NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

[I am not Sherlock H.]

My favorite thing from this trial (besides that elderly women held DT accountable for something finally) is when the trial was over & DT’s lawyer went to tell EJC good luck and she just said, “He did it. And you know it.” Epic.

Another was misidentifying the plaintiff in a picture from that era. Believing rather, that she was his second wife, Ms. Maples. …… so the plaintiff is ‘not my type’ according to his own statements or testimony….. but the defendant confuses her image in a picture for his second wife. Epic 2.0.

MOO.

 

[happyday]

Another was misidentifying the plaintiff in a picture from that era. Believing rather, that she was his second wife, Ms. Maples. …… so the plaintiff is ‘not my type’ according to his own statements or testimony….. but the defendant confuses her image in a picture for his second wife. Epic 2.0.

MOO.

Yeah that was definitely a Doh! moment

 

[Cool Cats]

I can see the Appeals Court doubling the $5M payout, after his defamatory performance at the town hall.


(That could be my wish, and not a legal possibility IDK.)

Hummm....

I wonder too, if a different judge - on appeal - could change the award?

EJC is thinking about possibly suing Trump over his incendiary remarks since the verdict. And of course Trump is appealing and will do so for as long as possible. I wonder how she will manage, her attorneys manage, getting that 5 Mil out of Trump?

Often attorneys get paid with settlement money, I wonder if this is the Case here?

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[JennieM]

I caught it online late last night. I wanted to know what we're up against. Not that I don't know who this guy is, but I wanted to see what he was saying these days.

I was stunned (how can I still be surprised at anything he says?), disgusted, and appalled.

But what really got me was the "polling" they did of 8 attendees afterwards. They asked several questions and to hear all 3 of the women in that room say they had no thoughts on the EJC verdict because they did not follow the case, don't really know the circumstances, and that people make stuff up... just made me cry.

And 3 of the people said that he is entitled to his opinion that he won the 2020 election, because he still believes he did.

It's not him at this point; the damage is done IMO - it's those who think it's ok now to be like him. To be outwardly racist, sexist, misogynistic. The normalizing of it all.

Thanks for letting me share.

I watched the beginning of it last night. It was terrible. I had to stop watching because my chest started to hurt so bad, I got so angry when he was making fun of E Jean Carroll and the audience was laughing. He is a big nasty bully with a big nasty mouth who will happily destroy his country and its people for his own self interests. He will incite and incite again, he is dangerous and needs stopping.

 

[JennieM]

E Jean Carroll: Donald Trump appeals against $5m verdict in sex abuse trial​

His appeal comes a day after the former president called his accuser a "wack job" during a CNN town hall event.

"I swear on my children, which I never do. I have no idea who this woman is. This is a fake story," he said.

He accused the civil trial's presiding judge of anti-Trump bias and said that his decision not to testify in person would not have made any difference to the outcome.

The jury's verdict marked the first time Mr Trump, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women, was found legally
responsible for assault.

E Jean Carroll: Donald Trump appeals against $5m verdict in sex abuse trial

A jury on Tuesday found Mr Trump liable for the sexual assault and defamation of writer E Jean Carroll

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

E Jean Carroll considering suing Trump for his remarks during CNN town hall​

The disparaging comments came just a day after the ex-president was found liable for sexually abusing the writer

Writer E Jean Carroll is considering suing Donald Trump for defamation again after the former US president made disparaging remarks about her during a televised CNN town hall just a day after he was found liable in a civil case for sexually assaulting her.

“Everything’s on the table, obviously, and we have to give serious consideration to it,” Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan told the New York Times about the prospect of a defamation lawsuit. “We have to weigh the various pros and cons and we’ll come to a decision in the next day or so, probably.”

[...]

Carroll told the Times that the remarks had been upsetting when she read a transcript of them. “It’s just stupid, it’s just disgusting, vile, foul, it wounds people,” she told the newspaper.

She added: “I am upset on the behalf of young men in America. They cannot listen to this balderdash and this old-timey view of women, which is a cave-man view.”

E Jean Carroll considering suing Trump for his remarks during CNN town hall

The disparaging comments came just a day after the ex-president was found liable for sexually abusing the writer

www.theguardian.com

 

[JennieM]

‘What was CNN thinking?’: our panel on Donald Trump’s town hall​

Lies, ridicule and applause from a pliable audience – the ex-president gave the audience what they came for, much to the discredit of CNN

Moira Donegan: ‘Trump better be afraid of women’​

The laughter was uproarious. On stage at CNN’s disastrous town hall, former president Trump recounted the rape allegation of E Jean Carroll, the columnist who won her lawsuit against him for sexual abuse and defamation just yesterday. Trump spoke to the character of Carroll’s former husband, addressing the man in a kind of masculine camaraderie, saying he felt bad for him for having been married to Carroll. He claimed Carroll was promiscuous for going into a dressing room at a department store with him, and also that he never met her. He complained that he had not been allowed to introduce the name of her pet as evidence against her at trial. And he referred to her accusation of rape as “hanky-panky”. The crowd of Republican voters chuckled and cheered.

