GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #8

[sonjay]

I know everything is saying the 2/15 now, which was my purpose in showing that it had first been reported as being on 2/14. I'd really want to know if the reporter who first reported it got it right, but I'd expect a reporter to catch the difference between Saturday and Sunday and not misreport something like that. If we have both changing days and changing participants this reminds me of the whole road rage again, especially with the delayed witnesses.

Maybe it was originally reported as having happened on 2/15, but then it was discovered that EN had been picked up by police on 2/15, so it had to be changed to 2/14.

 

[SeeAlice]

I know everything is saying the 2/15 now, which was my purpose in showing that it had first been reported as being on 2/14. I'd really want to know if the reporter who first reported it got it right, but I'd expect a reporter to catch the difference between Saturday and Sunday and not misreport something like that. If we have both changing days and changing participants this reminds me of the whole road rage again, especially with the delayed witnesses.

I bet they hate it when victims can't recall the correct dates. Or who was in the car doing what.

 

[Midge Montana]

I just noticed this where the thing with the daughter and two friends is alleged to have happened on 2/14 rather than 2/15 though it is possible the reporter got it wrong, BBM:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...f-suspect-road-rage-shooting-mother-four.html
I'm also wondering if the Seligs are one of the witnesses as nothing from the prior earlier anonymous story about the knife incident precludes the later sourced incident mentioned by Selig as being the same event:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nned-19-year-old-said-buying-Xanax-years.html
This really makes me want to know what was said to LE the day of the event when the alleged victim and presumably his sister failed to ID EN.

Must be that EN hypnotizes everyone to not remember who he is for some lapse of time. Then poof they can recognize him.

 

[Midge Montana]

I know everything is saying the 2/15 now, which was my purpose in showing that it had first been reported as being on 2/14. I'd really want to know if the reporter who first reported it got it right, but I'd expect a reporter to catch the difference between Saturday and Sunday and not misreport something like that. If we have both changing days and changing participants this reminds me of the whole road rage again, especially with the delayed witnesses.

Another "Who's on First?" tentacle to this case???

 

[Solitaryone]

I wonder which of the various neighborhood characters are the road raging gang member & his wife whom TM had allegedly followed home to lecture about his road raging?

All this talk about gangs makes me wonder if there are certain adults in this neighborhood connected to Alta/Alpha Block Gang?

 

[sonjay]

Must be that EN hypnotizes everyone to not remember who he is for some lapse of time. Then poof they can recognize him.

Sort of like a neuralyzer from Men in Black? But the effect wears off after a while.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Sort of like a neuralyzer from Men in Black?

I love that movie!

 

[SeeAlice]

All this talk about gangs makes me wonder if there are certain adults in this neighborhood connected to Alta/Alpha Block Gang?

Or created it. In their own minds. While drunk on a Saturday night.

JMO

 

[Solitaryone]

Or created it. In their own minds. While drunk on a Saturday night.

JMO

Ya' know, I thought the same thing quite awhile back in this case!

 

[Snoods]

Must be that EN hypnotizes everyone to not remember who he is for some lapse of time. Then poof they can recognize him.

Lol. IMO EN is a very unique looking individual, both in his height/weight and general looks/appearance. According to Stan and RM EN had practically been holding the neighborhood under criminal siege. However, none of the kids involved in the knifing incident were able to identify EN as the shanker, not even in a lineup, until after he hit the news/SM, correct?

All these different road rage attacks happening to TM with interchangeable suspects and vehicles, now this?

 

[Snoods]

Updated: Prosecutorial involved/possibly involved vehicle roulette wheel:

 

[SeeAlice]

Lol. IMO EN is a very unique looking individual, both in his height/weight and general looks/appearance. According to Stan and RM EN had practically been holding the neighborhood under criminal siege. However, none of the kids involved in the knifing incident were able to identify EN as the shanker, not even in a lineup, until after he hit the news/SM, correct?

All these different road rage attacks happening to TM with interchangeable suspects and vehicles, now this?

He is! Almost elfin-like. Seems like it would have been at least as noticeable as his "hazel eyes."

JMO

 

[Snoods]

He is! Almost elfin-like. Seems like it would have been at least as noticeable as his "hazel eyes."

JMO

Ha! You'd think, right?

 

[Snoods]

All this talk about gangs makes me wonder if there are certain adults in this neighborhood connected to Alta/Alpha Block Gang?

No kidding! The lesser known Geritol Block. Strangest neighborhood ever. It seems almost incestuous with everyone up in everyone else's business, but then oddly neighbors don't recognize each other...

