GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #7

[SStarr33]

Then he fits right in with the other players in this case. I have less sympathy for him than I do for EN. From what we know (and again, I use that term loosely) DA wasn't, at least in the beginning, being pursued by people with a gun. Did it say if his mom confirmed that he was home in bed and then went to the aid of his friend? I didn't see that stated. I, too, think his goose is cooked.

The Meyers family lied so their dad would not be mad at them. World of difference.

 

[SStarr33]

I still haven't seen the PDF posted. Does anyone know what the significance is of 10:30-11:00 PM, particularly why Andrews should have been communicating with EN then? BBM:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-mom-he-wasn-t-involved-tammy-meyers-shooting

I think it means there was no phone activity because they were together

 

[newone]

The Meyers family lied so their dad would not be mad at them. World of difference.

I have given a lot of weight to that possibility and the one that kids cover their hind ends when dealing with ''events''. MOO & IME

 

[Miss Muffet]

I have given a lot of weight to that possibility and the one that kids cover their hind ends when dealing with ''events''. MOO & IME

These are grown children fully capable of physically overpowering their father. I can't imagine a 20some adult male being afraid of physical punishment. Those Meyers boys aren't lacking muscles. We also have DA telling his mother he wasn't involved when she asked him if he was.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Looking forward to the Derrick Andrews GJ testimony pdf. Hope we don't have to wait for long.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I think it means there was no phone activity because they were together

That would mean that EN was sitting in the car for 20 minutes before the Meyers left, which doesn't match with what either EN or KM said and they might as well have said 11:30 PM - actually they'd better not have been talking/texting with one another on the cell between 11:00 and 11:20 as that would make no sense. The testimony is that EN got into the car after the Buick left, which the Meyers said they left at around 10:50. However, in the Complaint KM said that she left the school to drive around the neighborhood and then she returned back to the school - are you saying that EN got in the car at a time when KM swore before the GJ she was at the school but in the Complaint said that they had left and come back and that EN didn't notice them the second time and the Meyers some other person in the park? If the Meyers were wrong and they left around 10:30 instead of 10:50 what were the doing during all that time leading up to the shooting when KM and BM said it was just a relatively quick thing with TM in the car as KM went inside - was TM sitting in her car for 40 minutes?

The more relevant time for lack of phone usage is 11:00-11:30 PM as that's around the time of the shooting, unless of course if the shooting took place an hour earlier and there was a long delay between the shooting and calling 911, but I don't think that's it. 10:30-11:00 just isn't a relevant timeframe on the events we've been given so far, unless they're now saying Andrews was the road rager as that would be the only thing that was possibly covered within that timeframe.

 

[newone]

These are grown children fully capable of physically overpowering their father. I can't imagine a 20some adult male being afraid of physical punishment. Those Meyers boys aren't lacking muscles. We also have DA telling his mother he wasn't involved when she asked him if he was.

you're right (part bolded by me) but they also may be ''protecting ''little'' (loosely) sister'' -- jmo who sets off my hincky meter big time

 

[SStarr33]

That would mean that EN was sitting in the car for 20 minutes before the Meyers left, which doesn't match with what either EN or KM said and they might as well have said 11:30 PM - actually they'd better not have been talking/texting with one another on the cell between 11:00 and 11:20 as that would make no sense. The testimony is that EN got into the car after the Buick left, which the Meyers said they left at around 10:50. However, in the Complaint KM said that she left the school to drive around the neighborhood and then she returned back to the school - are you saying that EN got in the car at a time when KM swore before the GJ she was at the school but in the Complaint said that they had left and come back and that EN didn't notice them the second time and the Meyers some other person in the park? If the Meyers were wrong and they left around 10:30 instead of 10:50 what were the doing during all that time leading up to the shooting when KM and BM said it was just a relatively quick thing with TM in the car as KM went inside - was TM sitting in her car for 40 minutes?

Whoa, no comprendo. I've moved onto other cases since they didn't release the GJ transcript and have forgotten the deets. Really, it was a flippant post just going off what I thought the reporter was trying to imply. Sorry.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Really, it was a flippant post just going off what I thought the reporter was trying to imply. Sorry.

