GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #8

[Deleted member 39678]

From reading posts on this thread I get the impression that Tammy Meyers and nearly everyone associated with this case did something wrong including her family, doctor, police and prosecutors. I find that interesting.

Personally, I'm more interested in the actions of Erich Nowsch and his accomplice Derrick Andrews. I'm looking forward to learn more about them and why they did what they did. JMO.

 

[al66pine]

You don't take anyone's statements at face value. You would collect all evidence - particularly once you're doing a murder investigation - instead of reaching your conclusion first and then looking for the evidence later, like regardless ....

. sbm

Yes, exactly.
LE should not take such stmts at face value, but it appears to me, that's what they did.
JM2cts.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

From reading posts on this thread I get the impression that Tammy Meyers and nearly everyone associated with this case did something wrong including her family, doctor, police and prosecutors. I find that interesting.

Personally, I'm more interested in the actions of Erich Nowsch and his accomplice Derrick Andrews. I'm looking forward to learn more about them and why they did what they did. JMO.

Those things you list can't be separated from one another, depending on what actually happened. One thing for instance that answered a lot of questions about EN and him not associating the Buick with the Meyers after the shooting is that by looking at the diagram and paying close attention to BM, it would appear to EN that BM (who EN didn't know) was going to another house rather than the Meyers house. For a long time everyone thought BM ran behind a truck in the Meyers driveway but instead it turned out to be a vehicle parked by another house. To explain someone's actions you have to look at what is going on around them rather than tune it out.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Those things you list can't be separated from one another, depending on what actually happened. One thing for instance that answered a lot of questions about EN and him not associating the Buick with the Meyers after the shooting is that by looking at the diagram and paying close attention to BM, it would appear to EN that BM (who EN didn't know) was going to another house rather than the Meyers house. For a long time everyone thought BM ran behind a truck in the Meyers driveway but instead it turned out to be a vehicle parked by another house. To explain someone's actions you have to look at what is going on around them rather than tune it out.

I'm not separating anything and I'm not tuning anything out.

Why would Brandon running away in a certain direction make Erich not recognize the Buick? I don't understand that statement.

 

[al66pine]

.... Personally, I'm more interested in the actions of Erich Nowsch and his accomplice Derrick Andrews. I'm looking forward to learn more about them and why they did what they did. JMO.

sbm

Me too.
Seems curious that EN had not been driving. License suspended or revoked?
Hard for me to imagine 20-ish dude living in (suburban?) area like that, w no car.
Public transport there? Not like NYC or San Francisco.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

sbm

Me too.
Seems curious that EN had not been driving. License suspended or revoked?
Hard for me to imagine 20-ish dude living in (suburban?) area like that, w no car.
Public transport there? Not like NYC or San Francisco.

That seems unusual to me also. Maybe no license so he did favors or paid people to chauffeur him around. JMO.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I'm not separating anything and I'm not tuning anything out.
Why would Brandon running away in a certain direction make Erich not recognize the Buick? I don't understand that statement.

You don't understand that statement because it isn't one I made. What I had said is that BM (who EN didn't know) going toward another house would cause EN not to associate the Buick with the Meyers. That would explain why he wanted to KK to do news searches and why he didn't know who the other party was.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

You don't understand that statement because it isn't one I made. What I had said is that BM (who EN didn't know) going toward another house would cause EN not to associate the Buick with the Meyers. That would explain why he wanted to KK to do news searches and why he didn't know who the other party was.

Sorry. Your post still doesn't make any sense to me.

Why would Brandon "going toward another house" cause Erich to think the Buick was not associated with Meyers when it stopped in front of their house?

 

[Meddlesome Kid]

I know plenty of people who are of legal age to drive and do not have license for all kinds of reasons.

 

[Meddlesome Kid]

It's extremely doubtful that TM received Oxyanything at the hospital. NO Oxy pre-fixed drug is meant to be injected and she would not have been able to swallow a pill at the time. Nor is Oxyanything used to induce a coma nor treat an acute or major head/brain injury.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I know plenty of people who are of legal age to drive and do not have license for all kinds of reasons.

That's true. I have a niece who's in her thirty's that never learned to drive.

I still would like to know why Erich needed people to drive him around.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Sorry. Your post still doesn't make any sense to me.

Why would Brandon "going toward another house" cause Erich to think the Buick was not associated with Meyers when it stopped in front of their house?

Because BM was going towards another house and the car actually was in the street in front of both houses. If you have a better explanation for KK's testimony to explain what EN told KK about how he wanted the news search done, that he didn't know who it was and who broadly he thought was involved, I'm certainly all ears as so far there's been no explanation for this seemingly strange situation and I don't think anyone has questioned KK's accuracy on this. For a long time it seemed really weird when the thinking on here was that BM ran behind a vehicle in the Meyer's own driveway, but this is the only thing that makes a lick of sense to me now knowing that BM ran behind a vehicle in front of someone else's house.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

It's extremely doubtful that TM received Oxyanything at the hospital. NO Oxy pre-fixed drug is meant to be injected and she would not have been able to swallow a pill at the time. Nor is Oxyanything used to induce a coma nor treat an acute or major head/brain injury.

