GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #7

[Miss Muffet]

Which version?

I recall early on, a reporter asked LVDA about all of the stories. His response was something along the lines of the jury will only be making decisions on what's presented in court. That means he only intends to present one story.

Most of the stories came from RM. There are only two stories coming from KM and BM---the first story in the media and LVDA's latest version. As far as we know, there isn't anything in police documents about KM and BM's first story. Even LVPD's latest story saying two different cars and two different incidents isn't really a change of story but a clarification of story that's coming from LVDA, not KM and BM. There is no way for KM and BM to know if they were two different cars and two different incidents since neither of them were present both times.

My point is there won't be a billion stories presented in court, and I'll bet LVDA intends to prevent other stories from being admissible. Let's review the very first story. Is there anything showing KM and BM stating there was no first shooting scene? I believe only LVPD makes those statements in the media. Can LVPD say they purposely withheld information about the first shooting scene as a key piece of information to help identify the killer? IIRC, the first shooting scene is used to verify the statements of KK and ZA in the warrant.

 

[PaperDoll]

Given what we know now, what will this trial look like?
IMO, prosecution can't call KM because she would have to testify about the road rage, giving the defense the opportunity to rip her story to shreds. They can't call BM because he will have to explain why he went out to find the road rager and the defense will rip his testimony to shreds. If I were the defense, I would pound that all roads led to EN and the park. Thoughts?

Do we have all the facts on the road rage theory if there actually was one or not? For all we know it could be two separate events that happened that night. :crazy:

 

[PaperDoll]

Which version?

I would think they would go with the version in the police report. I'm still wondering if there is a police report taken the actual night of the 12th and early morning of the 13th that hasn't been released, I would love to read that one..

 

[Miss Muffet]

For all we know it could be two separate events that happened that night. :crazy:

This is a perfect example of why the saying "Lightening never strikes twice" exists.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I would think they would go with the version in the police report. I'm still wondering if there is a police report taken the actual night of the 12th and early morning of the 13th that hasn't been released, I would love to read that one..

I do for instance want to know if the original location given for the accident was near the intersection of Alta and Buffalo

 

[Miss Muffet]

Someone posted they heard that the grand jury transcript for DA would be published today. Where did they hear that? Any idea where it will be published?

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Someone posted they heard that the grand jury transcript for DA would be published today. Where did they hear that? Any idea where it will be published?

It came from Castelan: https://twitter.com/CastelanTV/status/581840298948435968

 

[Miss Muffet]

It came from Castelan: https://twitter.com/CastelanTV/status/581840298948435968

He'll probably spoon feed us via quoting it in newscasts for days before the whole transcript is published. That means we'll only get his interpretation of it until we see it for ourselves.

 

[sonjay]

I would think they would go with the version in the police report. I'm still wondering if there is a police report taken the actual night of the 12th and early morning of the 13th that hasn't been released, I would love to read that one..

I'm positive there was a police report the night of the 12th or early morning on the 13th (probably the 13th, given how late on the 12th the shooting occurred). There were multiple 911 calls, shootings in two separate locations, and a woman shot in the head and rushed to the hospital. How could there not be a police report? Just because it hasn't been made public doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[sonjay]

I recall early on, a reporter asked LVDA about all of the stories. His response was something along the lines of the jury will only be making decisions on what's presented in court. That means he only intends to present one story.

Most of the stories came from RM. There are only two stories coming from KM and BM---the first story in the media and LVDA's latest version. As far as we know, there isn't anything in police documents about KM and BM's first story. Even LVPD's latest story saying two different cars and two different incidents isn't really a change of story but a clarification of story that's coming from LVDA, not KM and BM. There is no way for KM and BM to know if they were two different cars and two different incidents since neither of them were present both times.

BBM. There was whatever story KM & BM told the night of the shooting or early the following day -- I guarantee there's a police report on that. Then there will be police reports and possibly recordings of subsequent interviews with BM & KM as police tried to nail down the details. We have no idea how many subsequent interviews there were with each of them. Then there was the arrest affidavit, and then the GJ testimony.

My point is there won't be a billion stories presented in court, and I'll bet LVDA intends to prevent other stories from being admissible. Let's review the very first story.

