NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

[SouthAussie]

Carroll’s legal team is expected to call other witnesses including two women she claims to have told about the alleged rape shortly after it happened, Lisa Birnbach and Carol Martin, who have corroborated the account in interviews.

E Jean Carroll expected to testify in Trump rape-defamation civil trial

Writer is suing former president over alleged assault in New York department store in 1990s

www.theguardian.com

 

[sds71]

@KlasfeldReports


Trump just swiped at E. Jean Carroll twice in the last hour on Truth Social, calling her case a "made up SCAM." We'll see if the missives come up in court today

It came up immediately, via Carroll's lawyer. She's reading it to the judge.

Carroll's lawyer argues Trump's Truth Social posts violate two court orders, not to discuss the lawyers or the DNA issue. Judge presses Trump's lawyer on the latter issue: "[Trump], for three years, refused to give a DNA sample, and now he wants it in the case?"

Judge Kaplan says that Trump seems to be trying to communicate to his supporters, or even perhaps jurors, about issues that aren't supposed to be part of the case.

Judge Kaplan says Trump's comments are "entirely inappropriate." Tacopina says he'll "try to address that with my client."

Tacopina says he'll ask him to "refrain from any further posts regarding this case." Judge: "Well, I hope you're more successful," adding that Trump "may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability." "And I think you know what I mean."

 

[SouthAussie]

@KlasfeldReports

RSBM

Judge Kaplan says Trump's comments are "entirely inappropriate." Tacopina says he'll "try to address that with my client."

Then Judge Kaplan said ... “Well, I hope you’re more successful,” and added that Mr Trump “may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability. And I think you know what I mean”.

Trump breaks silence on civil rape trial as accuser set to testify - live

Donald Trump news today

www.independent.co.uk

 

[JerseyGirl]

India:

Donald Trump ‘raped, groped’ ex-columnist E. Jean Carroll, court told

Donald Trump- E. Jean Carroll Trial: E. Jean Carroll earlier claimed that Donald Trump sexually assaulted her in a changing room.

www.hindustantimes.com

Hong Kong:

Trump rape trial opens with secret jury, judge’s warning

The six men and nine women deciding the ex-president’s fate in E. Jean Carroll’s lawsuit could use fake names when talking to each other, the judge suggested.

www.scmp.com

France:

Trump raped and 'destroyed' ex-columnist, US civil trial hears

Donald Trump raped a prominent former American columnist then "ridiculed" her with defamatory comments, a US civil trial hearing a lawsuit against the ex-president was told Tuesday.

www.france24.com

Ireland:

‘Fear and shame’: jury hears opening arguments in Trump civil rape trial

Carroll accuses Trump of assaulting her in dressing room of New York department store Bergdorf Goodman in 1996

www.irishtimes.com

Trump sexual assault trial gets under way in New York

E Jean Carroll's accusation that Donald Trump raped her was not a "he said, she said" dispute, a lawyer representing the writer said as a civil trial over the former US president's conduct nearly three decades ago got under way.

www.rte.ie

Australia:

‘Fear and shame’: Donald Trump faces rape allegation as trial begins

The civil trial, which is expected to last up to two weeks, could have implications for his re-election campaign.

www.smh.com.au

Israel:

Rape civil lawsuit trial against Donald Trump set to get underway

Ex-advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who says former president assaulted her in 1990s, is seeking unspecified damages, retraction of disparaging remarks he made about accusation

www.timesofisrael.com

Doha:

What to know about E Jean Carroll civil rape trial against Trump

Carroll is suing Trump for alleged rape under new New York law and defamation; she says attack took place in mid-1990s.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[sds71]

@AaronKatersky

“I’m here because Donald Trump raped me," E. Jean Carroll said as she began her testimony

The early part of Carroll's testify goes into her life and career, until questioning pivots to this photo of her, Donald Trump, her ex-husband John Johnson, and Trump's ex-wife Ivana.

@KlasfeldReports

Carroll describes her impression of Trump as being a "raconteur" and "man about town." She believed him to be a "sophisticated man who was entertaining to be around."