What they're actually saying is that she could have received valium at the hospital while the oxycodone is part of her prescription.

 

[octobermoon]

What they're actually saying is that she could have received valium at the hospital while the oxycodone is part of her prescription.

I am thinking she didn't receive valium in the hospital. It would be a simple thing to verify, hippa laws don't apply anymore and the DA must have her med records by now. I could be wrong, tho. Don't get why they left that hanging out there for the rumor mill.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Because BM was going towards another house and the car actually was in the street in front of both houses. If you have a better explanation for KK's testimony to explain what EN told KK about how he wanted the news search done and who he thought was involved, I'm certainly all ears as so far there's been no explanation for this seemingly strange situation and I don't think anyone has questioned KK's accuracy on this. For a long time it seemed really weird when the thinking on here was that BM ran behind a vehicle in the Meyer's own driveway, but this is the only thing that makes a lick of sense to me now knowing that BM ran behind a vehicle in front of someone else's house.

I have no explanation why Erich claimed what he did. Maybe he made things up and lied about certain things. The things he said that are consistent with the evidence are believable. Like shooting Tammy Meyers. JMO.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I have no explanation why Erich claimed what he did. Maybe he made things up and lied about certain things. The things he said that are consistent with the evidence are believable. Like shooting Tammy Meyers. JMO.

I don't know what you are saying is inconsistent. It would be very much against his own interest to intentionally ask KK to search for the wrong thing as he didn't have to ask her to search for anything at all and it was in fact this search he requested of KK that ended up getting him arrested - all this was from him voluntarily talking to KK that he didn't have to do in the first place rather than him being arrested and dragged into a police station in his comments to her. What he did tell KK is consistent with the evidence given how he didn't know BM and how BM ran toward another house. Before finding out that BM ran in front of another house it was then that the testimony wasn't squaring. Even RM has said EN might not have recognized the Buick since it had been modified and I'm not aware of any testimony or out-of-court statements from anyone saying that EN recognized it was the Meyers the night of the shooting.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't know what you are saying is inconsistent. It would be very much against his own interest to intentionally ask KK to search for the wrong thing as he didn't have to ask her to search for anything at all and it was in fact this search he requested of KK that ended up getting him arrested - all this was from him voluntarily talking to KK that he didn't have to do in the first place rather than him being arrested and dragged into a police station in his comments to her. What he did tell KK is consistent with the evidence given how he didn't know BM and how BM ran toward another house. Before finding out that BM ran in front of another house it was then that the testimony wasn't squaring. Even RM has said EN might not have recognized the Buick since it had been modified and I'm not aware of any testimony or out-of-court statements from anyone saying that EN recognized it was the Meyers the night of the shooting.

Think about this.

Maybe Erich told his friend things that he thought would minimize his premeditated actions. Saying that he didn't know the identity of who he was shooting at when he really did could be one of those.

He didn't have to tell LE anything and he did. That shows me that he likes to talk even if it's not in his best interest. Erich's statements to his friends and LE need to be looked at carefully. His statements that try to deflect knowledge of things that should be obvious are suspect to me.

JMO

 

[Snoods]

Vegas Breaking News ‏@vegasbreaking 3m3 minutes ago
#BREAKING #TammyMeyers had powerful pain drugs and anti-anxiety drugs in her system
http://8nn.tv/1GLgfbD

Not surprised one bit to finally hear this. I know very well the frame of mind she may have been experiencing. When I was using (and an addict) I was ten feet tall, bullet-proof and could run ten miles faster 'n you, just dare me. When addicts take oxi, we move quickly into the I'm BETTER, SMARTER, STRONGER, FASTER stage. At least this is how it was for me YMMV. People who take them as prescribed should have no problem.

It also explains her bizarre reaction during the earlier road rage incident in which she followed a "gang member" all the way to his home in order to confront him because of a perceived (imaginary?) slight he committed upon her in traffic. Tammy felt there was NO other alternative than to stalk this man to his home and demand justice, no matter how wrong, irrational and unsafe it might be.

This turned into an escalating pattern for TM.

 

[jjenny]

She had a prescription for pain meds for back pain. So she was legally taking them as prescribed.

 

[jjenny]

It's extremely doubtful that TM received Oxyanything at the hospital. NO Oxy pre-fixed drug is meant to be injected and she would not have been able to swallow a pill at the time. Nor is Oxyanything used to induce a coma nor treat an acute or major head/brain injury.

Oxy was legally prescribed to her for back pain.