GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #3

[jjenny]

JMO--I don't believe the point is moot, but we can agree to disagree. AFAIK, The suspect did have a relationship with this family while still a minor. The details of that relationship, even a couple of years ago, may have significant relevance.

My point is, if suspect was breaking laws as a minor he doesn't get a pass just because he was a minor.

 

[sonjay]

Per what suspect told his friends, he didn't even notice anybody shooting at him. But keep on spinning.

Are you saying that you think Brandon did not shoot at the silver car?

 

[newone]

That's so sad! Someone else in this threat commented that his small size looked like the result of being malnourished throughout his childhood. Now that we know he was abused as a baby, it's very possible he endured a lifetime of abuse.

I had found a quote that the had to ''take pills'' so that he could grow ((previous thread))....and that had raised questions for me.....there could be some profound undisclosed medical issues here....in tandem with skull fracture as an infant ...compounded with some issues emotional and psychological abuse .... too deep...BUT that does not allow a ''free pass'' for crime .....it does raise some interesting advocacy issues JMO

I am ''thinking''' (dangerous I realize) that he needs medical/professional attention

 

[sonjay]

My point is, if suspect was breaking laws as a minor he doesn't get a pass just because he was a minor.

Nobody said he does.

I think the point that was being made is that if TM was engaging in drug deals with EN when EN was a minor, it makes TM look bad.

 

[Gin]

My point is, if suspect was breaking laws as a minor he doesn't get a pass just because he was a minor.

Noted.

 

[jjenny]

Are you saying that you think Brandon did not shoot at the silver car?

No, I am saying it's highly unlikely Brandon shot at the car first, as suspect apparently didn't notice anyone shooting at him. Which would make sense if Brandon shot at the car as it was driving away. My guess he didn't even hit the car.

 

[Miss Muffet]

From the same link:
"But Nowsch's attorneys say they're investigating claims from witnesses that Meyers and Nowsch dealt prescription pills, and the shooting could have stemmed from a drug deal gone wrong."

So she dealt prescription pills too is the word on the street? Do I have that right?

Read the comments too... The lying family is overshadowing this case by a lot!

It's possible that the "Meyers and Nowsch dealt prescription drugs" refers to one-way transactions: Nowsch sells, TM buys. IMO, that phrasing doesn't necessarily mean that TM also sold. Although it could mean that. If you have an expensive prescription drug habit, what better way to pay for it than by becoming a dealer yourself?

It could have been a carefully crafted way of not incriminating his client or it could mean that they were both involved in drug dealing and it might be a supplier/distributer type relationship. We'll find out at the trial because this lawyer isn't going to recommend this client plead to a lesser charge because he wants this high profile case.

 

[sonjay]

No, I am saying it's highly unlikely Brandon shot at the car first, as suspect apparently didn't notice anyone shooting at him. Which would make sense if Brandon shot at the car as it was driving away. My guess he didn't even hit the car.

Oh, do things have to make sense now?

Because to believe any of the versions of the Meyers' story, you have to believe a lot of things that don't make sense.

 

[leah]

I wonder if the amount bob M talks is directly related to the amount of dirt that is going to come out about Tammy?

Or the dirt about the whole family. I'm sure they are trying to protect Tammy and family, but I personally wouldn't do it this way. Even if Tammy for whatever reason might have been buying drugs from EN, it's over, can't change it, so why make up stories? Guess I just don't play games, and think it is best to just get it out there, and maybe the family has to authorities. Maybe Tammy didn't really care anymore? Maybe buying pills got her through the day, and to hell what other people thought. I have no idea what Bob is really like, but just looking at him and listening to him, don't think it is easy living with him. There is an edge to him, he seems very disrespectful, someone I wouldn't want to be around. Not that it matters, just my observation.

 

[JaimeInLA]

No, I am saying it's highly unlikely Brandon shot at the car first, as suspect apparently didn't notice anyone shooting at him. Which would make sense if Brandon shot at the car as it was driving away. My guess he didn't even hit the car.

The bullet holes are in the DRIVER'S SIDE of the Audi. How could that happen as the car is driving away?

Also, why do you put so much weight on what EN told his friends, but completely ignore ear witnesses who say they heard 3 shots first, then squealing tires?

