden?"

Just thinking out loud really.
 
  • #968
I agree, highly unlikely Stephen is still alive, just wish his family had closure. I also agree that even though it seemed his life was not in a good place, that suicide in that location seems strange, with no note and no body discovered after so much time. His life spiraling, the car being found as it was (said it appeared he'd been living in it), perhaps the spiral was from drugs? Changes in his behavior, desperately looking for a job/money and not returning home to family when in financial trouble could indicate drug abuse, definitely some poor mental state of mind. Unfortunately, addiction happens to all types of people from all walks of life, if drug use was a consideration. Those closest to him may have seen personality changes etc and thought it was stress, I don't recall if his family when interviewed thought his behavior was different. I do believe he wasn't on that particular road in that particular neighborhood randomly, he drove there with a purpose. Whether he left there alive with someone/others or deceased leaving his car behind is the question. Other posters said there did seem to be a drug connection to some people in his life. Being involved in that world can have bad consequences, which seems plausible here. Other posters have said the one house on the street had some people living there with questionable backgrounds. Like others as we think about this case, it does seem Stephen met with trouble, either that day of arrival in that neighborhood, or somewhere else with the people he may have left with that day. If he got in a vehicle and ran into trouble in another location the search becomes a lot tougher/wider on where Stephen could be.

Wonder if the police detailed what was found in his car? I know family said it was messy, appeared he'd been living out of it. I recall the trunk had his resumes more scattered than neatly in a folder, but wonder if anything else was found that would pique interest? Something written down, addresses, names?
 
  • #969
There's been a lot of cases of people falling asleep somewhere random and ended up missing say in a garbage dump and the truck came and didn't see them...

He didn't have a room to go back to technically as he was drowning in rent debt and might have been avoiding the apartment altogether.

But that being said I agree with both of the posters above and that seems to give his possible outcome a lot more clarity.
 
  • #970
New podcast about Steven's case--with a very interesting breakdown of the various scenarios!!

 

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