Asked about the timing of the alleged rape, Carroll acknowledges that she has struggled to remember the date, and she delves into context clues without a firm answer until Trump's attorney Joe Tacopina objects.

Judge Kaplan adopts a wait-and-see approach and allows her to continue. Carroll says she believes it was spring 1996, because her friend Lisa Birnbach published an article about Trump in February of that year, which involved a trip to MAL.

Birnbach was one of two women Carroll says she told about the alleged rape. "I believe that Lisa never would have gone down to Mar-a-Lago if she knew what [Trump] had done to me," she says. Objection. Overruled.

Carroll said that the encounter began when she was leaving the store and Trump raised his hand up, imitating what she called the "universal" signal. After Trump recognized her as the "advice lady," she replied: "Hey, you're that real estate tycoon," she says.

"You are so old," Carroll quoted him saying, calling his inflection "humorous."

After they went into the store to help Trump find a gift for a woman, Carroll says, Trump picked up a see-through, gray, body suit. "It looks like a swimsuit, but this was see-through," she says. "It used to be called teddies." She says
Trump said: "Go put this on."

Asked if she was flirting with Trump, she agrees that she was. Asked if things were escalating, she replies that the "comedy was escalating."

Carroll says that the opening of the door "plagued" her because she "walked into it." She says Trump "shoved" her against the wall, adding that she was extremely confused. Carroll: "I continued to laugh, because for a minute I thought maybe it was a mistake."

Carroll: "He, he was very large." [...] "He leaned down and pulled down my tights." "I was pushing him back. It was quite clear that I didn't want anything else to happen."

Q: At any point during this encounter, do you recall saying no? A: (softly) No. She adds: "I don't *recall* saying it," adding she may have. Asked if she screamed, Carroll said: "I'm not a screamer."

Carroll: "He pulled down my tights and his hand, his fingers went into my vagina, which was extremely painful." He "curved" his fingers, she says. Carroll: "As I'm sitting here today, I still feel it." Q: Then, what happened. A: Then he inserted his penis.

Long and sustained pause after her attorney asks what happened next. She looks downcast, as her lawyer asks if she needs a moment. Carroll presses on and is audibly emotional as she says that she tried to get her knee up to get off.

Asked if she remembered how long the alleged assault lasted, Carroll replies: "Very few minutes, very few. That's another thing that surprised me." She said it surprised her because of the sudden change from the "joshing" tone from earlier.

 

[JerseyGirl]

@KlasfeldReports


Trump just swiped at E. Jean Carroll twice in the last hour on Truth Social, calling her case a "made up SCAM." We'll see if the missives come up in court today

It came up immediately, via Carroll's lawyer. She's reading it to the judge.

Carroll's lawyer argues Trump's Truth Social posts violate two court orders, not to discuss the lawyers or the DNA issue. Judge presses Trump's lawyer on the latter issue: "[Trump], for three years, refused to give a DNA sample, and now he wants it in the case?"

Judge Kaplan says that Trump seems to be trying to communicate to his supporters, or even perhaps jurors, about issues that aren't supposed to be part of the case.

Judge Kaplan says Trump's comments are "entirely inappropriate." Tacopina says he'll "try to address that with my client."

Tacopina says he'll ask him to "refrain from any further posts regarding this case." Judge: "Well, I hope you're more successful," adding that Trump "may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability." "And I think you know what I mean."

"Your client seems to be endeavoring to talk to the public, but also seems to be talking to the jury in this case," US District Judge Lewis Kaplan warned Trump's attorney Joe Tacopina in his courtroom Wednesday morning.

Minutes earlier, Trump had published a series of Truth Social posts calling Carroll's allegations — that Trump raped her in a dressing room of the Bergdorf Goodman department store in the mid-1990s — a "made up SCAM" that was motivated by politics, and claiming that Carroll refused to produce a dress she said had DNA evidence proving Trump sexually assaulted her. Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan (who is not related to the judge) raised it before calling the case's first witness on Wednesday morning.

Tacopina initially said that Trump's comments appeared consistent with his opening statements in the case made Tuesday, but the judge wasn't buying it. Judge Kaplan pointed out that Trump had, for years, dodged taking a DNA test that would help determine the merits of Carroll's allegations.

