NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - # 8

[RubyRed]

It makes me very emotional when I look at those pictures of Steven. I do not have any sons, but daughters. And I have a daughter his age, who is also blonde. I know Steven's parent. I do not know steven. But I feel very drawn to him. I want him to be found (like all of you do) and hope the outcome would be good.

(((hugs))) sbakker. I also wish the family could get the one tip that would bring him home, safely.

 

[laytonian]

It makes me very emotional when I look at those pictures of Steven. I do not have any sons, but daughters. And I have a daughter his age, who is also blonde. I know Steven's parent. I do not know steven. But I feel very drawn to him. I want him to be found (like all of you do) and hope the outcome would be good.

You're right, we all do. I have no sons, "just" one daughter. But I've kinda adopted Steven, I guess ... even though I'm just the kind of person he'd have run screaming from at the Salt Lake Tribune

Those summer pictures (volleyball?) look like what I imagine he'd look like on the street -- and I really appreciate them putting up PROFILES of him, because those really show his "looks".

Darn you, Steve. Where are you?

 

[sbakker]

Well, we will hang in here, and we will work to find Steven! Laytonian, you have put in alot of work, and I know others have too. He is a precious guy, I can just tell.

 

[Sin City]

Thanks to all that responded to my mail carrier question. Now that I'm reminded I do recall in the previous threads that the carrier was questioned. Too bad it was a Sunday, therefore no mail delivery.

My husband delivers to both lock boxes, curb boxes, and doors on his route. Mind you, he's had the same route 13yrs, so he notices stuff in the neighborhood.

It seems that SK's disappearance was well planned out. Either by him, or another, or both.

 

[gypsyblue]

Hey, you gave up two minutes ago

OK....the closest one to where the car was found is this one:
2200 E Serene Ave, Las Vegas, NV 89123

It's nine miles away, just off I-215.

The closest Best Buy is:
611 Marks St
Henderson, NV 89014

Those two places are ten miles apart. I can't find any Best Buy or Home Depots near each other.

dont know if this was answered yet.....but there is a home depot in the shopping center directly across from best buy on marks and sunset.....It is actually the only bb and hd that are close to eachother. Not too many best buys in vegas. Also this is closest shopping to anthem....fwiw

 

[gypsyblue]

can someone please link me to prior discussion of the white suv that went out of its way to turn around and watch steven walk around the corner from where he parked his car? and possibly any word on the investigation surrounding this suv? tyia......

 

[Lato]

can someone please link me to prior discussion of the white suv that went out of its way to turn around and watch steven walk around the corner from where he parked his car? and possibly any word on the investigation surrounding this suv? tyia......

I did a search "steven white SUV" and the following is a post (there are others) about that vehicle. The person responding is a family member:

#205 01-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Naegle
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 64

snip

On his initial search of the area Steven's father found that the white SUV belongs to a real estate agent who works for the house that the SUV parked in front of. Apparently it's a coincidence that the SUV pulled up to the house just as Steven waked in front of it.

 

[gypsyblue]

I did a search "steven white SUV" and the following is a post (there are others) about that vehicle. The person responding is a family member:

#205 01-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Naegle
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 64

snip

On his initial search of the area Steven's father found that the white SUV belongs to a real estate agent who works for the house that the SUV parked in front of. Apparently it's a coincidence that the SUV pulled up to the house just as Steven waked in front of it.

thanks....sure doesnt seem that way in the video, the suv even appears to inch up to the turn that steven takes....odd for sure....imo

 

[Lato]

thanks....sure doesnt seem that way in the video, the suv even appears to inch up to the turn that steven takes....odd for sure....imo

The following link shows pictures that Fairy1 took one afternoon/evening in
SCA. Picture 4 and 5 show what I believe to be either a speed bump or
a dip in the road. It occurs right where the car is parked in the picture
and it is right by the house that the SUV is associated with. That may
be the reason the cars slowed down at that point. Fairy1 may be able
to tell us for sure.

http://sites.google.com/site/parallelcooler/home/koecher-html/f1-images

 

[seekingsusan]

Who is C and why does she have so many nice pictures of Steven? Just wondering.....could she be the girl from the song?