 

[sonjay]

Lol. IMO EN is a very unique looking individual, both in his height/weight and general looks/appearance. According to Stan and RM EN had practically been holding the neighborhood under criminal siege. However, none of the kids involved in the knifing incident were able to identify EN as the shanker, not even in a lineup, until after he hit the news/SM, correct?

All these different road rage attacks happening to TM with interchangeable suspects and vehicles, now this?

That would seem to be correct.

Which gives the defense ammunition for raising "reasonable doubt" in the knife incident.

It almost seems as if these people accusing EN of all these heinous acts don't actually want him convicted of anything. Odd.

 

[jjenny]

That would seem to be correct.

Which gives the defense ammunition for raising "reasonable doubt" in the knife incident.

It almost seems as if these people accusing EN of all these heinous acts don't actually want him convicted of anything. Odd.

No, it wouldn't seem to be correct. I haven't seen any information on which date EN was identified by the children as the one who held a knife to a throat of a 13 year old.

 

[LancelotLink]

Apologies if this has been discussed. On reading the article linked previously, I noticed this:

One local, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution, told Daily Mail Online: 'He's known by the police gang unit. He represents a gang, he says he's not with them any more, but he has access to weapons, his friends have weapons.
'Three months ago when I confronted this kid at the park he tried to pull a gun on me. And I jumped on him and got his backpack away from me.'
The man says the suspect fits the description of the person wanted in connection with Meyers' death.'That day [in the park] that silver car showed up, it's a white boy, he's young he's got blonde crew cut hair. It fits. 'The story fits, because they're all young punks in a gang called Alpha Block.'
The man's wife, who also asked not to be named, said she spoke with detectives yesterday because the suspect had put a knife to her daughter and her two friends on Saturday.
'He's a punk, a 20-year-old punk,' she said. 'He's come after my son three or four times. My husband's gone after him to tell him to leave our kids alone.*

BBM
Hard to tell when they said what is bolded. After the 14th, but before article was posted on 19th, updated 20th.
So, are they trying to prop up the road rage sketch guy as real in the face of mounting evidence of the opposite or are they eye witnesses to the road rage guy?

 

[sonjay]

Apologies if this has been discussed. On reading the article linked previously, I noticed this:

One local, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution, told Daily Mail Online: 'He's known by the police gang unit. He represents a gang, he says he's not with them any more, but he has access to weapons, his friends have weapons.
'Three months ago when I confronted this kid at the park he tried to pull a gun on me. And I jumped on him and got his backpack away from me.'
The man says the suspect fits the description of the person wanted in connection with Meyers' death.'That day [in the park] that silver car showed up, it's a white boy, he's young he's got blonde crew cut hair. It fits. 'The story fits, because they're all young punks in a gang called Alpha Block.'
The man's wife, who also asked not to be named, said she spoke with detectives yesterday because the suspect had put a knife to her daughter and her two friends on Saturday.
'He's a punk, a 20-year-old punk,' she said. 'He's come after my son three or four times. My husband's gone after him to tell him to leave our kids alone.*

BBM
Hard to tell when they said what is bolded. After the 14th, but before article was posted on 19th, updated 20th.
So, are they trying to prop up the road rage sketch guy as real in the face of mounting evidence of the opposite or are they eye witnesses to the road rage guy?

The bolded part doesn't make any sense.

That statement could only have been said to a reporter on or after EN was arrested on Feb. 19 — because before that, no reporter knew to talk to any neighbors about EN.

That was also at a time when the story (as put forth by the Meyerses) was that the "road rage suspect" was also the shooting suspect. It appears to me that the neighbor was just trying to uphold the story that was generally believed at the time.

EN "the suspect" never fit any description or sketch that was ever circulated in connection with TM's death. Anyone who has seen EN and has seen the sketch or read the description would know that the suspect most decidedly did not match the description.

This neighbor is blowing smoke.

This is part of why I'm also unwilling to accept the knife story at face value. These people seem to think that they can just say whatever they want and the actual truth doesn't matter.

 

[SeeAlice]

If I'm reading this correctly I think EN has a court appearance today for the knife incident.

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So did anything happen with this yesterday? (Do you mind pointing me to the correct site to find it, Paper Doll?)

 

[PaperDoll]

SeeAlice :blowkiss: here is the link:

https://www.clarkcountycourts.us/Anonymous/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=11579476

Cross-Reference Case Number: C304831
Grand Jury Case Number: 14BGJ044X

Hope this helps