"It's as if you just told me yesterday was the Fourth of July," Judge Kaplan said.

Judge Kaplan called Trump's Truth Social posts "a public statement that seems entirely inappropriate" and warned it may cross the line into "tampering" with the case.

"We're getting into an area where your client may or may not be tampering with a potential source of liability," the judge said.

Tacopina told the judge he'd tell Trump — who wasn't present in court — to "refrain from making posts" about the case.

"I hope you're more successful," the judge said.

Judge says Trump's Truth Social post blasting E. Jean Carroll during rape trial may be 'tampering' with jury

"We're getting into an area where your client may or may not be tampering with a potential source of liability," the judge told Trump's lawyer.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[JerseyGirl]

Donald Trump furiously tried to pour doubts on E Jean Carroll’s rape claims against him as he spoke out for the first time since their civil defamation trial began.

The former president took to Truth Social on Wednesday morning :

In a pair of posts, he branded the case a “witch hunt” as he unleashed a series of victim-shaming assumptions about her allegations.

“The E. Jean Carroll case, Ms. Bergdorf Goodman, is a made up SCAM,” Mr Trump wrote. “Her lawyer is a political operative, financed by a big political donor that they said didn’t exist, only to get caught lying about that.”

“Just look at her CNN interview before & after the commercial break - Like a different person. She said there was a dress, using the ol’ Monica Lewinsky ‘stuff’, then she didn’t want to produce it. The dress should be allowed to be part of the case. This is a fraudulent & false story--Witch Hunt!”

In the second post, Mr Trump went on to claim that Ms Carroll and her attorneys “got caught lying! The Miss Bergdorf Goodman case is financed by a big political donor that they tried to hide”.

“Does anybody believe that I would take a then almost 60 year old woman that I didn’t know, from the front door of a very crowded department store, (with me being very well known, to put it mildly!), into a tiny dressing room, and …. her,” he wrote. “She didn’t scream? There are no witnesses? Nobody saw this? She never made a police complaint? If I was seen there with a woman-BIG PRESS. SCAM!”

Mr Trump’s Truth Social posts were quickly brought into the court proceedings.

Read Trump’s astonishing rant on E Jean Carroll’s rape claim

Judge calls ex-president’s comments ‘entirely inappropriate’

www.independent.co.uk

According to Adam Klasfeld of Law & Crime, Ms Carroll’s lawyer argued that Mr Trump’s posts violated two court orders, those ordering participants not to discuss the attorneys or the issue of the DNA sample.

Mr Trump’s initial post misleadingly suggests that Ms Carroll’s attorneys did not want to enter the dress she was wearing on the day of the alleged rape into evidence.

In reality, Ms Carroll’s legal team tried for three years to obtain Mr Trump’s DNA sample to compare it with stains on the dress.

After refusing to provide a sample, Mr Trump’s attorneys then made an offer to do so earlier this year - but only after the deadline to litigate concerns over evidence had passed. Judge Lewis Kaplan rejected the offer because reopening the DNA issue would delay the trial.

 

[Niner]

Just FYI - I am copying Inner City Press tweets & will bring them over...

BRB

 

[JerseyGirl]

Donald Trump furiously tried to pour doubts on E Jean Carroll’s rape claims against him as he spoke out for the first time since their civil defamation trial began.

The former president took to Truth Social on Wednesday morning :

In a pair of posts, he branded the case a “witch hunt” as he unleashed a series of victim-shaming assumptions about her allegations.

“The E. Jean Carroll case, Ms. Bergdorf Goodman, is a made up SCAM,” Mr Trump wrote. “Her lawyer is a political operative, financed by a big political donor that they said didn’t exist, only to get caught lying about that.”

“Just look at her CNN interview before & after the commercial break - Like a different person. She said there was a dress, using the ol’ Monica Lewinsky ‘stuff’, then she didn’t want to produce it. The dress should be allowed to be part of the case. This is a fraudulent & false story--Witch Hunt!”

In the second post, Mr Trump went on to claim that Ms Carroll and her attorneys “got caught lying! The Miss Bergdorf Goodman case is financed by a big political donor that they tried to hide”.