They laughed, too, when Trump referred to former Democratic House speaker Nancy Pelosi as “crazy Nancy”. And they laughed when Trump got frustrated with the moderator, CNN’s 31-year-old Kaitlan Collins. “You’re a nasty person, I’ll tell ya,” he told her, and his fans in the audience erupted in delighted laughs. Collins, for her part, was badly outmatched, unable to fact-check the continuous stream of disinformation from Trump.

She failed to offer any correction whatsoever when Trump repeatedly told inflammatory lies about abortion, lies that have incited murderous violence against medical providers. Collins instead tried to pin Trump down on whether he would sign a federal abortion ban, but Trump demurred, refusing to commit. Reportedly, the former president has been alarmed at the political fallout from the Dobbs decision. All night, he derided women for contemptuous laughs, playing to his base. But there are evidently some women he’s quite afraid of: the ones who vote.

‘What was CNN thinking?’: our panel on Donald Trump’s town hall | Moira Donegan, Moustafa Bayoumi, Bhaskar Sunkara and Lloyd Green

Lies, ridicule and applause from a pliable audience – the ex-president gave the audience what they came for, much to the discredit of CNN

www.theguardian.com

 

[snakefinger]

Three takeaways:
He opened himself to a third lawsuit from E. Jean Carroll, as well as damaging any appeal on the cases he already lost.
He handed a wealth of soundbites to Democrats, ready-made for use in upcoming campaign ads.
His public utterances can and should be used where valid in ongoing criminal investigations.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Three takeaways:
He opened himself to a third lawsuit from E. Jean Carroll, as well as damaging any appeal on the cases he already lost.
He handed a wealth of soundbites to Democrats, ready-made for use in upcoming campaign ads.
His public utterances can and should be used where valid in ongoing criminal investigations.

In other words he just couldn't help himself.

He put his big foot in his mouth...

 

[SouthAussie]

In other words he just couldn't help himself.

He put his big foot in his mouth...

One of our TV presenters - on Ch7 - this morning said that DT is ramped up to an 11.

(With 10 being the top of the scale.)

 

[Stunned]

In other words he just couldn't help himself.

He put his big foot in his mouth...

He’s his own worse enemy. That’s his only good quality, and I’m here to watch him take himself out.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Washington Post report:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/12/cnn-leadership-under-fire-after-disastrous-trump-town-hall/70211143007/

CNN's prime-time broadcast of a raucous town hall with Donald Trump propelled a tsunami of criticism from inside and outside the network Thursday - and renewed questions about how the news media will handle the challenge of covering the serial falsehoods of the Republican Party's leading candidate going into the 2024 election.

The former president repeatedly dodged or sneered at questions from CNN's moderator, Kaitlan Collins, during the live, 70-minute forum at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire on Wednesday night. He doubled down on false claims that "a rigged election" led to his 2020 ouster and referred to writer E. Jean Carroll, who just prevailed in her lawsuit against him for defamation and battery, as a "whack job," to cheers and laughter from the audience, made up of local Republican voters...

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

I saw a clip earlier of Anderson Cooper saying he understands if people will never watch CNN again

ETA: Trouble at CNN towers: Star Anderson Cooper blasts his own network for Trump town hall and says viewers have the right to 'never watch this network again'

 

[JerseyGirl]

I saw a clip earlier of Anderson Cooper saying he understands if people will never watch CNN again

ETA: Trouble at CNN towers: Star Anderson Cooper blasts his own network for Trump town hall and says viewers have the right to 'never watch this network again'

They’re trying to save CNN. Here’s Kaitlan’s attempt at damage control:

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CNN's Kaitlan Collins Calls Trump Town Hall 'a Major Inflection Point' in GOP Primary Race (Video)

The town hall, which aired Wednesday and was moderated by Kaitlan Collins, sparked widespread criticism of CNN

www.thewrap.com

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I saw a clip earlier of Anderson Cooper saying he understands if people will never watch CNN again

ETA: Trouble at CNN towers: Star Anderson Cooper blasts his own network for Trump town hall and says viewers have the right to 'never watch this network again'

You really need to READ the article for the context.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

In other words he just couldn't help himself.