 

[gypsyblue]

The following link shows pictures that Fairy1 took one afternoon/evening in
SCA. Picture 4 and 5 show what I believe to be either a speed bump or
a dip in the road. It occurs right where the car is parked in the picture
and it is right by the house that the SUV is associated with. That may
be the reason the cars slowed down at that point. Fairy1 may be able
to tell us for sure.

http://sites.google.com/site/parallelcooler/home/koecher-html/f1-images

thans for the lin to the pics. the thing is the video I saw, the suv stopped.....or it sure looked like it....imo

 

[RubyRed]

This is my favorite, of the new pics.


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...al&view=global&subj=225335012614&id=667465961

 

[Lato]

thanks....sure doesnt seem that way in the video, the suv even appears to inch up to the turn that steven takes....odd for sure....imo

This case has a number of "odd for sure" items:

Why was Steven driving all over Utah before going to LV?
Since this was a Sunday morning, why was Steven in LV and not at LDS Services?
Why was Steven's friend GW also in LV? Were they together?
GW says that he spoke to Steven early in the morning about covering the LDS service and Steven said he
could return to St. George for the service. GW declined his offer. Steven was ready to return to St. George. Whatever he planned seemed to be for a short time only. He had Christmas presents for his brothers children in the car.
Where was Steven in the morning before arriving at SCA.
Was that Steven in the video? Parents and friend say yes.
Has the SUV been totally cleared?
Where did Steven go? ....to a house, a car, or for a walk?
Was he in LV to meet someone? to interview for a job? or what?
Who invited Steven to LV. Was this invitation through a direct conversation? Where and when did it happen?
What was Steven carrying under his left arm in the video?
Why did Steven not return? and where is he now?

Other things to think about...
When did Steven start working for the Window Washing Company?
What was his job there?
How much money did he receive and how often was he paid?
Was the owner of the company involved in anything other than window washing?
Would he have put Steven at risk?

Did the landlords decide to evict Steven? If so, did he know?
Did the landlord lock Steven out of his room due to non-payment of rent?
Is the landlord involved in anything unusual? Would he have put Steven at risk?

There is another person renting at the same house for some time.
What is he involved in and would he have put Steven at risk?

Was the trip to Ruby Valley just an odd trip or is there something else there?

Most of Steven's associates are members of the Young Singles Ward.
Is there anyone there who is hiding information that might help find Steven?

The man with the "fabulous smile" needs to return to his family.

I don't know which search sites you are using, but I have been using
www.123people.com recently to try to put individuals together.

Everything takes a long time, but I think it is worth it.

 

[sbakker]

thans for the lin to the pics. the thing is the video I saw, the suv stopped.....or it sure looked like it....imo

I do not care what the driver of the SUV said, i hope there was VERY VERY thourough(sp?) investigation on the people in the SUV. Yes, maybe it was a realator,but who knows what else he or she was involved in.

 

[Fairy1]

This case has a number of "odd for sure" items:

Why was Steven driving all over Utah before going to LV?
Since this was a Sunday morning, why was Steven in LV and not at LDS Services?
Why was Steven's friend GW also in LV? Were they together?
GW says that he spoke to Steven early in the morning about covering the LDS service and Steven said he
could return to St. George for the service. GW declined his offer. Steven was ready to return to St. George. Whatever he planned seemed to be for a short time only. He had Christmas presents for his brothers children in the car.
Where was Steven in the morning before arriving at SCA.
Was that Steven in the video? Parents and friend say yes.
Has the SUV been totally cleared?
Where did Steven go? ....to a house, a car, or for a walk?
Was he in LV to meet someone? to interview for a job? or what?
Who invited Steven to LV. Was this invitation through a direct conversation? Where and when did it happen?
What was Steven carrying under his left arm in the video?
Why did Steven not return? and where is he now?