“Does anybody believe that I would take a then almost 60 year old woman that I didn’t know, from the front door of a very crowded department store, (with me being very well known, to put it mildly!), into a tiny dressing room, and …. her,” he wrote. “She didn’t scream? There are no witnesses? Nobody saw this? She never made a police complaint? If I was seen there with a woman-BIG PRESS. SCAM!”

Mr Trump’s Truth Social posts were quickly brought into the court proceedings.

Read Trump’s astonishing rant on E Jean Carroll’s rape claim

Judge calls ex-president’s comments ‘entirely inappropriate’

www.independent.co.uk

According to Adam Klasfeld of Law & Crime, Ms Carroll’s lawyer argued that Mr Trump’s posts violated two court orders, those ordering participants not to discuss the attorneys or the issue of the DNA sample.

Mr Trump’s initial post misleadingly suggests that Ms Carroll’s attorneys did not want to enter the dress she was wearing on the day of the alleged rape into evidence.

In reality, Ms Carroll’s legal team tried for three years to obtain Mr Trump’s DNA sample to compare it with stains on the dress.

After refusing to provide a sample, Mr Trump’s attorneys then made an offer to do so earlier this year - but only after the deadline to litigate concerns over evidence had passed. Judge Lewis Kaplan rejected the offer because reopening the DNA issue would delay the trial.

The Truth Social posts were deleted about two hours after they were posted.

Trump Warned To Stay Off Social Media After Posts Calling E. Jean Carroll Rape Trial A ‘Scam’

Trump has since deleted the posts after the judge said they were inappropriate during the trial.

www.forbes.com

 

[Niner]

Summary tweets - Wednesday, 4/26/23 Trial Day 2:

Plaintiff Witness: Cheryl L. Beall, worked at Bergdorf-Goodman

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
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1h
OK - Now Carroll v. Trump trial, Day 2 - Inner City Press is live tweeting the trial - now complaint about Trump post on Truth Social about Ms. Bergdorf Goodman being a "scam"

Before anonymous jury brought in, complaint about Trump's post.
Judge Kaplan, to Tacopina: Your client is speaking to his "public," about things he is not supposed to speak about.
Tacopina: Ms. Kaplan's office leaked that two mock juries found liability

Tacopina: I'm not saying Ms. Kaplan did it. Someone from that wall did it.
Judge Kaplan: Could have been someone off the street who was paid to give an opinion.
Tacopina: I've read the article.
Judge Kaplan: I have too. There were 37 people...

Tacopina: I will speak to my client about the post today, I assure you. But they have done it too. There was a protective order that was not signed or executed. I will ask my client not to comment on the case. I don't. [He went out Pearl Street door yesterday]

Judge Kaplan: Your client may be tampering with a new source of potential liability. And I think you know what I mean.
[Contempt of court?]
Judge Kaplan: Anything else?
Carroll's lawyer (sounding happy) Nothing, your Honor

First witness: Cheryl L. Beall.
Carroll's lawyer: What is your current job?
Beall: VP of a cosmetics company. Before that, Prada, Louis Vuitton...
Carroll's lawyer: Let's focus on the spring of 1996. Where were you?
Beall: Bergdorf Goodman on 57th and 5th Avenue

Carroll's lawyer: What was your job?
Beall: Manager of the women's store.
Carroll's lawyer: How busy would it get on Thursday evening?
Beall: Busy if we had an event. Otherwise, rather quiet.

Note: Here is the Truth Social post that Carroll's lawyer read to Judge Kaplan, which he said may open Trump up to a "new source of potential liability"...



Not (yet) mentioned by Carroll's lawyers, a second Truth Social post this morning...



[Back to the courtroom]
Carroll's lawyer: On this chart, what is FR?
Beall: The fitting rooms, dressing rooms.
Carroll's lawyer: Where would the swimwear area be?
Beall: It moved. It was a swing shop. It was seasonal.

Carroll's lawyer: Were the fitting rooms sometimes open?
Beall: Yes. We wished they were. But some sales associates tied them open with ribbons.
Carroll's lawyer: Could two people fit inside?
Beall: Yes. People shop together.

