GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #6

[BellaVita]

I read that statement but he stopped and fired his weapon instead driving off. He could have done a number of things instead of firing his weapon in a residential neighborhood right near a school. He could have turned right on Alta and drove some place where he felt safer but he didn't. Maybe the Buick would have given up, who knows but I do know the Buick didn't shoot at the Audi.. and I do know the Buick went home right after the 1st shootout, and I do know the Audi then pursued them onto their street in a neighborhood where there could have been more damage done by all the firing EN claimed he did. Where did all the bullets go when he was firing? We know someone was killed from a one of the bullets EN fired.

How many times does it need repeated that BM flashed his gun and that's why EN shot at them.

How many times does it need repeated that according to his own testimony, BM attempted to load his gun and had difficulty operating his gun.

 

[SeeAlice]

Snipped & bolded by me

This kid would have murdered soon anyway, imo. He was already firing his weapon in the park. Shows he was trigger happy and irresponsible, imo.

By the same logic, one may also state that TM would have been killed soon anyway. She had some strange compulsion to follow people home to demand explanations and apologies after road rage incidents, even when the offending party was a known gang member. (This is according to her son, BM, in his March 17 media interview.)

JMO

 

[sonjay]

I can definitively state that all of these questions trying to defend the Meyers' foolish and malicious acts that night, and trying to condemn EN when he was primarily (possibly only) trying to get away from the people who were out to harm him, have forced me to read the arrest affidavit and the GJ testimony very closely. And every time I re-read those documents, I have become more firmly convinced that the Meyerses were the aggressors and EN was the intended victim that night.

 

[SeeAlice]

And at least EN has an excuse for his poor judgment: likely impaired executive brain function from the skull fracture when he was an infant, the suicide of his father when he was at an impressionable age, being a victim of bullying & threats, and drug use/self-medication.

I have not yet seen any reason/excuse for the poor judgment and irrational decisions of the other parties involved whose actions contributed to the unlikely and ultimately tragic chain of events of that night.

JMO

 

[sonjay]

And at least EN has an excuse for his poor judgment: likely impaired executive brain function from the skull fracture when he was an infant, the suicide of his father when he was at an impressionable age, being a victim of bullying & threats, and drug use/self-medication.

Not to mention being threatened by people stalking him, pointing a gun at him and chasing him in their car.

I have not yet seen any reason/excuse for the poor judgment and irrational decisions of the other parties involved whose actions contributed to the unlikely and ultimately tragic chain of events of that night.

I see only excuses for their behavior, and a lot of pretending that they did nothing wrong.

 

[LancelotLink]

Any link showing EN shot his gun in the park would be grealty appreciated.

 

[SeeAlice]

Was Tammy's blood found inside the car?

I have read that she died in the street and other times in the driveway or the yard, but the only evidence placing her in the car that night is that the contents of her purse were found inside, correct?

Maybe she wasn't in the car at all. Maybe she was trying to stop her son from doing something stupid. Maybe she walked out in the street between BrM and EN but EN never saw her?

IDK. I just think her family does her terrible injustice with their statements and I can't for the life of me imagine why.

JMO

 

[sonjay]

Any link showing EN shot his gun in the park would be grealty appreciated.

I don't have a link, but there's a rumor that EN had shot his gun in the park some days prior to the TM shooting. There's been no suggestion, rumor, claim, innuendo or other implication or assertion that he shot his gun in the park that night.

 

[SStarr33]

Was Tammy's blood found inside the car?

I have read that she died in the street and other times in the driveway or the yard, but the only evidence placing her in the car that night is that the contents of her purse were found inside, correct?

Maybe she wasn't in the car at all. Maybe she was trying to stop her son from doing something stupid. Maybe she walked out in the street between BrM and EN but EN never saw her?

IDK. I just think her family does her terrible injustice with their statements and I can't for the life of me imagine why.

JMO

Here is the GJ PDF so you can read what happened:

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf

 

[SeeAlice]

Any link showing EN shot his gun in the park would be grealty appreciated.

Stan may have made that claim to the Daily Mail. (I personally find his stories incredible, but that's JMO.)

 

[SStarr33]

How many times does it need repeated that BM flashed his gun and that's why EN shot at them.

How many times does it need repeated that according to his own testimony, BM attempted to load his gun and had difficulty operating his gun.

Thank God he didn't try to shoot, because that little could have blown him away too.

 

[SStarr33]

I just went back once again and read the GJ transcript where Gogg talked about what EN said to him after the 1st shooting. EN didn't say he was going home, in fact Gogg was the one who mentioned how EN drove and the location of his house. EN didn't tell Gogg he was going home, he simply said I headed westbound on Alta towards Cimarron. Now, if EN was really wanting to go home, he could have taken the short cut: Alta, Carmel Peak, Cherry River but the time he mentioned the short cut was after he saw the Buick driving onto Mt. Shasta. Was EN really going home or was he heading some place else?

EN started blasting away at them when he was half way down Mt Shasta. Little was not trying to get to his house.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Any link showing EN shot his gun in the park would be grealty appreciated.

Daily Mail Online has now learned from a resident in the Las Vegas suburb, where both the victim and the suspect lived, that Nowsch had taken his gun to Ansan Park, a hot spot for local gangs, last week.

Jenica, 19, who is heavily pregnant, told Daily Mail Online that she used to hang out with Eric, who is also known as Baby G, before he started showing off the weapon.

She said: 'We used to chill at the park and lots of people used to come over there. He was usually on a skateboard. He talked about his homies and he talked about gangs.

'He was showing his gun off - he shot it in the park in the middle of the night last week.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...teen-suspect-fired-gun-park-days-killing.html

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Was Tammy's blood found inside the car?

I have read that she died in the street and other times in the driveway or the yard, but the only evidence placing her in the car that night is that the contents of her purse were found inside, correct?

Maybe she wasn't in the car at all. Maybe she was trying to stop her son from doing something stupid. Maybe she walked out in the street between BrM and EN but EN never saw her?

IDK. I just think her family does her terrible injustice with their statements and I can't for the life of me imagine why.

JMO

She was outside the car someplace:

Q. What -- do you believe that she was shot
while sitting in her car or was she outside the vehicle?
A. She was outside of her vehicle.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

What is there to understand? If you read the GJ transcript, it is explained. I've copied and pasted many times. Do you read all the posts here or just some?Also, EN did not know it was the M's.

I don't take the word of a murderer as being fact. JMO.

 

[sonjay]

I don't take the word of a murderer as being fact. JMO.

In this case, the alleged murder has been more truthful than the alleged victims.

I wonder why that is?

 

[sonjay]

EN started blasting away at them when he was half way down Mt Shasta. Little was not trying to get to his house.

The only source for that bit of alleged information is BM — a known liar.

The "little " was on the wrong side of the car to start blasting away when the Audi was halfway down Mt. Shasta.

You gotta be careful about believing the word of a known liar. Their lies are often incompatible with the facts.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I don't take the word of a murderer as being fact. JMO.

That's a bit of a Cretan Liar Paradox then

 

[Deleted member 39678]

He really DID want to use it. His own testimony says so. I won't copy it here again. Here is the link:

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf



What good reason would there be to look for the car? Can you acknowledge how foolhardy it was? And who said the car was after them when they spotted it? Not TM! Whoever said it, I'd like a link.

BBM

Chambering a round does not necessarily mean you want to shoot. Pulling the trigger does. There's no testimony saying that Brandon pulled the trigger of his gun while in the car. JMO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

That's a bit of a Cretan Liar Paradox then

Never heard of that. I'll look it up. LOL