Other things to think about...
When did Steven start working for the Window Washing Company?
What was his job there?
How much money did he receive and how often was he paid?
Was the owner of the company involved in anything other than window washing?
Would he have put Steven at risk?

Did the landlords decide to evict Steven? If so, did he know?
Did the landlord lock Steven out of his room due to non-payment of rent?
Is the landlord involved in anything unusual? Would he have put Steven at risk?

There is another person renting at the same house for some time.
What is he involved in and would he have put Steven at risk?

Was the trip to Ruby Valley just an odd trip or is there something else there?

Most of Steven's associates are members of the Young Singles Ward.
Is there anyone there who is hiding information that might help find Steven?

The man with the "fabulous smile" needs to return to his family.

I don't know which search sites you are using, but I have been using
www.123people.com recently to try to put individuals together.

Everything takes a long time, but I think it is worth it.

So many questions we've been asking since the beginning and here we are 3 months later with no answers.

Someone knows something that can help to find Steven. Why don't they speak up? Even anonymously? There's so little involvement from those who should be most heavily involved.

I don't get it. :waitasec:

 

[Fairy1]

I went back to Laytonian's fabulous timeline earlier and looked again at the pics of Steven from his ward's Christmas party. IMO, if you really look, he doesn't look heavier than "he" does in the SCA video. His clothes look a little baggy, but he's not heavy. Maybe he had already lost some weight???

What do ya'll think?

 

[dovebar]

While looking at what else was happening in Vegas just before and after Steven's disappearance, I noticed Metallica played Vegas on Dec. 5, then went to Sacramento on Dec. 8. They finished their U.S. tour dates on Dec. 12.

In Virginia, a few months earlier, a young woman disappeared at a Metallica concert. Her body was later found in a field brutally tortured, with multiple bones broken.

What if there is a serial killer or killers, spree killers, following this band and preying on vulnerable people in the area? Suppose the killers are based elsewhere, like VA, but follow the band, or decided to follow it to Vegas for the holiday break?

Look at this link, scroll through the other cases of missing people, and notice a missing young man who seems to have been enticed by two men dressed as soldiers (who apparently never came forward). And someone talking to the driver of a white car. Suppose a car was cruising, looking for a victim, and called Steven over to ask directions. A car with two people could easily manage to push someone into a van or car while the other person drove.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90862&page=14

 

[wannab1]

So many questions we've been asking since the beginning and here we are 3 months later with no answers.

Someone knows something that can help to find Steven. Why don't they speak up? Even anonymously? There's so little involvement from those who should be most heavily involved.

I don't get it. :waitasec:

The silence is deafening! I don't get it either...in the SP case people are tripping over themselves to say they knew her or something about her. Why would saying you attended the same Christmas party as Steven be controversial??? Why can't anyone verify something as simple as that?

 

[wannab1]

I went back to Laytonian's fabulous timeline earlier and looked again at the pics of Steven from his ward's Christmas party. IMO, if you really look, he doesn't look heavier than "he" does in the SCA video. His clothes look a little baggy, but he's not heavy. Maybe he had already lost some weight???

What do ya'll think?

I've looked at lots of pictures and personally, I have a hard time getting a handle on what his build actually is! He looks different to me in almost every picture! Do we know if his weight fluctuated? To me, he looks short and stocky in some pics, and tall and thin in others! I know there are discrepensies on his height on different fliers, etc. 5'8' isn't really all that tall, kind of average, but 5'10" really makes a difference...he looks like he could be either in some of the pics I've seen!

 

[Fairy1]

I've looked at lots of pictures and personally, I have a hard time getting a handle on what his build actually is! He looks different to me in almost every picture! Do we know if his weight fluctuated? To me, he looks short and stocky in some pics, and tall and thin in others! I know there are discrepensies on his height on different fliers, etc. 5'8' isn't really all that tall, kind of average, but 5'10" really makes a difference...he looks like he could be either in some of the pics I've seen!

ITA! The reason I was focusing on the Christmas party pics is because they were taken just a few days before Steven went missing.