Carroll's lawyer: Did famous people shop there then?
Beall: One of my favorites was Pierce Brosnan --
Carroll's lawyer: How were famous people treated?
Beall: They were given privacy. We didn't like hearing, I just saw this famous football guy with a 2d person

Carroll's lawyer: Had you seen Donald Trump?
Beall: Yes, I saw him on 57th Street.
Carroll's lawyer: Did you ever hear of Donald Trump being in Bergdorf's?
Trump's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!
Judge Kaplan: Not necessarily.

Carroll's lawyer: I'll rephrase. If Donald Trump came in, would you be alerted?
Beall: Not necessarily. If he was president, sure, there'd be Secret Service.
Carroll's lawyer: No further questions.

Judge Kaplan: Cross examination.
Trump's lawyer: Given the proximity from the fitting room to the main area, if someone screamed, would they be heard?
Beall: If they screamed, yes.
Trump's lawyer: And if someone's head-
Judge Kaplan: If a tree falls in the forest

Trump's lawyer: I got my answer, Your Honor.
Judge Kaplan: I know you did. But you know where I'm coming from.
Trump's lawyer: Did you maintain the footage from the security cameras?
Beall: Sure.
Trump's lawyer: Could a person get it?
Beall: I assume so.

Trump's lawyer: Did you have guards?
Beall: Security executives might take a pass through the store.
Trump's lawyer: If a person had a security concern they could be approached?
Judge Kaplan: Were they in uniform?
Beall: At the front desk.
Trump's lawyer: Thanks

Trump's lawyer: So you were contacted by the plaintiff's lawyers, to testify?
Beall: Yes.
Trump's lawyer: But you refused the defense team?
Beall: These investigators came unannounced. I told them I was at my place of business.

Trump's lawyer: Were you called yesterday & you hung up?
Beall: Yes. At 8:30 am.
No further questions.
15 minute break is called.

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[Niner]

Summary tweets - Wednesday, 4/26/23 Trial Day 2:

Plaintiff Witness: E. Jean Caroll / Part 1


Inner City Press
@innercitypress
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1h
OK - we're back, with E. Jean Carroll on the stand - and a photograph of her being shown to the jury.
Counsel: When did you graduate?
Carroll: 1967, after I returned a library book.
Counsel: What did you want to do?
Carroll: Be a writer. First I worked for P&G

Counsel: Did you get married after graduation?
Carroll: 3 or 4 years later. To Steve. He became editor of Outdoor Life. We went to Montana together. We split up in 1980 or 1981 after a successful companionship and marriage

Counsel: Then where did you move?
Carroll: To Manhattan. I wrote for magazines: Esquire, Playboy, Rolling Stone, then Vanity Fair and New York and the Atlantic.
Counsel: For Elle?
Carroll: It was the thinking woman's fashion magazine. I started Ask E. Jean

Counsel: Did you have a TV show?
Carroll: Yes, it was the idea of Roger Ailes. We went on to create Fox News.
Counsel: Was he your boss at the time?
Carroll: Yes. He had his own show, Straight Forward, at 8 pm. He interviewed celebrities.

Counsel: Did you see Mr. Ailes' set?
Carroll: Yes. He had two sets, one in Fort Lee and one in the city.
Counsel: May I approach the witness?
Judge Kaplan: Yes.
Counsel: What is this?
Carroll: A CD I watched then wrote the word "Roger" on.

Counsel: Did you get remarried?
Carroll: What time period?
Counsel: 1980s.
Carroll: Yes, John Johnson of ABC, then CBS.
Counsel: What year did you get married?
Carroll: 1987 or 1988. Then for 3 years, ending in a divorce - but we continued to see each other

Counsel: Are you involved in websites?
Carroll: Yes, Great Boyfriends dot com. With my sister Candy, to help people find The One. We started in 2001. We sold it for $600,000. I don't use that site anymore. Also, a dating site called Talk-a-Bye (sp)

Carroll: That website uses AI to help people find a good partner. I get 200 letters a month, how to find someone to make them happy.
Carroll: Let's turn to the reason you're here, what happened with Donald Trump. When did you meet him?
Carroll: 1987, at SNL or ABC

Counsel: What's in this photo?
Carroll: Donald Trump, Ivana, John Johnson & me.
[It's PX 12, also labeled "Confidental CARROLL 030211]
Carroll: The conversation was about 5 minutes. He was a raconteur.
Counsel: Did you find him attractive?
Carroll: Yes. Personable

Counsel: When do you believe Donald Trump assaulted you?
Carroll: Going by what I was wearing, tights but no coat, I'd say Spring. Ms. Birnbach has written a story about Mr. Trump and Mar-a-Lago, a bomb shell --
Trump's lawyer: Objection!