 

[Miss Muffet]

My point is, if suspect was breaking laws as a minor he doesn't get a pass just because he was a minor.

You're forgetting that a jury's opinion matters the most. Consider how few people in this thread hold your views, and you'll get a good idea of what the jury's mindset will be. There's going to be more people on that jury thinking like me than ones who view it as you do.

 

[Snoods]

has anyone figured out WHY there would be bullet holes in Driver's Side -- that would indicate to me that the shots were fired from driveway as vehicle was entering cul de sac--not leaving...MOO

To me this validates the theory that Brandon was indeed the initial shooter, firing three shoots at the approaching vehicle. Silver car turns around and with tires squealing drives away. EN fires several shots from the passenger window as they speed away.

This also matches with the one ear witness that has spoken out who heard three shots, tires squeal, then a couple more shots.

If this is true, Brandon's story continues to fall apart.

IMO

ETA: Jinx JaimiInLa I just read your almost identical post lol

 

[sonjay]

Does anyone know when Brandon moved back home?

Brandon's FB page, July 20, 2014 -- he was moving from one apartment to another.

Just less than a year ago he had his own apartment. Do we even know for sure that he was living with his parents when this happened?

 

[Miss Muffet]

I had found a quote that the had to ''take pills'' so that he could grow ((previous thread))....and that had raised questions for me.....there could be some profound undisclosed medical issues here....in tandem with skull fracture as an infant ...compounded with some issues emotional and psychological abuse .... too deep...BUT that does not allow a ''free pass'' for crime .....it does raise some interesting advocacy issues JMO

I'm not saying he is entitled to a free pass, but he very well might get what many people consider a free pass if the DA doesn't chose the best charges for the trial. Jurors might acquit because the DA is going for murder when they view this as manslaughter. Even if the charge remains murder, their empathy for EN via all this other information about his childhood and TM possibly involved illegally with him while he was a minor very well could influence their voting guilty or not guilty.

 

[jjenny]

Oh, do things have to make sense now?

Because to believe any of the versions of the Meyers' story, you have to believe a lot of things that don't make sense.

Suspect apparently won't even tell his lawyer what his story is, so you figure it out.

 

[jjenny]

To me this validates the theory that Brandon was indeed the initial shooter, firing three shoots at the approaching vehicle. Silver car turns around and with tires squealing drives away. EN fires several shots from the passenger window as they speed away.

This also matches with the one ear witness that has spoken out who heard three shots, tires squeal, then a couple more shots.

If this is true, Brandon's story continues to fall apart.

IMO

ETA: Jinx JaimiInLa I just read your almost identical post lol

I am sorry, but what witness claims about shots he supposedly heard (five shots total) doesn't match with a number of casings found at the scene.
So the witness is either accurate, or not. In this case, he is obviously not, because there were more than five casings found, and more than five shots fired. There was 10 casings found total (3 of 9 mm casings and 7 of .45 casings). As far as I learned to count, that's at least 10 shots fired, not five.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I can't find the comments at the end of that article either. :tantrum:

 

[SeeAlice]

No! Don't give up! We need you! We need everyone here. Each of us pick up on something the rest of us might have missed. Just today someone caught the son wearing a t-shirt for a drug cleansing product. I wouldn't have caught that if someone else didn't notice that! LOL

We posted a link to the product in the 1st thread (I thought) but darned if I can find any of that stuff now. It was worn in a daytime interview in front of the home, I think. T-shirt(s?) were black. Had name of the product & their shop.


Question for everyone: Who gets out in front of a story to control the narrative and why?

 

[Gin]

I can't find the comments at the end of that article either. :tantrum:

Hope I can help-Go to the end of the article, continue to scan down, past a few photos, keep scanning down, you should see them.

I have to zip out now, but will pop back into the thread later.

 

[jjenny]

The bullet holes are in the DRIVER'S SIDE of the Audi. How could that happen as the car is driving away?

Also, why do you put so much weight on what EN told his friends, but completely ignore ear witnesses who say they heard 3 shots first, then squealing tires?

You don't know if there are any bullet holes anywhere in any side of Audi. Audi has not been found.
So that is a very silly argument.
Witness who claim he heard 3 shots was way off on the number of shots fired. So maybe that's why I ignore his statement.