He put his big foot in his mouth...

The audience didn't seem to see it this way.

I just don't know why the audience seemed to be all his Repub election deniers. Why didn't they balance that group?

 

[JerseyGirl]

The audience didn't seem to see it this way.

I just don't know why the audience seemed to be all his Repub election deniers. Why didn't they balance that group?

I read about that this morning. Now that you mention it, i’ll post what I found:

Trump’s team revels in town hall victory as CNN staff rages at ‘spectacle of lies’

Questions also linger over what the network offered the ex-president in exchange for what some called a Trump infomercial

www.theguardian.com

… Trump campaign appears to have got what it wanted out of the CNN town hall in part because it negotiated the terms of the event with an unusual degree of leverage, according to multiple people familiar with how the planning unfolded.

For starters, Trump’s team for months played hard to get with CNN – which first reached out to do a town hall almost as soon as Trump announced his 2024 candidacy. However, the campaign had always been more likely to go with CNN over NBC or Fox News, the other major networks in talks to host an event.

The campaign already had pro-Trump commentators and surrogates appearing on Fox News shows, and while MSNBC has recently had higher ratings than CNN, the liberal network was seen by advisers as being inhospitable ground compared with the Licht-era CNN that has tried to cater more to Republicans.

Trump’s team also figured that CNN worked for its needs because it could have Collins as the moderator, a rising star who co-hosts the network’s morning show but has also remained on the Trump beat and has taken care to preserve her relationship with the ex-president.

Pairing Collins with Republicans who mostly voted for Trump in 2020 was as close to home turf as the campaign could get. The team said it would have rejected Jake Tapper, after he threatened to ban Republicans who endorsed Trump’s 2020 election lies from his shows.

The campaign also made sure the pre- and post-town hall coverage featured Trump surrogates on air. Among the bookings: former Trump White House press aide Hogan Gidley, pro-Trump congressmen Brian Mast and Byron Donalds, as well as pro-Trump senator JD Vance.

A spokesperson for CNN denied that the network made any formal agreement to book surrogates as guests in order to host of the town hall.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

"CNN staff rages at 'specatacle of lies'", lol, did they think they were going to get anything different? Some truth teller with a high level of morality and ethics?

 

[happyday]

I saw a clip earlier of Anderson Cooper saying he understands if people will never watch CNN again

ETA: Trouble at CNN towers: Star Anderson Cooper blasts his own network for Trump town hall and says viewers have the right to 'never watch this network again'

I don’t disagree with Anderson Cooper often, but I do on this one. He defends CNN for giving DT a platform and says ignoring him won’t make him go away and that only listening to what you agree with isn’t good. I get what he saying, but giving DT a bunch of airtime and not ignoring him hasn’t exactly worked out well for us so far. He’s not a normal candidate who deserves equal airtime and who deserves an equal chance at the presidency. This is a man who organized a violent insurrection and tried to overturn an election. This is a convicted sexual predator who has done so much damage to this country that I don’t know if it will ever heal.
At this point he just needs to go away. For the benefit of ALL Americans. His own party would love nothing more than for him to go away, but he won’t, and they need that certain amount of people who just want the chaos and disruption that he promises, and the GOP needs them. So they’re stuck. If the press would at the very least only give him taped airtime so they could have time to fact-check all the lies as it’s presented to the American people, that would help. Personally I think he should NOT be treated like a deserving candidate, period. Most people don’t want to hear him anymore. Just ignore him!

 

[Stunned]

I don’t disagree with Anderson Cooper often, but I do on this one. He defends CNN for giving DT a platform and says ignoring him won’t make him go away and that only listening to what you agree with isn’t good. I get what he saying, but giving DT a bunch of airtime and not ignoring him hasn’t exactly worked out well for us so far. He’s not a normal candidate who deserves equal airtime and who deserves an equal chance at the presidency. This is a man who organized a violent insurrection and tried to overturn an election. This is a convicted sexual predator who has done so much damage to this country that I don’t know if it will ever heal.
At this point he just needs to go away. For the benefit of ALL Americans. His own party would love nothing more than for him to go away, but he won’t, and they need that certain amount of people who just want the chaos and disruption that he promises, and the GOP needs them. So they’re stuck. If the press would at the very least only give him taped airtime so they could have time to fact-check all the lies as it’s presented to the American people, that would help. Personally I think he should NOT be treated like a deserving candidate, period. Most people don’t want to hear him anymore. Just ignore him!

Have the press TRIED ignoring him? That might be fun, maybe they should try it!