NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #10

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When be left the party abruptly, maybe someone at the party said,hey its getting late, we need to leave now, or it will be to late to get out of town! Steven went and grabbed a few things and off they went. The other person took his car, because he told Steven, he was going to stay longer to visit friends or some other excuse. Just a thought.

That party was the Dec 7th party at Paul Doxey's home, and Steven saw his boss the next day.
 
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I am going to go back to the church christmas party, and see if I notice anyone Steven was talking to, or sat by, or any clues. Did anyone notice anybody? If they made plans at the Christmas party, to go to Vegas,(for whatever reason:helping someone move, go visit another ward, etc. he would not have had to use his phone. The plans were made in person.

He stood by GW, and sat by both GW and the girl who works in the venetian blind shop (who he'd made the hometeaching appointment with).

He had a hometeaching appointment with that girl; could there have been a fall-out there? He never cancelled it. She just figured "something had come up".

ETA:
Thanks for the reminder. That makes TWO Church "callings" that he blew off on Dec 13th: his Elder's Quorum responsibilities and the later hometeaching appointment.
 
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...and will be dependent on the funding of the Henderson PD, to do those DNA tests that Mr Koecher would like done.

Anyone else (besides me) willing to pay higher income taxes to pay for all the police investigative work that we want done, but we know is not?

maybe someone can pass a hat around St. George so that ALL the deeply concerned people can donate toward a fund to run DNA tests on these articles of clothing. Let them put their $$$$ where it counts.
 
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The N family I found, doesn't live on ET. That's the thing.

He wouldn't have been looking for ET/EL house numbers. It would only have been a street he turned onto, to get to the street the N family lived on.




I don't know if this was a family member. It was just one of those odd coincidences I thought we should bang around a bit:
A famly with the same name as SK had visited three days before, living near a street with a near-identical name as the street he walked down.
SK's family talks how he enjoyed doing genealogy; maybe he had found something on the N family, as a way to ingratiate himself. Maybe he had done temple sealings of N ancestors, and wanted to tell them about it?

If you do enough genealogy, you find everyone's related way back when.



If Steven had directions, I think they were on paper. He had no Magellan, Garmin, and (evidently) had never searched for that address through his computer.

Before I got my own Garmin, I'd be driving in strange cities and have to follow a map I'd printed out from online mapquest.

I was always making wrong turns. And someone's directions given over the phone could be even worse or more confusing.

I drove and walked confidently, because I didn't know I was in the wrong place.

ANYWAY, I was just giving it as an example as the kind of thing we'd played with and discarded.


Maybe SK didn't have directions or a mapquest to the location, but just got in his car and drove. Maybe all he had was an address, and that it was in SCA. So when he found EL/ET he just parked in the culdesac.

The problem with my thoughts is that he didn't drive as if he was looking for a street.

Yet, it seems as if he was spontaneously driving around the week prior. What's so different about the 12th & 13th?
 
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Maybe SK was sleep deprived from stress, and not thinking logically. I'd like to think we've all been there before in our lives, and can relate to this.
 
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Maybe SK didn't have directions or a mapquest to the location, but just got in his car and drove. Maybe all he had was an address, and that it was in SCA. So when he found EL/ET he just parked in the culdesac.

The problem with my thoughts is that he didn't drive as if he was looking for a street.

Yet, it seems as if he was spontaneously driving around the week prior. What's so different about the 12th & 13th?

If we knew what time that Overton cellphone ping occurred, we could guess/assume/work on a possible drive to Vegas on the 12th. Everything else we have, northward.

If he seems to comfortably walk in SCA on the 13th, is it possible he was there on the 12th?
 
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There must have been two parties at Christmas time. If you look at the pics on the timeline of Dec 7, the pics of Steven and GW, they are wearing different clothes. So maybe there was church dinner and then a personal dinner at PD's house too. ????

Pics 1 and 11.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=photos&gid=28433752446
 
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Maybe SK was sleep deprived from stress, and not thinking logically. I'd like to think we've all been there before in our lives, and can relate to this.

There was mention of him sleep walking in the past....and this "spontaneous behavior" is right on with that. But I was met with conflicting answers upon further questioning.
Just sayin..
 
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OK, I don't know how to bring over a single post view as done here. Can someone pleassssssse let me how to do this? Or where to get the instruction on WS to do it? TIA

go to the post you want to copy,
click on the number,
right hand corner.
copy the link. then
paste the link

Hope that helps
 
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go to the post you want to copy,
click on the number,
right hand corner.
copy the link. then
paste the link

Hope that helps

Your too good. Thanks!
 
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Okay so GW was in LV on Sunday. Does any one know when he went down,and what he was doing there? And who he went to see? I wish he would get on FB or here, and tell us.
 
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Wow, yes I see that! I wonder if there are dates on the original pictures.

Maybe someone here who knows somebody at his ward can ask about party dates? Renn? We need you!

That would explain the prior info on the party the 12th that someone mentioned.
 
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Okay so GW was in LV on Sunday. Does any one know when he went down,and what he was doing there? And who he went to see? I wish he would get on FB or here, and tell us.

Naegle posted right here on WS that GW went down to Vegas on Dec 11th (Friday) to visit friends there.
 
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Okay so GW was in LV on Sunday. Does any one know when he went down,and what he was doing there? And who he went to see? I wish he would get on FB or here, and tell us.

He was visiting friends in LV. He must have spent the night and called SK to ask if he could replace him for church @ 11. See timeline.
 
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Naegle posted right here on WS that GW went down to Vegas on Dec 11th (Friday) to visit friends there.


So he was there the whole weekend? Have his friends been interviewed? Did he tell anybody he was going for the weekend? So someone could conduct meetings Sunday?
 
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So he was there the whole weekend? Have his friends been interviewed? Did he tell anybody he was going for the weekend? So someone could conduct meetings Sunday?

It's right there on the timeline, exactly as Naegle posted it right after she talked to GW. Y'all know how feisty she can be, so I think she got good stuff out of him.

If you want to read her entire post, there's a link.

The part that answers your questions is here:

"He went to Las Vegas on the 11th and spent the weekend with friends in the Vegas area. He headed home on Sunday(13th) morning. He called Steven because he wasn't going to be in St George in time for the planning meeting and wanted to see if he could cover. He called when he was on I-15 passing the raceway in Vegas. He continued home and made it to the normal church meetings at noon."
 
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