Counsel: Ms. Carroll, we're not going to get into the substance of the article. How did it help you remember when?
Carroll: Mr. Tacopina said I referred to 1995 or 1996 --
Counsel: Just, how did the article help you remember?
Carroll: Lisa Birnbach wrote it...

Carroll: She went down to Mar-a-Lago in February 1996. I believe she would not have done down there if she'd known what Trump had done to me --
Tapopina: Objection.
Judge Kaplan: I'm going to allow it.

Carroll: I believe it was a Thursday.
Counsel: You've never before said that, right?
Carroll: I've always thought it. I'm not 100% certain. But I think so.
Counsel: Are you sure?
Carroll: I feel sure. But not 100%.

Carroll: I lived in a cottage in Nyack. I'd feed the dogs then write the TV show. I'd drive to Fort Lee, into hair and make up. Live at 4 pm...
At Bergdorf, Donald Trump asked me to help him buy a gift. I loved it - it was a great NY moment. I asked, For how old?

Carroll: When something is painful, and it causes pain to talk about it, we never talked about it again.
Counsel: Anyone else, you spoke to?
Carroll: Lisa again, many years later.


continued...



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[Kavya01]

I do not believe her. Imagine getting "raped" in a dressing room and saying nothing to anyone working there, not calling police, not filing a complaint against him, not remembering the year or the day of the rape and waiting ~30 years to speak - despite knowing his identity <modsnip>

Trump was photographed hundreds of thousands of times at parties/events/shows posing and talking with people. It does not mean he knows them or remembers them.

It is just BS.

JMHO

IMO and experience, women suffer in silence more often than accusing, especially powerful men, following the assault. The humiliation, the pain, the shame and the utter feeling of powerlessness and fear and trauma, are strong deterrents for MANY women to speak up even for decades. It may well have been that Trump <modsnip> triggered something inside her to finally dare to confront this. She is also nearing the end of her life, as he is his, and she might have decided to resolve this lifelong overbearing issue before her death. Such are all reasons why allegations and confrontations get timed "strangely" in the eyes of the world but not the eyes of the victim.

MOO.

 

[Niner]

Summary tweets - Wednesday, 4/26/23 Trial Day 2:

Plaintiff Witness: E. Jean Caroll / Part 2

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
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34m
Counsel: Why did you stay silent so long?
Carroll: I would never report it. Roger Ailes would have fired me. And I was afraid of Donald Trump, that he would retaliate. Woman who are raped are looked at as soiled goods. People say, She should have screamed

Counsel: Did you tell your family?
Carroll: No. We are very upbeat. We do not discuss anything that would cause people to feel badly.
Counsel: Is there a lunch break window?
Judge Kaplan: Jurors, 2 o'clock.
Andy: Jurors, please some this way.
[Jurors leave]

Judge Kaplan: OK be seated everybody. Where were we?
Counsel: I plan to ask Ms. Carroll about the harm that occurred to her from this assault. We appreciate the defense can ask about other possible causes. But there are two area I want to ask about --

Carroll's counsel: We would not object if the defense wanted to ask Ms. Carroll about another instance of sexual assault that occurred to Ms. Carroll, that involved a camp counselor.
Tacopina: Please read that back. We were...

2d Trump lawyer, Chad Seigel: There were 2 other sexual assaults. One by a dentist then one that involved Les Moonves.
Judge Kaplan: When was the dentist?
Seigel: She said it in a deposition. I have it right here. Page 174. I'll read it-
Judge Kaplan: Please don't

Seigel: Yes.
Judge Kaplan: You're going to say it wasn't what happened with Mr. Trump, but rather the dentist?
Seigel: We say nothing happened with Mr. Trump.
Judge Kaplan: Whatever happened with Mr. Trump.
Seigel: Her M.O. is accusation without time frame

Carroll's lawyer Michael Ferrara cites a 9th Circuit case.
Seigel: The rule only applies when the witness had not raised the issue herself and opened the door, which has clearly happened here. She has written about this.