I gotta thank you for admitting the bolded.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Whoa, no comprendo. I've moved onto other cases since they didn't release the GJ transcript and have forgotten the deets. Really, it was a flippant post just going off what I thought the reporter was trying to imply. Sorry.

No prob. I'm just really trying to make sense of it and by all means throw stuff out as the best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas.

 

[sonjay]

The Meyers family lied so their dad would not be mad at them. World of difference.

And I've gotta thank you for admitting the bolded.

 

[sonjay]

No prob. I'm just really trying to make sense of it and by all means throw stuff out as the best way to have a good idea is to have lots of ideas.

Trying to make sense out of nonsense is a Sisyphean task. The Meyers' story has been a hot, steaming pile of nonsense from day one. I only hope the full truth is brought to light during the trial.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I still haven't seen the PDF posted. Does anyone know what the significance is of 10:30-11:00 PM, particularly why Andrews should have been communicating with EN then? BBM:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-mom-he-wasn-t-involved-tammy-meyers-shooting

That's a new article, not the one I read that PD posted earlier. I'm guessing LVDA is implying that Andrews didn't receive a phone call from EN around 11 PM like Andrews claimed.

The part about sleeping and someone might have taken his phone makes perfect sense to me. I often borrow my children's phones while they're sleeping and return them later.

Honestly, the article is so poorly written I'm not going to trust that journalist's interpretation of the GJ testimony.

The following makes no sense whatsoever:

"Andrews’ phone records show calls and text messages to a “friend without benefits” named Leah Brewer early on Feb. 13.

“Had somebody taken his phone, they wouldn’t be calling his friend,” Mogg testified."

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I gotta thank you for admitting the bolded.

What Star said could be very valid, just there could be a lot of implications if there was. I don't think it's impossible that what was in the original Complaint was true that KM left the school for some period of time and then returned, but during that period is when EN got in the Buick rather than when the Buick left what would have been the second time. The major problems I run into with any scenario is the length of time people are supposedly sitting in their cars - whether it be EN or TM - and I'm not really finding anything that fits. Just under the existing scenario even with a road rage included, it still seems like TM was supposedly out sitting in her car for an awfully long time before going back out. I haven't really heard any scenario that quite fits, so random other scenarios can help mix things up into something that will work.

 

[SStarr33]

It really is a bunch of crap that the media can get those transcripts and they are not available to the public.

 

[Miss Muffet]

At least we now know DA is claiming he picked him up at 7am ---apparently from near KK and ZA's apartment. That part of his testimony matches theirs.

 

[Miss Muffet]

It really is a bunch of crap that the media can get those transcripts and they are not available to the public.

The problem is the media hasn't released them. If they're available to the media, they are available to anyone.

Someone just has to go get them. Maybe someone in Vegas will make a trip down and do that.

 

[SStarr33]

The problem is the media hasn't released them. If they're available to the media, they are available to anyone.

Someone just has to go get them. Maybe someone in Vegas will make a trip down and do that.

Once the govt releases the info it should go to all public, not just the media

 

[Miss Muffet]

Once the govt releases the info it should go to all public, not just the media

It is. You're welcome to go pick up a copy of the transcript.

There's probably a fee, but it's available to anyone who requests one.

 

[jjenny]

That's a new article, not the one I read that PD posted earlier. I'm guessing LVDA is implying that Andrews didn't receive a phone call from EN around 11 PM like Andrews claimed.

The part about sleeping and someone might have taken his phone makes perfect sense to me. I often borrow my children's phones while they're sleeping and return them later.

Honestly, the article is so poorly written I'm not going to trust that journalist's interpretation of the GJ testimony.

The following makes no sense whatsoever:

"Andrews’ phone records show calls and text messages to a “friend without benefits” named Leah Brewer early on Feb. 13.

“Had somebody taken his phone, they wouldn’t be calling his friend,” Mogg testified."

The desire to get these suspects off must be overwhelming for some posters here. Who is going to borrow his phone and return is later? He is living with his mother, and I really don't think she was the one borrowing his phone and then going to Meyers neighborhood with it.