I'll repeat: however much of the conflicting stories the prosecution doesn't present, the defense will. Yes, there will be a billion stories presented in court. (Okay, maybe not a billion, but a lot.)

Is there anything showing KM and BM stating there was no first shooting scene?

No, of course not. They would have had no reason whatsoever to say "There was no first shooting scene." But I'm 100% positive there's an initial police report from the 12th/13th with KM's & BM's stories in which neither of them mentions a first shooting scene. In fact, the initial police report undoubtedly notes that the silver car followed TM & KM home and shot TM and that BM came out of the house to return fire.

There probably aren't as many "official" versions as there are unofficial versions. Many of the unofficial versions are from RM running his mouth, and that's not police report material, since he wasn't even there. But I'm sure there's at least an initial police report and probably at least one subsequent interview with both KM & TM. Plus the arrest affidavit and the GJ testimony.

 

[jjenny]

This is a perfect example of why the saying "Lightening never strikes twice" exists.

While that saying exists, it's clearly wrong.
"To put another spin on "lightning strikes twice," NASA also released a document in 2003 pointing out that the same lightning strike often strikes twice, or even three times, in fact the average "strike" hits 1.45 places on earth."

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/myth-lightning-never-strikes-twice/19890

 

[SpanishInquisition]

While that saying exists, it's clearly wrong.
"To put another spin on "lightning strikes twice," NASA also released a document in 2003 pointing out that the same lightning strike often strikes twice, or even three times, in fact the average "strike" hits 1.45 places on earth."

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/myth-lightning-never-strikes-twice/19890

Yes, the Meyers do have a Roy Sullivan quality about them.

 

[Deleted member 50844]

Aha! It just hit me. Every time I've watched Bob Meyers speak, he reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on who. I just realized its John Mark Byers of the West Memphis Three case.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Aha! It just hit me. Every time I've watched Bob Meyers speak, he reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on who. I just realized its John Mark Byers of the West Memphis Three case.

I'm not familiar with the case. What was the ultimate end result of John's personality?

 

[Deleted member 50844]

I don't believe it had an impact on the actual case except his contribution to keeping it a media circus, with him as head clown. He wasn't telling lies, just stating his opinions and calling for blood in the media every chance he got. In was a very different kind of case than this one is. Three young boys were brutally murdered with a mutilation aspect to the murders. Three young men were convicted and spent years in prison before being freed via the Alford Plea. A very interesting and tragic case, there are many documentaries and YouTube videos on it.

 

[Snoods]

I do for instance want to know if the original location given for the accident was near the intersection of Alta and Buffalo

Yes, you are correct. The accident location given by KM was the intersection of South Buffalo Dr and Alta Dr. I remember this from the maps I did of all the driving routes. (Posted in the media and timelines thread).

Aha! It just hit me. Every time I've watched Bob Meyers speak, he reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on who. I just realized its John Mark Byers of the West Memphis Three case.

Oh my gosh, you're right! He sure does, doesn't he?

 

[Snoods]

Yes, the Meyers do have a Roy Sullivan quality about them.

Lol! I had to google Roy Sullivan. For anyone else that isn't familiar with the unlucky (or lucky?) Roy Sullivan:

Forty-one years after his debut in the “Guinness Book of World Records,” Ranger Roy Sullivan continues to hold the dubious distinction of being struck by lightning more than any known person. Not twice. Not three times.

Seven times.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...7cf2d8-ea40-11e2-8f22-de4bd2a2bd39_story.html

 

[sonjay]

Lightning does indeed sometimes strike twice in the same place.

Nevertheless, the odds are against the notion that the Meyerses coincidentally mixed it up with two separate but similar grey 4-door sedans on the night of Feb. 12.

 

[PaperDoll]

Yes, you are correct. The accident location given by KM was the intersection of South Buffalo Dr and Alta Dr. I remember this from the maps I did of all the driving routes. (Posted in the media and timelines thread).



Oh my gosh, you're right! He sure does, doesn't he?

Where does it say that the accident location was at the intersection of South Buffalo and Alta?

 

[SeeAlice]

Why a "50 minute" driving lesson? Unusual detail, seems like.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/suspected-getaway-driver-tammy-meyers-death-gets-lawyer