Judge Kaplan: Give me a moment, fellas. What does the 9th Circuit say, Mr. Ferrara, that requires the exclusion of the Moonves incident?
Ferrara: The rule excludes evidence of other sexual assaults -

E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Ferrara: We think of it as doors. Some must remain closed, other will be opened --
Judge Kaplan: Except at Bergdorf's.
Ferrara: Well played.

Trump's lawyer Seigel: They want to allow questions about the dentist, when she was a child, because it evokes sympathy, but not Moonves --
Judge Kaplan: Rape of a child is bad, but rape of a woman is not? I wouldn't want to hang my argument on that.

Judge Kaplan: I just read a scathing letter in this case the other day. You are carping. I've had enough of it.
Seigel: They've opened the door. We're permitted to rebut it.
Judge Kaplan: You say an incident with Moonves in 1997 also limited romance
Seigel: Or sex

Ferrara: The reason we came up with the camp counselor is that --
Judge Kaplan: Forget the camp counselor. Let's stick with what we're talking about. She says, X happened and I have consequences. They say, there was also Y.
Ferrara: We say Rule 412 precludes it.

Judge Kaplan: Counselor, if your expert going to attribute harm to Moonves?
Trump's lawyer Seigel: He intends to.
Judge Kaplan: Is it in his report?
Seigel: Yes, generally.
Judge Kaplan: I'll think about it over lunch.

Carroll's lawyer Ferrara: Ms. Carroll has said her second husband John Johnson was violent with her. Not sexually. But we think the reason they fought must be excluded, under Rule 403.
Tacopina: It's relevant. He got violent because she called him an ape

Judge Kaplan: I know what you're up to.
Tacopina: I'm trying to defend the case. To not hear the reason for Johnson's violence, it's not fair.
Judge Kaplan: You're entitled to your opinion, but it's not mine.
[Stands up to leave]
All rise!
Thread to continue at 2


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[Niner]

Oops - this goes "somewhere" in the middle of the tweets - had it on the wrong notepad...

Judge Kaplan (looking at deposition) What line should I look at, to remind me of my most recent root canal?
Seigel: 8 though 20.
Silence.
Judge Kaplan: In a nutshell, insofar as the dentist episode is concerned, why is it relevant? An alternate explanation?

Seigel: Ms. Carroll says Les Moonves graphically sexually assaulted her on an elevator.
Judge Kaplan: Page? Line?
Seigel: 162 of the transcript, lines 12 through 17. Defendant's exhibit AA.
Judge Kaplan: Give me a minute. If you're talking I can't read.

Judge Kaplan: The underlying reason is not coming in, it is a subject on which the unfair prejudicial effect outrageously outweighs any probative value, to a mixed race jury in New York, it is outrageous in my opinion.
Tacopina: I've got your ruling.

 

[JerseyGirl]

E Jean Carroll recounts alleged Trump rape in horrifying detail: ‘I’m a fighter’

Ms Carroll alleges Mr Trump assualted her in the mid-1990s

www.independent.co.uk

Wrap up of this morning..

Ms Carroll testified on Wednesday that she was with Mr Trump at the department store, Bergdorf Goodman’s in the mid-1990s when Mr Trump assaulted her in the dressing room.

The former Elle columnist said she and Mr Trump were shopping around the department store at the time and he asked her to try on a piece of lingerie that he was looking to purchase- a blue bodysuit.

“He was having a good time, and so was I,” Ms Carroll said adding that the two were harmlessly flirting with one another.

As the two reached the dressing room, Ms Carroll said Mr Trump, “Shut the door and shoved me up against the wall.”

“I was confused. I laughed,” Ms Carroll said.

She said she pushed Mr Trump back but he “thurst” her into the wall again.

From there, Ms Carroll described how Mr Trump pulled down her tights and inserted his fingers into her vagina.

“It was extremely painful,” Ms Carroll recalled emotionally. “It was a horrible feeling. He put his hand inside me and curled his finger. As I sit here today, I can still feel it.”

When asked if she screamed for help or told Mr Trump to stop, Ms Carroll said, “I’m not a screamer. I’m a fighter.”

Ms Carroll alleges Mr Trump then inserted his penis and began to rape her.

“I wonder why I walked in there, to get in that situation... I’m proud to say I got out of there,” Ms Carroll.

After the assault, Ms Carroll said she left the department store quickly and called her friend, Lisa Birnbach. Later on, Ms Carroll would tell Carol Martin, an anchorwoman at ABC about the assault, but did not confide in many others.

Ms Carroll said she felt “very stupid” for going into the dressing room. She described how the rape left her “unable to ever have a romantic life again.”

The former columnist said she felt so ashamed about the assault that she did not seek medical attention or tell the police.

Ms Carroll says she was warned by Ms Martin that Mr Trump had “200 lawyers” and would “bury” her if she tried to come forward about the allegations.

“I was afraid of Donald Trump, that he would retaliate,” Ms Carroll said.

Ms Carroll’s concluded her testimony by explaining that she did not tell her family about the assault because they did not “discuss anything that would cause people to feel badly.”

Though Ms Carroll kept the horrific incident a secret most of her life, she revealed it in her 2019 memoir What Do We Need Men For?

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Trump Warned To Stay Off Social Media After Posts Calling E. Jean Carroll Rape Trial A ‘Scam’

Just unbelievable that while DT is a Defendant on trial (virtually) he is posting virtual commentary about the Plaintiff in the trial on SM and attacking them and their testimony.

Sounds like he must have finally and truly lost his marbles.

Or is he that Mach·i·a·vel·li·an that he did so knowing he would be warned/censored and have to take them down but would still get his "2 hours of posts up" (screenshots live forever).

Unreal, and a terrible miscarriage of justice, IMO, that the judge and parties involved and jurors had to deal with this apparent attempt to undermine the proceedings and/or get some clicks

JMO

 

[MrsWatson]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/26/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-testimony/index.html

 

[Stunned]

Trump Warned To Stay Off Social Media After Posts Calling E. Jean Carroll Rape Trial A ‘Scam’

Just unbelievable that while DT is a Defendant on trial (virtually) he is posting virtual commentary about the Plaintiff in the trial on SM and attacking them and their testimony.

Sounds like he must have finally and truly lost his marbles.

Or is he that Mach·i·a·vel·li·an that he did so knowing he would be warned/censored and have to take them down but would still get his "2 hours of posts up" (screenshots live forever).

Unreal, and a terrible miscarriage of justice, IMO, that the judge and parties involved and jurors had to deal with this apparent attempt to undermine the proceedings and/or get some clicks

JMO

No one should be surprised by his behavior at this point.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The article below is by a lawyer who is very confident in Carroll's case. While I believe her allegation, I'm not so confident in the trial. I think she can win but would say it's more of a coin flip because of juror variables.

Column: Losing track of all the cases against Trump? Here's why E. Jean Carroll's is so damning

The writer sued the ex-president alleging sexual assault and defamation. The law and evidence in the case, which went to trial Tuesday in New York, favor the plaintiff.

www.latimes.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/26/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-testimony/index.html

Testimony from former store manager​

Before Carroll took the stand, former Bergdorf Goodman Women’s Store Manager Cheryl Beall testified for under an hour as Carroll’s first witness in the civil trial.

Beall worked at the luxury department store for a decade until about 1998, and had an office on the sixth floor adjacent to the lingerie department where Carroll has alleged Trump raped her.

She walked the jury through a floor plan of the sixth floor from the relevant time period, describing the layout and fitting rooms on that floor as a wooden-walled room with walls that met the ceiling. The fitting room door locked automatically when closed, she testified.

Beall said the store had a practice of keeping fitting room doors closed while not in use, but they’d “regularly” be left open.

Bergdorf Goodman scheduled at least one person to monitor each department at all times but it was not uncommon that the area on the sixth floor would be left unmanned, especially on a slow evening, Beall said.